Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

Hulk Hands · 06-10-2016 02:41AM

Seriously, the type of the Keegan stuff is the reason the black card was brought in. Is this seriously being debated? Whatever your views on the black card itself, it was done to the letter of the rules at the time. The ref was actually lenient on a Keegan potential yellow earlier in the game leading credence to the belief that he would show he wasnt affected by the media attetion. Dubs got away with a blantant one earlier in the interest of fairness

seligehgit · 06-10-2016 07:13AM

11 All Star nominations for Mayo... All 6 defenders and David Clarke mentioned.

Lee Keegan is amongst the three nominations for POTY.

Diarmuid O Connor is amongst the three nominations for young POTY.

Congratulations to all the lads.

SeanJ09 · 06-10-2016 07:31AM

Aos nomitted on reputation alone. Bar the Tyrone game he was fairly in effective for large parts. Clarke, Harrison and Keegan should get their all Stars. I'd say Durcan and Boyle are in with a good shout too.

mass_debater · 06-10-2016 08:22AM

No mayo midfielders, I thought Parsons deserved a nomination

kilns · 06-10-2016 08:29AM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

This is what Parkinson said on the matter, a man who was pulled and dragged out of by many a defender in his time. Parkinson is a bit of a clown at times but he probably sums it up well here.

Diarmuid Connolly sewed him up, good and proper. Yes, Keegan pulled his jersey... Connolly went to ground and then made it look like he was pulled down. Connolly then started putting an imaginary black card in Deegan's face; completely out of order, you'd have to say.

"Yes, his jersey was pulled. Was it enough for him to be falling down? No. He threw himself to the ground and he sold Keegan up the river."

Parkinson disagreed with Conan Doherty's argument that Keegan had exerted enough pressure to bring the Dublin forward down. He continued:

"Connolly is six-foot-two, he's fourteen and a half stone. His jersey got barely pulled and he has gone onto the ground.

"It was a professional foul; it was a soccer-style 'I'm sewing my man up here' and he got Keegan sent off. And more power to him."

Anyway, what's done cannot be undone.

Quoting Parkinson when it comes to Dublin is not the most reliable. He is one of the biggest anti-Dubs out there

Call me Al · 06-10-2016 09:45AM

I'm disappointed not to see Donal Vaughan 's name in the list. I thought he was good enough to get a nomination at the very least.
He was such a loss when he was taken off on Sat.
Delighted for the backs and Clarke. They've been immense for the county and very worthy nominees.

km79 · 06-10-2016 09:54AM

Call me Al wrote: »

I'm disappointed not to see Donal Vaughan 's name in the list. I thought he was good enough to get a nomination at the very least.
He was such a loss when he was taken off on Sat.
Delighted for the backs and Clarke. They've been immense for the county and very worthy nominees.

I agree 100%
Donie was probably our most consistent player when he came back into the team

The Talking Bread · 06-10-2016 11:00AM

kilns wrote: »

The Talking Bread wrote: »

This is what Parkinson said on the matter, a man who was pulled and dragged out of by many a defender in his time. Parkinson is a bit of a clown at times but he probably sums it up well here.

Diarmuid Connolly sewed him up, good and proper. Yes, Keegan pulled his jersey... Connolly went to ground and then made it look like he was pulled down. Connolly then started putting an imaginary black card in Deegan's face; completely out of order, you'd have to say.

"Yes, his jersey was pulled. Was it enough for him to be falling down? No. He threw himself to the ground and he sold Keegan up the river."

Parkinson disagreed with Conan Doherty's argument that Keegan had exerted enough pressure to bring the Dublin forward down. He continued:

"Connolly is six-foot-two, he's fourteen and a half stone. His jersey got barely pulled and he has gone onto the ground.

"It was a professional foul; it was a soccer-style 'I'm sewing my man up here' and he got Keegan sent off. And more power to him."

Anyway, what's done cannot be undone.

Quoting Parkinson when it comes to Dublin is not the most reliable. He is one of the biggest anti-Dubs out there

So what. What he is saying is true. Quoting a Dub regarding Connolly. Now that's pointless.

jmayo · 06-10-2016 11:11AM

km79 wrote: »

I'm out
See ye in early spring
The rest of ye whenever mayo lose a game ........

