Clare GAA discussion thread

Gael85

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

there is'nt a bridge left in the county that he has'nt burnt, there is no way he will ever be taken back

reading some of the quotes since his departure , i know wexford are delighted to have him now , but it will be interesting what he will be saying down there in two or three years time

Wexford must have come in to a bit of money with appointing Seamus McEneaney as Wexford football manager. Fitzy and Banty wont come cheap. Unless Fitz adjust his tactics he will be wasting his time.

Kristopherus

Gael85 wrote: »

Wexford must have come in to a bit of money with appointing Seamus McEneaney as Wexford football manager. Fitzy and Banty wont come cheap. Unless Fitz adjust his tactics he will be wasting his time.

Exactly what I was thinking myself. Good luck to both of them. It will be some relief to watch Davy in full flight next year without feeling a tinge of embarrassment:).

Clareman

I've heard from a reliable source that Fitz won't be on as much in Wexford as he was in Clare but he has the potential for as much as the Wexford gig is performance related.

On that note, I heard that a couple of last years selectors are extremely annoyed since they heard how much some of hte team are getting compared to what they got.

windy shepard henderson

Gael85 wrote: »

Wexford must have come in to a bit of money with appointing Seamus McEneaney as Wexford football manager. Fitzy and Banty wont come cheap. Unless Fitz adjust his tactics he will be wasting his time.

to be fair to wexford they never seemed to be too careless in the past with finances , they have gone for two lunatics here that have a common love for money

both are good appointments in the short term , but it will turn into a soap opera in the next two or three years down there and most likely a costly one

windy shepard henderson

Clareman wrote: »

I've heard from a reliable source that Fitz won't be on as much in Wexford as he was in Clare but he has the potential for as much as the Wexford gig is performance related.

On that note, I heard that a couple of last years selectors are extremely annoyed since they heard how much some of hte team are getting compared to what they got.

money will be made available in time dont worry , i mean rory hicky and his hurling counterpart mcgahn have done there bit with two more county finals in the next two weeks , and of course the tannoy system will call out an attendance of 3500 for each game in a standing room only cusack park over the next two sundays

dont worry if the lads request finances they will get it but i doubt they have asked for much in the way of expenses plus i doubt there will be too many trips to Portugal any time soon

Clareman

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

money will be made available in time dont worry , i mean rory hicky and his hurling counterpart mcgahn have done there bit with two more county finals in the next two weeks , and of course the tannoy system will call out an attendance of 3500 for each game in a standing room only cusack park over the next two sundays

dont worry if the lads request finances they will get it but i doubt they have asked for much in the way of expenses plus i doubt there will be too many trips to Portugal any time soon

37 of a backroom, trains & 2 buses to matches, trips to America, video analysis & stats that no other team in Ireland have not to mention the money spent on the senior dressing & play room in Tulla

windy shepard henderson

Clareman wrote: »

37 of a backroom, trains & 2 buses to matches, trips to America, video analysis & stats that no other team in Ireland have not to mention the money spent on the senior dressing & play room in Tulla

i am not too up to date with the ins and outs of the finances in clare gaa but there had to be a financial outsider funding the fitz era , its probably safe to say that the same fundraiser will not be around to fund gerry and donal :pac:

to be fair to the board the last 4 years have been quiet impressive from our own standards in terms of success , everything has improved from ladies fooball , camogie senior football and football and hurling development , the reason for the sucess is because they stayed out of he way and let what ever managers and coaches off to do there own thing ,

it really only was in the hurling ranks that they didnt act on several mishaps, yes we won an all ireland and a league , but lets face it the donkey work was done by the current management and not fitz

i personally believe the whole nonsense that went on with the likes of "taking out" the internet warriors, attacking journos in the tunnel at half time or the 37 entourag back room staff ,or player discrimination is now wexfords problem , just like passing over a monkeys paw to the model county i actually see a bright future for clare gaa regardless of who is in charge of the finances

windy shepard henderson

county final day for the 3rd week in a row as the first of the replays take place today , any anoraks on here that could tell me has it happened before where both football and hurling finals went to replays in the same year ?

whoever wins will face dr crokes next sunday at a clare venue lets hope it wont clash with the hurling final and the clare county board see sense , it should be a cracker as there was only one point between either side against crokes the last time they met in munster (kib 2012 , cratloe 2013)

today though will be close again , to be fair to kilmurry they were slightly the better team the last day and kealan sexton will be the man to stop again today as he was excellent the last day out, conor mcgraths absence is huge for cratloe and given the amount of wides they kicked the last day it could rove to be a tough ask for the south clare men today

going to stick the head on the block and predict that dr crokes trip will be to quilty next weekend , but it will be close again today

Gael85

Well done to Meelick on winning the Junior championship.

