Werewolf II - The revenge! Complete - Wolves win

Jayop · 08-09-2016 3:59pm

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Unfortunately no, this doesn't help. I'm still confused as hell. I'm not sure this powerplay thing is a great idea for the game. We're all confused enough as it is!

If the wolves call the power play at say 5pm then any votes cast on thread between 4pm and 6pm will count as double but we won't know this until after the lynch.

Now, any vote changed after 6pm that had been a powerplay vote will go back to being a single vote.

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:01pm

Jayop wrote: »

If the wolves call the power play at say 5pm then any votes cast on thread between 4pm and 6pm will count as double but we won't know this until after the lynch.

Now, any vote changed after 6pm that had been a powerplay vote will go back to being a single vote.

So to further this, say we kill me tonight, then tomorrow it's 5 vs 3. If the wolves can time all their votes within a 2 hour period without arousing suspicion in the thread then they will have a bloc of 6 votes. Providing the villagers don't all vote only within that time period then the wolves have a massive advantage.

08-09-2016 4:03pm

If we all vote Nopeare we are grand today

Id also like to point out Jayo is trying to arouse suspicion of me and tritium and now 2 low posters he is doing everything he can to muddy the waters and while lookiing helpfull over the obvious plays isnt being

He also has pretended to not know votes at 10:00 wouldnt count and that the Vig couldnt shoot if killed by wolves but really he did know these things

Mollyb60 · 08-09-2016 4:07pm

So the pp is (for example) from 4pm to 6pm.
I vote for billy at 3pm
I vote for tommy at 5pm
I change back to billy at 7pm

Thats 2 votes for tommy from me and 1 vote for billy. I feel like Jessica Simpson with her tuna/chicken thing right now ffs.

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:11pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If we all vote Nopeare we are grand today

Id also like to point out Jayo is trying to arouse suspicion of me and tritium and now 2 low posters he is doing everything he can to muddy the waters and while lookiing helpfull over the obvious plays isnt being

He also has pretended to not know votes at 10:00 wouldnt count and that the Vig couldnt shoot if killed by wolves but really he did know these things

No, I'm not trying to arouse suspicion of the two low posters. I'm pointing out that they essentially can't be lynched and the wolves won't kill them because in an ideal wolf world you're left with 2 disinterested low posters in the last turn. I'm pointing out that if they are wolves then I'll be very pissed off with them.

As for you and Trit, why wouldn't I be worried about you. I've not once pushed for a single vote for either of you but I'm not going to make some stupid assumption that you're an innocent either.

Mollyb60 wrote: »

So the pp is (for example) from 4pm to 6pm.
I vote for billy at 3pm
I vote for tommy at 5pm
I change back to billy at 7pm

Thats 2 votes for tommy from me and 1 vote for billy. I feel like Jessica Simpson with her tuna/chicken thing right now ffs.

No, in those circumstances only your final vote will count and because it's outside the PP duration it will only count as 1 vote.

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:12pm

As for your last line there Mick, that's an outright lie you've repeated over and over. Of course I know that my vote was late, I said numerous times that I tried to get it in on time and was annoyed it was late.

Why are you lying about that?

08-09-2016 4:15pm

Jayop wrote: »

As for your last line there Mick, that's an outright lie you've repeated over and over. Of course I know that my vote was late, I said numerous times that I tried to get it in on time and was annoyed it was late.

Why are you lying about that?

Im not lying buddy it is the truth your just not saying it now

Also the vig role? you didnt know about that :P

Mollyb60 · 08-09-2016 4:17pm

Are we all agreed then that were voting for nopeare?

y0ssar1an22 · 08-09-2016 4:18pm

vote nopeare

tritium · 08-09-2016 4:20pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If we all vote Nopeare we are grand today

Id also like to point out Jayo is trying to arouse suspicion of me and tritium and now 2 low posters he is doing everything he can to muddy the waters and while lookiing helpfull over the obvious plays isnt being

He also has pretended to not know votes at 10:00 wouldnt count and that the Vig couldnt shoot if killed by wolves but really he did know these things

This is why i told jayop to shut up earlier

Shut up jayop

Hes a head melter
And a good player

Lets just swing him tonight. Nopeare is comfy in that cell and can wait a night

Mollyb60 · 08-09-2016 4:22pm

Whether hes a melter or not Trit, his logic about the pp and voting is right (as I understand it).

