Clare GAA discussion thread

Gael85 wrote: »

How many isolated players do Cratloe have this year? Is that Conor Cooney from O'Callaghan Mills playing with them?

He's living in Cratloe now.

Junior Football Semi Final draw

Naomh Eoin v KIB
Michael Cusacks v Meelick

Clareman wrote: »

I don't think anyone did as well as Kilmaley, pretty much any hurler west of Ennis had to play for them

Would Ballyea not have a lot more on their senior team from football clubs?

Henno30 wrote: »

Alan Browne was consistently the toughest challenge Lohan faced I think. Gave him a number of tough outings.

what games had you in mind ?
he caused him problems in 1995. other than that?

roashter wrote: »

T'was rare enough someone got the better of the red helmeted one.
The only one that really comes to mind for me was Webster from Tipp one year

Lohan getting patted on the head by Webster that day in Limerick, was the day we knew that Lohan's race was run.

funnyname wrote: »

Not quite as he had a great spell in the rest of the championship with Clare narrowly losing out to Cork in the All-Ireland semifinal. I think Gus wasn't too impressed with either of his sons' display that day in Limerick no doubt it played a part in their improvement.

Lohan was too long in the tooth to get risen by that.. he might have dealt with it later...

keeponhurling wrote: »

Lohan getting patted on the head by Webster that day in Limerick, was the day we knew that Lohan's race was run.

lohan wasn`t patted on the head.

fitzgerald was on the end of the head pat.

Kristopherus wrote: »

I see Dalo is putting a team together for his bid for the big job. How many nominations are in already?

Would be surprised if there were more than two.

Akrasia wrote: »

As long as Donal Moloney and Gerry O Connor are interested in the position, nobody else should really be considered. They've earned the right at this stage, and unless Brian Cody decided he wanted a change of scenery, there shouldn't really be much of an argument for anyone else.

Daly is a good manager but he's had his turn and it's time to quit looking back to the days of 1995 and forward to the next generation of Clare hurling

As is with all new managerial appointments the squad will be consulted so it will be interesting to see what option they would favour. Would the younger players edge towards Maloney and O Connor?

Akrasia wrote: »

As long as Donal Moloney and Gerry O Connor are interested in the position, nobody else should really be considered.

Huh?? with respect that's nonsense. Its a job vacancy, the more applicants surely the better chance of getting more quality candidates. They may get the job, and have a great underage CV, but there arent many successful examples of joint managers working out at senior level.

Kristopherus wrote: »

I see Dalo is putting a team together for his bid for the big job. How many nominations are in already?

Where did you see this?

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

There aren't many examples of it full stop. I'm genuinely wondering what more the pair of them have to do to get a shot at the senior job. All this talk about big name managers and backroom teams is bullsh1t in my eyes, there are only a handful of AI winning managers in the country and I don't think we should be crossing the county border for one. I know we are past that stage but the amount of names that were be suggested was ridiculous, I must be the only person in the county that would be disappointed if Liam Sheedy was in the running. Donal and Gerry have proven they know how to get the best out of this group of players already and in my mind they have earned the opportunity to show us if they can do the same at senior level. I'm sick to the teeth of reading the same crap about their lack of experience at senior level and about how senior is a totally different ball game. How will we ever know if they don't get the opportunity? I'd be really disappointed if the powers that be turned their backs on them at this stage after the graft they put in at underage. I have good time and the height of respect for Daly but I would be a lot happier if the duo got appointed.

Exactly.

Trying to over think it and play mind games and strategies is what cost us so much over the last 3 seasons. Fitzgerald couldn't have had a more highly experienced back room team and it made no difference because they were going in the wrong direction tactically and were unable to motivate the players to perform to their potential.

Moloney and O Connor have proven that they have what it takes to get the best out of this group of players. They have proven that they can bring a team together and get them to perform as one unit and they have proven that they're ambitious enough to believe that winning championships is our legitimate target, and we should not be satisfied with 'making progress'.

These guys took the players as they came through the best underage program in the country, and let them play to their strengths and it paid off. Then they went into a senior set up where the manager thought he knew best and tried to change the way they play. That understandably played havoc with their cohesion, their discipline, and their motivation.

We still have a really young team and their best is still ahead of them, but they need to be allowed to play hurling and compete for their place on the team by being the best players in their position, and not the best at following the latest hair brained system thought up by the manager and his team of 'experienced' advisors

I think there is a couple of things at play here, if it is a decision between Maloney/GOC and Daly.

For a start, we can't really speculate what way both managers' style of hurling they will want to play, as neither have managed this particulr team at senior level. While people are against Daly on the grounds of more defensive/sweeper style hurling, Maloney/O'Connor have always played a short passing style of hurling (especially from the backline), something that may not be popular with supporters either. It kind of works both ways because both managers have in the past employed whatever system they thought was best to get the most of their respective teams. Granted Maloney/GOC certainly got the best out of underage teams, but the reality is they have no intercounty experience and it's another thing trying to work 6 short little passes out of the backline against a physical Tipp/KK team working like dogs. Kinnerk is going to be a loss to their set up too.

Anyway that said, I would like to see what DM/GOC can bring to the table. They are excellent when it comes to preparing teams and getting the boys sharp for championship, something it must be said Davy and Daly have terrible, just downright awful records in when it comes to the first round of the Munster championship.