windy shepard henderson

Gael85 wrote: »

Well done to Meelick on winning the Junior championship.

great achievement for such a small place and especially the hartnet clan who have done so much for clare football over the last few years

windy shepard henderson

impressive win in the end for KIB , brought back a number of the old gaurd this year and still look like they mean business , they should go very close against dr crokes in quilty next sunday they probably feel they owe them one now at this stage , with a new team in carbury rangers in cork and loughmore/castleeiny beating clonmel this evening in the tipp championship the munster club championship looks fairly open , if kilmurry dont over do the celebrations tonight and the likes of the hickeys ,the o'dwyers and the likes of kealan sexton repeat there performances next sunday they will be there abouts

lets hope the county board see sense in regards times and venues and not clash the county hurling final replay with the munster club championship game , maybe a 1pm throw in for the football in quilty and a 3:30 throw in time in ennis and not clash the two games especially with the extra interest this year in the hurling final in west clare withthe number of parishs sending players to balllyea for hurling

again though today another false attendance was announced , the 3500 was much closer to 5500 or 6000 .......or maybe that's just me , at the same time i wouldnt fancy being in the place on the day they announce a full house of 20000 judging by there counting methods :rolleyes:

buck65

KIds are free and would make up a large part of the attendance?

Clareman

buck65 wrote: »

KIds are free and would make up a large part of the attendance?

I don't think there was 1 child there for every adult though, or anything near it, something has to pay for everything.

jackwigan

Why do Clare still have one of the worst websites on the internet?

Boots234

jackwigan wrote: »

Why do Clare still have one of the worst websites on the internet?

It's an embarrassment when you compare it to other websites such as Cork/Kerry/Tipperary Gaa

crazyguy01

Maybe I missed it, but when exactly is the county final replay on?

Keano

crazyguy01 wrote: »

Maybe I missed it, but when exactly is the county final replay on?

Sunday

Reputable Rog

jackwigan wrote: »

Why do Clare still have one of the worst websites on the internet?

They had the worst Aertel page on time, keeping up the tradition I guess.

Tell me how

Some replay today.

Delighted for Ballyea.

windy shepard henderson

Tell me how wrote: »

Some replay today.

Delighted for Ballyea.

great win , probably an advertisement for the isolated player , but that cant be a bad thing either for clare hurling if it attracts more players from west clare into the game at the highest level , although i doubt a number of smaller clubs in east clare would agree?

great though to see tony kelly win a county title , i genuinely didnt think they would make the breakthrough , also think its time we see niall deasy called up to the clare senior panel again , he has had an excellent year and on his day is a fantastic ball winner something our half forward line needs next year,
after flanagan, gudgie and browne , there probably is'nt anyone else on the side that could offer something to the clare set up on a consistent basis anyway

totts notched up another 0-8 points yesterday for clon , he is a fantastic player and deserves far more interconty game time then he gets ,but for them in general , they need a manager that can make the huge calls i think they are still picking one or two players on reputation rather then performance , they have some excellent young lads on the bench that deserve more of a look in too, and at this stage its long over due that they win another county , there age profile would sugust they will be back again shortly...

ballyea are something like the 13th team to win a club championship in the last 16 or 17 years which shows the competitive nature of the clare championship and while there has been huge celebrations in ballyea and a number of Parish's in west clare over the last two nights , it will probably come to a hault next weekend against thurles sarsfields , its going to be very hard for them to come back down to earth in such a short space of time

Figerty

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

great win , probably an advertisement for the isolated player , but that cant be a bad thing either for clare hurling if it attracts more players from west clare into the game at the highest level , although i doubt a number of smaller clubs in east clare would agree?

great though to see tony kelly win a county title , i genuinely didnt think they would make the breakthrough , also think its time we see niall deasy called up to the clare senior panel again , he has had an excellent year and on his day is a fantastic ball winner something our half forward line needs next year,
after flanagan, gudgie and browne , there probably is'nt anyone else on the side that could offer something to the clare set up on a consistent basis anyway

totts notched up another 0-8 points yesterday for clon , he is a fantastic player and deserves far more interconty game time then he gets ,but for them in general , they need a manager that can make the huge calls i think they are still picking one or two players on reputation rather then performance , they have some excellent young lads on the bench that deserve more of a look in too, and at this stage its long over due that they win another county , there age profile would sugust they will be back again shortly...

ballyea are something like the 13th team to win a club championship in the last 16 or 17 years which shows the competitive nature of the clare championship and while there has been huge celebrations in ballyea and a number of Parish's in west clare over the last two nights , it will probably come to a hault next weekend against thurles sarsfields , its going to be very hard for them to come back down to earth in such a short space of time

Indeed a great win. On paper Clonlara should have the better team; they didn't so full credit to Ballyea. Clarecastle have been the big looser in Ballyea's success.
Thurles Sarsfields have the potential to destroy teams, yet against BallyGunner they could have been caught. Thy should take Ballyea with ease if they play well; Don't think Ballyea come down of that high in a week. I hope they do though and give it a good shot.