08-09-2016 4:22pm

tritium wrote: »

This is why i told jayop to shut up earlier

Shut up jayop

Hes a head melter
And a good player

Lets just swing him tonight. Nopeare is comfy in that cell and can wait a night

We have to go Nopeare tonight its the only way wolves cant use powerplay as it would out them all

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Im not lying buddy it is the truth your just not saying it now

Also the vig role? you didnt know about that :P

I thought Trit was the Vig, i only realised this morning what he was doing by roleclaiming it. Here's all the posts I've made about it, not a single one suggests that I thought that a vote at 10 would count, infact I've said numerous times, mostly in direct reply to you that I acknowledge the vote was too late.

Again, why are you lying??

Jayop wrote: »

I was refreshing like fk in the hope someone would be awake and paying attention. it was pretty clear with 2 minutes to got that if the Alpha hadn't voted for me then the result was screwed either way. Late bandwagons like that are a vital part of the game.

Look, I accept I'm a goner tomorrow but I assure you it's because of nothing more than a villager being railroaded (partly my own fault) against two other villagers. I even said numerous times both nights I wasn't fully convinced Barney or Sully were wolves.

Sickened.com

Jayop wrote: »

I tried. The second I seen the vote by the Alpha and knew I could make it a tie I did so.

If anyone was watching the thread they can confirm that the two posts will have had seconds between them.

Jayop wrote: »

Surely one of you were watching the thread and confirm that my post came seconds after Nopears??

Jayop wrote: »

I tried to make it all square when I realized late that nopeer wasn't going to vote me so Sully was innocent. Had anyone been paying attention it would have worked.

I also offered to be killed last night by the vig but they choose not to try that for their own reasons.

I wasn't the cheerleader for people being killed. I was up against two villagers and defended myself, perhaps you could blame me for Barney but not Sully.

Look, whatever way you look at it you have to understand that killing me makes no sense tonight even if you're 90% sure I'm a wolf. Killing nopeer tonight is the only play because it'll either be a bandwagon on me or him so nothing will be learned either way.

Jayop wrote: »

Like I've said countless times now, I grew increasingly worried about Sully being innocent as you can see from the posts below all just before the lynch.

The post below was 6 minutes before the lynch and there was not a single reply from anyone here to it.

About 2/3 minutes before the lynch with this one. Plenty of time to rally ut still nothing from anyone

Then After waiting for Nopeer to vote I instantly changed my vote to Daz knowing if it was on time it would have been a tie. Had I voted any earlier for Daz alone then Nopeer would have voted for me, killing me and making the innocent Sully look guilty as feck.

So essentially no matter what I did last night I was screwed because I got no help or replies in the thread in the vital few minutes before 10 O clock.

Just for a second presume I'm a villager. Had I changed my vote before Nopeer voted then he would have voted for me, I'd have died and Sully would be in the position I'm in now. I had to wait for Nopeer to vote to see what I could do unless others helped out.

Jayop wrote: »

As for your last line there Mick, that's an outright lie you've repeated over and over. Of course I know that my vote was late, I said numerous times that I tried to get it in on time and was annoyed it was late.

Why are you lying about that?

tritium · 08-09-2016 4:24pm

tritium wrote: »

This is why i told jayop to shut up earlier

Shut up jayop

Hes a head melter
And a good player

Lets just swing him tonight. Nopeare is comfy in that cell and can wait a night

Look, vased on gms post.

Wwgm can you confirm; in a game you only ever have one vote. With pp that may count as +2 not +1

If so if we villagers vote together we cant be outvoted. Im suggesting jayop because hes dangerous to have around

Any objections?

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:26pm

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Whether hes a melter or not Trit, his logic about the pp and voting is right (as I understand it).

Like I said, even if you are pretty sure I'm a wolf taking out a 100% wolf is the only option tonight because if you're wrong about me then the wolves can win with a lynch PP tomorrow.

It's imperative we get this down to 5 v 2 tomorrow and the village will still have the numbers to survive a powerplay.