PressRun wrote: »

You wouldn't hear a word out of these "people" if the change had worked and Mayo had won. People just want a scapegoat and they are the same people who have been waiting since last year to get a few things off their chest.

Yes some of us aren't posting in here every other week because we may usually post elsewhere.
If I posted the same amount in every forum I post in that would be my day gone.
There are lots of forums I dip in and out of and I might only post in them every few months or even less.
I might post a lot depending on an issue or thread in that forum and may not post again for months.

BTW those type of comments reek of look at me I am a true supporter so I am the only one allowed comment.

There are a lot that don't go to league matches, a lot that don't even go championship matches, a lot live through out the country and even throughout the world, but they are from Mayo and they probably buy their kids Mayo jerseys, Mayo sweat tops, etc.
How much money does that end up transferring back to the GAA/county board.
(I know the GAA get money for use of the GAA logo and if county has trademarked the crests they can then get money.)

Anyway every time someone goes into Elverys or Lifestyle in Castlebar or Ballina to buy themselves or their kids a jersey it helps keep those shops in profit.
And would you rather they bought them a fooking man utd top instead.

If it was down to the diehard fans who go to all the league game, etc how many would actually be in Croker ?
Should all the fans stay stum and never have an opinion ?

Anyway I stick by my opinion. I don't believe in having a go at players because of the effort they put in, but I will call a spade a spade when it comes to backroom staff.

BTW at this stage everyone in the country is nearly a Mayo fan.

Go into any pub anywhere in Ireland, bar Dublin, last Saturday and nearly everyone was shouting for Mayo.

Kalyke · 06-10-2016 11:36AM

"In case you can't make that out, the investment per player in Dublin is €274.70. The next nearest is €68.17, in Fermanagh. Third is Longford, at €62.30.

Beaten All-Ireland finalists Mayo have received €22.30. Kerry got €19 per player, while Donegal - the team Dublin beat in the quarter-final - pulled in €20.10 per player"
Article by Gavin Cooney. Figures given are per registered player in a given county. Anyone else want to argue its a level playing field?

km79 · 06-10-2016 11:41AM

jmayo wrote: »

Yes some of us aren't posting in here every other week because we may usually post elsewhere.
If I posted the same amount in every forum I post in that would be my day gone.
There are lots of forums I dip in and out of and I might only post in them every few months or even less.
I might post a lot depending on an issue or thread in that forum and may not post again for months.

BTW those type of comments reek of look at me I am a true supporter so I am the only one allowed comment.

There are a lot that don't go to league matches, a lot that don't even go championship matches, a lot live through out the country and even throughout the world, but they are from Mayo and they probably buy their kids Mayo jerseys, Mayo sweat tops, etc.
How much money does that end up transferring back to the GAA/county board.
(I know the GAA get money for use of the GAA logo and if county has trademarked the crests they can then get money.)

Anyway every time someone goes into Elverys or Lifestyle in Castlebar or Ballina to buy themselves or their kids a jersey it helps keep those shops in profit.
And would you rather they bought them a fooking man utd top instead.

If it was down to the diehard fans who go to all the league game, etc how many would actually be in Croker ?
Should all the fans stay stum and never have an opinion ?

Anyway I stick by my opinion. I don't believe in having a go at players because of the effort they put in, but I will call a spade a spade when it comes to backroom staff.

BTW at this stage everyone in the country is nearly a Mayo fan.
Go into any pub anywhere in Ireland, bar Dublin, last Saturday and nearly everyone was shouting for Mayo.

I was not referring to mayo supporters
I was referring to a select few from other counties that post more here than on their own forums and almost exclusively after a mayo defeat
Usually with "Rumours from the camp "

threein99 · 06-10-2016 11:46AM

kilns wrote: »

Quoting Parkinson when it comes to Dublin is not the most reliable. He is one of the biggest anti-Dubs out there

I think he calls it as it is.

MaroonAndGreen · 06-10-2016 12:15PM

Kalyke wrote: »

"In case you can't make that out, the investment per player in Dublin is €274.70. The next nearest is €68.17, in Fermanagh. Third is Longford, at €62.30.