Stationmaster

How do you figure Clarecastle have been the big loosers??

Figerty

Stationmaster wrote: »

How do you figure Clarecastle have been the big loosers??

In the past Clarecastle used to pick up some of the best hurlers from Ballyea.

The Parish of Ballyea and Clarecastle means there is mobility within the parish. Two clubs in the one parish means they could legitimately choose to hurl with either. The Sheedy's were the best example. Two savage hurlers that were a rock for Clarecastle and could have played for Ballyea.

It's unlikely Clarecastle will recruit from Ballyea now. Clarecastle aren't the force they were once.. doesn't mean that they can't be again, but they won't get the likes of Tony Kelly etc. from Ballyea.

Clareman

I think this year's championship showed the value of the isolated player rules, in the past all the players out west would play for Kilmaley now some played for Ballyea, Ballyea are champions and Kilmaley were regulated (very simplistic view I know)

Figerty

Clareman wrote: »

I think this year's championship showed the value of the isolated player rules, in the past all the players out west would play for Kilmaley now some played for Ballyea, Ballyea are champions and Kilmaley were regulated (very simplistic view I know)

Bit simplistic alright. Kilmaley were beaten by 1 point by Clonlara, a few points by the bridge and lost a relegation battle after a replay. The current system can do that to a team very easily. The way the draw falls can put weak teams on one side and strong on another. No problem with that as there four games.
When Kilmaley won the last championship, there were two isolated players involved. Colin Lynch and Conor Sexton.
If you take apart the Ballyea team count only Ballyea/Clondegad contingent then how many isolated players are there involved. Each of them has been developed from an early age. There is usually a gripe in east Clare when this is raised.

Clareman

Figerty wrote: »

Bit simplistic alright. Kilmaley were beaten by 1 point by Clonlara, a few points by the bridge and lost a relegation battle after a replay. The current system can do that to a team very easily. The way the draw falls can put weak teams on one side and strong on another. No problem with that as there four games.
When Kilmaley won the last championship, there were two isolated players involved. Colin Lynch and Conor Sexton.
If you take apart the Ballyea team count only Ballyea/Clondegad contingent then how many isolated players are there involved. Each of them has been developed from an early age. There is usually a gripe in east Clare when this is raised.

Would Colin Lynch be considered an isolated player considering the relationship between Kilmaley and Lissycasey? Kilmaley had a shocking run this year, considering they contested the play offs every year in the 00s and had 4 Clare players to being relegated with 1 county player it's some fall.

Off the top of my head Ballyea's captain and goal scorer from the first game are from Kilmihil.

Figerty

Clareman wrote: »

Would Colin Lynch be considered an isolated player considering the relationship between Kilmaley and Lissycasey? Kilmaley had a shocking run this year, considering they contested the play offs every year in the 00s and had 4 Clare players to being relegated with 1 county player it's some fall.

Off the top of my head Ballyea's captain and goal scorer from the first game are from Kilmihil.

Indeed there is truth in that. Got to the county semi-final last year. Match against Clonlara was probably the hurling game of the year.
But 3 minor Championships recently, great underage success and an u21 Champ. says the team is young rather that old.
Other teams are getting older rather than younger.

roashter

Clareman wrote: »

Would Colin Lynch be considered an isolated player considering the relationship between Kilmaley and Lissycasey? Kilmaley had a shocking run this year, considering they contested the play offs every year in the 00s and had 4 Clare players to being relegated with 1 county player it's some fall.

Off the top of my head Ballyea's captain and goal scorer from the first game are from Kilmihil.

I think Colin Lynch played with Ballyea, then Eire Og before he played with Kilmaley.
Cathal Doohan who played wing forward played for Ballyea on both final days is also from Lissycasey.

Clareman

roashter wrote: »

I think Colin Lynch played with Ballyea, then Eire Og before he played with Kilmaley.
Cathal Doohan who played wing forward played for Ballyea on both final days is also from Lissycasey.

I think he played for Ballyea up until under 16 then played for Eire Og, he was on the 25 year team last year, he'll be on it again in 13 years. Actually, I wonder if that's a record between first and second county championship medals (14 years)

Clareman

Figerty wrote: »

Indeed there is truth in that. Got to the county semi-final last year. Match against Clonlara was probably the hurling game of the year.
But 3 minor Championships recently, great underage success and an u21 Champ. says the team is young rather that old.
Other teams are getting older rather than younger.

Good team coming through but rumours say they are having a lot of internal politics, last year's manager got in by 1 vote and next year's manager has been appointed by the players