08-09-2016 4:26pm

Jayo im not disputing what you said, just that you knew what you were at

tritium · 08-09-2016 4:26pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We have to go Nopeare tonight its the only way wolves cant use powerplay as it would out them all

No we outvote them anyway with the clarification ( and even if not the system i posted means they wont win)

Ill go wuth the team but jayp here is dangerous

If wwgm could clarify one point- if wws use pp is their max possible sxore 6 or 9

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:27pm

tritium wrote: »

Look, vased on gms post.

Wwgm can you confirm; in a game you only ever have one vote. With pp that may count as +2 not +1

If so if we villagers vote together we cant be outvoted. Im suggesting jayop because hes dangerous to have around

Any objections?

Yes because if you're wrong about me (you are) then they will hold off the PP till tomorrow, still have 3 votes which count as 6 in the PP and they can steamroll the village thus losing the game.

Anything other than a 100% wolf kill tonight and we're fecked.

08-09-2016 4:29pm

Jayop wrote: »

As for your last line there Mick, that's an outright lie you've repeated over and over. Of course I know that my vote was late, I said numerous times that I tried to get it in on time and was annoyed it was late.

Why are you lying about that?

The way I see it, we get rid of Nopeare tonight reducing the wolves to two, then Jayop tomorrow. Reduces the effect of the powerplay.

08-09-2016 4:29pm

Why is no one putting up any suspects either as a village we are meant to be wolf hunting

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:30pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Jayo im not disputing what you said, just that you knew what you were at

Not sure how you can continue to ignore the logic of what I said. Had I changed to Daz before NoPeer voted then he would have voted for me and made Sully look like the wolf. You would have lynchedher tonight and we would be in the same boat tomorrow with 3 wolves Vs 5 villagers.

tritium wrote: »

No we outvote them anyway with the clarification ( and even if not the system i posted means they wont win)

Ill go wuth the team but jayp here is dangerous

If wwgm could clarify one point- if wws use pp is their max possible sxore 6 or 9

But I'm not a wolf, if you can consider there's even a 10% chance you're wrong about me then voting for Nopeer is the only option.

That you're not willing to acknowledge that worries immensely.

tritium · 08-09-2016 4:31pm

Jayop wrote: »

Yes because if you're wrong about me (you are) then they will hold off the PP till tomorrow, still have 3 votes which count as 6 in the PP and they can steamroll the village thus losing the game.

Anything other than a 100% wolf kill tonight and we're fecked.

In the parallele universe where youre not a wolf we play a version of the system i described .it will give us 7 played properly and with a bit of care

08-09-2016 4:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Why is no one putting up any suspects either as a village we are meant to be wolf hunting

I think the two wolves are Jayop and Nopeare. I have no idea who the assassin is

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The way I see it, we get rid of Nopeare tonight reducing the wolves to two, then Jayop tomorrow. Reduces the effect of the powerplay.

Well that's correct to a point.

Kill Nopeer tonight, if we all agree then a PP won't be used. That'll leave us 6v2 tomorrow.

If tomorrow you all bandwagon on me and kill me they won't use a PP then either because they won't have to and that will leave it 4v2 on Saturday.

I'm going to assume they will leave the two non active players alive so the PP will have a great chance of success then and the wolves will still win the game.

That said, at least by lynching Nopeer tonight you will keep the game going till at least Saturday.

tritium · 08-09-2016 4:33pm

Ok ****s sake .

Who are we voting for

Nopee or headwreck

Someone else can gag headwreck if its nopee

Jayop · 08-09-2016 4:34pm

tritium wrote: »

Ok ****s sake .

Who are we voting for

Nopee or headwreck

Someone else can gag headwreck if its nopee

If being the only person actually trying to use indisputable logic to save the village is headwrecking them this probably isn't the game for you. :rolleyes:

tritium · 08-09-2016 4:35pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why is no one putting up any suspects either as a village we are meant to be wolf hunting

Since im one of the two most likely deaths later ill post a theory for discussion after the lynch. Prob be after 11 due to rl

08-09-2016 4:35pm

we still have the GA not sure how they survived this long but Im working on a plan form him

Mollyb60 · 08-09-2016 4:35pm

I vote we go for nopeare. Its less risky.

Werewolf II - The revenge! Complete - Wolves win

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