Beaten All-Ireland finalists Mayo have received €22.30. Kerry got €19 per player, while Donegal - the team Dublin beat in the quarter-final - pulled in €20.10 per player"
Article by Gavin Cooney. Figures given are per registered player in a given county. Anyone else want to argue its a level playing field?

Add in the huge sponsorship money Dublin get too, they don't need all that funding. It's nothing short of a disgrace and really I don't see how it can be justified that Dublin receive about €250 more per registered player than Mayo or Kerry do.

jmayo · 06-10-2016 12:34PM

Kalyke wrote: »

"In case you can't make that out, the investment per player in Dublin is €274.70. The next nearest is €68.17, in Fermanagh. Third is Longford, at €62.30.

Beaten All-Ireland finalists Mayo have received €22.30. Kerry got €19 per player, while Donegal - the team Dublin beat in the quarter-final - pulled in €20.10 per player"
Article by Gavin Cooney. Figures given are per registered player in a given county. Anyone else want to argue its a level playing field?

I see you posted in the other thread in GAA forum dealing with breakdown of county support and has the map for similar.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct8TECwXEAAavJn.jpg:large

It is scary how much Dublin gets and how much the likes of Cork, with probably most clubs and huge amount of players, gets.
I know Dublin pay for their own coaches rather than getting province to do it, so not sure if that worked into it or not.
And then that highlights how many coaches they have in county which makes for scary reading as well.

Also very noticable in other thread how many dubs are trying to pick holes in the stats.
The best one was saying every county are equally as good since they can all only put 15 out on the pitch. :rolleyes:

kilns · 06-10-2016 12:37PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

kilns wrote: »

The Talking Bread wrote: »

This is what Parkinson said on the matter, a man who was pulled and dragged out of by many a defender in his time. Parkinson is a bit of a clown at times but he probably sums it up well here.

Diarmuid Connolly sewed him up, good and proper. Yes, Keegan pulled his jersey... Connolly went to ground and then made it look like he was pulled down. Connolly then started putting an imaginary black card in Deegan's face; completely out of order, you'd have to say.

"Yes, his jersey was pulled. Was it enough for him to be falling down? No. He threw himself to the ground and he sold Keegan up the river."

Parkinson disagreed with Conan Doherty's argument that Keegan had exerted enough pressure to bring the Dublin forward down. He continued:

"Connolly is six-foot-two, he's fourteen and a half stone. His jersey got barely pulled and he has gone onto the ground.

"It was a professional foul; it was a soccer-style 'I'm sewing my man up here' and he got Keegan sent off. And more power to him."

Anyway, what's done cannot be undone.

Quoting Parkinson when it comes to Dublin is not the most reliable. He is one of the biggest anti-Dubs out there

So what. What he is saying is true. Quoting a Dub regarding Connolly. Now that's pointless.

I am just pointing out he is known anti-Dub
If you paint Connolly with that brush then the OConnor brothers and Aidan OShea have to be held in the same light

The Talking Bread · 06-10-2016 01:58PM

kilns wrote: »

I am just pointing out he is known anti-Dub
If you paint Connolly with that brush then the OConnor brothers and Aidan OShea have to be held in the same light

I was speaking about this specific game changing incident! I didn't see any antics as serious as that out of the other 3 in the game but feel free to post them.

As I said the discussion was about this! No way to scientifically prove anything but he definitely wasn't going down without his own help.

kilns · 06-10-2016 02:05PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

kilns wrote: »

I am just pointing out he is known anti-Dub
If you paint Connolly with that brush then the OConnor brothers and Aidan OShea have to be held in the same light

I was speaking about this specific game changing incident! I didn't see any antics as serious as that out of the other 3 in the game but feel free to post them.

As I said the discussion was about this! No way to scientifically prove anything but he definitely wasn't going down without his own help.

