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Electric Picnic 2016 // **Discussion Only / NO Ticket Sales / Requests** //

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭snowbabe


    Anybody still in red car park ? Daughters car won't start just need jump leads please??sorry green car park !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    The Nal wrote: »
    Very clever......

    Nah, not really.

    I actually like the Pistols and Johnny Rotten. He's an interesting character when he's not trying to live up to his persona. But the Pistols were a manufactured band and unfortunately he had his personality created for him and he never really broke free of it. I like to think that the Johnny you hear with PiL it the real person. He certainly sounds happier on record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    The Nal wrote: »
    Very clever......

    Nah, not really.

    I actually like the Pistols and Johnny Rotten. He's an interesting character when he's not trying to live up to his persona. But the Pistols were a manufactured band and unfortunately he had his personality created for him and he never really broke free of it. I like to think that the Johnny you hear with PiL it the real person. He certainly sounds happier on record.

    Yeah love PiL. Don't think the Pistols were as manufactured as people think but I take your point.

    Either way, no excuse for chucking 1L glass bottles at him! Think that could've been the last time I was at The Picnic. No desire to go back either going by recent lineups.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    Nah, not really.

    I actually like the Pistols and Johnny Rotten. He's an interesting character when he's not trying to live up to his persona. But the Pistols were a manufactured band and unfortunately he had his personality created for him and he never really broke free of it. I like to think that the Johnny you hear with PiL it the real person. He certainly sounds happier on record.

    A bit of incidental trivia on the subject for anyone that's interested...

    Just after The Sex Pistols blew up Rotten was asked to guest present a special on a London radio station (can't remember which one). When he turned up he played loads of lover's rock reggae, dub, and various other bits and pieces that showed the depth of his musical taste and a sensitive side to his character. But the Pistols manager, Malcolm McLaren, went ape over it and tried (or perhaps he succeeded) to have the show pulled before it went out. It just didn't gel with the Pistols image and the personality that he was creating for John Lydon. Very sad and an ironic, ugly little anecdote regarding a genre that was meant to be the very antithesis of that type of myth making.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    The Nal wrote: »
    Yeah love PiL. Don't think the Pistols were as manufactured as people think but I take your point.

    Either way, no excuse for chucking 1L glass bottles at him! Think that could've been the last time I was at The Picnic. No desire to go back either going by recent lineups.

    Absolutely. Disgraceful behaviour.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    The Nal wrote: »
    Don't think the Pistols were as manufactured as people think but I take your point.

    Ah yeah, there's certainly enough anecdotes and information to tell two different types of stories.

    But I've a penchant for tragedy and I love the idea of Lydon, the gutter artist, being stifled by Mclaren, the ruthless money-driven overlord. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    Pickpocket wrote: »
    Nah, not really.

    I actually like the Pistols and Johnny Rotten. He's an interesting character when he's not trying to live up to his persona. But the Pistols were a manufactured band and unfortunately he had his personality created for him and he never really broke free of it. I like to think that the Johnny you hear with PiL it the real person. He certainly sounds happier on record.

    A bit of incidental trivia on the subject for anyone that's interested...

    Just after The Sex Pistols blew up Rotten was asked to guest present a special on a London radio station (can't remember which one). When he turned up he played loads of lover's rock reggae, dub, and various other bits and pieces that showed the depth of his musical taste and a sensitive side to his character. But the Pistols manager, Malcolm McLaren, went ape over it and tried (or perhaps he succeeded) to have the show pulled before it went out. It just didn't gel with the Pistols image and the personality that he was creating for John Lydon. Very sad and an ironic, ugly little anecdote regarding a genre that was meant to be the very antithesis of that type of myth making.

    Suppose punk was a very very short lived thing that served a purpose at the time. Their album is the story of punk in a way. They were a parody once Sid joined. They only have 12 tunes!
    Pickpocket wrote: »
    The Nal wrote: »
    Yeah love PiL. Don't think the Pistols were as manufactured as people think but I take your point.

    Either way, no excuse for chucking 1L glass bottles at him! Think that could've been the last time I was at The Picnic. No desire to go back either going by recent lineups.

    Absolutely. Disgraceful behaviour.

    Not even sure I saw that during some of the bad times at Oxegen.

    As for "we need another Oxegen" - we don't. Not ever.
    Pickpocket wrote: »
    The Nal wrote: »
    Don't think the Pistols were as manufactured as people think but I take your point.

    Ah yeah, there's certainly enough anecdotes and information to tell two different types of stories.

    But I've a penchant for tragedy and I love the idea of Lydon, the gutter artist, being stifled by Mclaren, the ruthless money-driven overlord. :)

    haha yeah. A good thing though. Pistols were spent and it meant we got Metal Box so all good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    Found it really funny last night that a bunch of utter knuckle draggers beered out of their tiny little minds were repeating a chant of "waaaaan maaare choooon" over and over again at the tops of their voices
    Lemsiper wrote: »
    What accent is bold in? I'm not familiar with it.

    Sandymount.

    That fresh sea air is torture on the larynx.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    when they stopped roaring, i would have thought cork but there you go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Sounds more like someone from Louth. Or Navan.

    Animals.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    The Nal wrote: »
    They only have 12 tunes!