If you watch that incident between COC and Small, he twice pulled Small back to the ground which he was trying to get up, yes perhaps Small was at fault to start. But It was smart by COC, he knew what he was doing keeping the wrestling match going, but his temper tantrum after was a bit embarrassing, so if its claimed Connolly dived, then COC can be accused of similar cynical behaviour

The Talking Bread · 06-10-2016 02:29PM

kilns wrote: »

If you watch that incident between COC and Small, he twice pulled Small back to the ground which he was trying to get up, yes perhaps Small was at fault to start. But It was smart by COC, he knew what he was doing keeping the wrestling match going, but his temper tantrum after was a bit embarrassing, so if its claimed Connolly dived, then COC can be accused of similar cynical behaviour

Fair enough. Different Incident. Thats how you saw it. Your perogative!
He was up on top of him in a Mayo counter attack, wouldnt release him, then after a bit of grasping he let himself up and, he swung his arm, making sure not to hit him though. Why in gods name would COC want to impede himself and have a wrestling match in the middle of the field when they were attacking. Its quiet clear he wanted to get him off him. What did you expect him to do! A man on top of him, lay there and bide his time!! And why wouldn't he be incensed with Small there. There was no ball, no nothing.

1.06.00 onwards.

Again we all see things completely different sometimes but............

Regarding the DC incident, it was a foul, but he played for it and then knowing he had got his free, tried to get the man sent off, knowing it wasnt a sending off offence.

Anyway, we are on a Mayo fans forum and any Dublin fan lurking about is merely just here to tell us we are wrong from what I see! so no point going around in circles here.

kilns · 06-10-2016 03:23PM

Because COC is a smart indivdual who tries to play on the officials at every oppotunity.
For a man trying to supposedly get up, putting your arm around your opponents neck is not the ideal way to get up is it?.....
Connolly played the ref and won, COC tried also and lost.

The Talking Bread · 06-10-2016 03:39PM

Ah stop! Sure maybe he should have asked Small to kindly get off him!! Anyway..............!

kilns · 06-10-2016 04:23PM

People see incidents from different perspectives, either with green and red tinted glasses or blue tinted glasses

seligehgit · 06-10-2016 05:55PM

Message from Lee Keegan on Twitter

Sadness and regret fill me.We have lost but I have the honour and privilege of running into battle with legends that I will respect for life.
Dublin GAA are a supreme outfit and deservedly All Ireland winners.The customary tweet or message is to say we will fight on and we will but it will be a tough couple of months soul searching.As always supporters made year by doing what you always do best.
Thanks for following and supporting us through everything.

What a legend of the green and red Lee Keegan is.

SeanJ09 · 06-10-2016 06:33PM

Lads, reckon there is any chance of some season tickets becoming available then?

seligehgit · 06-10-2016 06:41PM

SeanJ09 wrote: »

Lads, reckon there is any chance of some season tickets becoming available then?

A few might become available.. Keep an eye out on the Season Tickets 2017 thread.

Fr Tod Umptious · 06-10-2016 07:51PM

SeanJ09 wrote: »

Lads, reckon there is any chance of some season tickets becoming available then?

Some CM ones became available last year, but for less than a day if I recall.

mayo.mick · 06-10-2016 08:01PM

SeanJ09 wrote: »

Lads, reckon there is any chance of some season tickets becoming available then?

Not a chance with the Croke PArk ones I'd say, there's a 3 year waiting list for them! There maybe some Cairde, think some went on sale last year.

km79 · 06-10-2016 08:29PM

Just reading Ed mcgreals latest article
He says Rochfords 7 week old child is in the Chikdrens hospital in Cumlin
Perspective

TCDStudent1 · 06-10-2016 08:31PM

km79 wrote: »

Just reading Ed mcgreals latest article
He says Rochfords 7 week old child is in the Chikdrens hospital in Cumlin
Perspective

Do you have a link?

PressRun · 06-10-2016 08:32PM

km79 wrote: »

Just reading Ed mcgreals latest article
He says Rochfords 7 week old child is in the Chikdrens hospital in Cumlin
Perspective

Had heard this a while ago. I don't think the child has been well since being born. Might be the main obstacle to Rochford staying in the job.

km79 · 06-10-2016 08:33PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Do you have a link?

http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/28715-perspective-needed-in-mayo-debate

Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

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