    That's still quite difficult to get the head around. What a legacy from a dozen tracks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Just in portlaoise itself waiting on a lift back to reality haha...odd wkend. Mixed bag. Veteran of ep and yes as people have been saying there's def a shift in the crowd over the last few years but I wonder (sleep deprived and hungover so be kind) did the lana del Ray addition to the line up inevitably mean there's gonna be loads more of her demographic of fans at stradbally this year. Under 21s seemed to make up a bigger part of the crowd. I'll do a full review later on this evening but just some thoughts for now

    First thing I think the crowds levels were too much for the site this became more apparent with the crap weather last night. Few more bits of wood chippings wouldn't have gone amiss as the wkend went on.

    I agree with the poster complaining about the security. Most of them were unhelpful and or ignorant of directions.

    I got pulled up by one of them late on the sat night around 3 am maybe as I was entering the Hendrix site-apparently 5 mins earlier there'd been a of a fight along there and they scarpered when security got over to them. So he seemed to think I was one of the trouble makers even tho I told him about 10 times I was literally just after arriving back to the camp site having had a most pleasant time chilling in body and soul. The security seemed abosutly stressed to the max, shouting in people's faces to move off, losing control of the situaion type of vibe. Pulling and pushing ppl. All abide much. Sense of anarchy almost.

    Anyway a buddy of mine who was with me and a gang in body and soul followed over and vouched for me, they had the wrong "guy in the baseball hat" as they told me the description was wtf?!didnt need my body and soul buzz wrecked but there ya go.

    Didn't need that kind of stress really on my sat night buzz at the picnic it was all ott but anyway that's just a small example of how the atmosphere has changed from the picnics of yore.

    Also there was a def dofdgy element around by the very far end of the area designated for the main stage audience(hope that makes sense) heard of a girl pick pocketed when a crowd of them surrounded her, another lad was hit for no good reason, sh1t happens I guess but still ep should be about having a good aul time not the other stuff

    Music highlights loved lcd , glass animals were a revelation, the accordion guy in body and soul, I think , wow, new order were very good, didn't watch lana. The rain def makes or breaks it, we just were on the short straw this weekend I think.

    Agree for sure the choice of food offering was less this year. Prices for food and drink mental but that's always the way.

    Would I go back-depends hugely on the line up. Friends said to me they wouldn't come back but roll around Feb March time and they prob will ! Friday evening getting the first can open after the tent up, hard to beat that feeling with the full wkend ahead of ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    That's still quite difficult to get the head around. What a legacy from a dozen tracks.

    Right place, right time culturally?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Friday evening getting the first can open after the tent up, hard to beat that feeling with the full wkend ahead of ya.

    Get to Glastonbury. Those cans are opened on a Wednesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    The Nal wrote: »
    Sounds more like someone from Louth. Or Navan.

    Animals.

    Was thinking Atie laaaad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,918 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    People giving out about people bringing kids - leave it out. Electric Picnic has always been a festival designed to be family friendly (hence the free entry for U-12s) and indeed, when I first started going in 2005, it was one of the biggest things that appealed to me about the festival - it was relaxed, friendly, and artistic enough to be a great place to bring some kids. Maybe you think kids only listen to ****ty pop music, or like to watch iPad cartoons? Well, good luck raising yours then, but that's not the way everyone wants to do it. Me and my wife brought our 10 week old, and he loved it - he was more relaxed than he ever has been at home, and the amount of new sights and sounds he had to experience will help his development greatly. He really enjoyed the campervan experience too! We brought little baby ear protectors to keep his hearing safe, and he was in a baby carrier which let him sleep all he wanted (and he did plenty even in the main arena) - when you have kids you'll understand that they'll sleep anywhere they want to, those little toddlers sleeping in the pull along carts are just as happy as if they were in a real bed. In short, some parents want their children to have broad horizons and EP in the past has been a perfect place to show them that. Seeing a few people mashed off their donkeys on whiz-whaps isn't going to break their brains, they'll ask you whats going on, and you'll explain, and maybe when they get a bit older, they'll not think of drugs as some rebellious act of teenagehood.

    In short - the day EP becomes too unfriendly to bring kids along is the day that it has changed far too much for the worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    Right place, right time culturally?

    Yeah, possibly. The usual story is that prog rock had become so bloated and self-regarding that something had to give. It was just a matter of when and who.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Reggie noble


    Home now a few hours , showered , fed , car hovered out and the washing machine in full tilt .

    Had a great weekend , I will admit I was one of the cry baby's on here few months back saying the lineup was **** but after some serious research and recommendations from people on here we saw lots of acts each day .

    Music wise - on Friday I saw Nas , Jenny Greene , chemical brothers and daft as punk , Nas being the highlight .

    Saturday saw Lemaitre , catfish and the bottlemen , Joey bada$$ , mura masa , Noel Gallagher , DBFC, LCD soundsystem and tony kaar , all very good , highlight for me though was mura masa and LCD , Toby kaar deadly too .

    Yesterday we saw editors , bit of wild beasts , Kano , **** robot and Adam beyer. Kano was the highlight for me , editors also very good .

    Defo notice the increased capacity, are they going to up it again next year i wonder.
    On the issue of kids at festivals , I don't have any and I don't particularly like children in general but I don't mind them being there at all, not doing any harm

    Me and my friends are all in around 32 years old , we gave up on camping 3 years ago when our tent was flattened on the first night by some tosser(s) , we sleep In our vans in the green carpark now since the 2013 one . Suits us great , dont have to deal with scrotes wrecking our heads with the general mayhem that goes on in parts of the camping areas. The rain yesterday was really annoying , ended up going to bed lot earlier than I would've normally , was fast Asleep by 1am

    On the drink n drugs debate , people get ****ed drunk before going in each day (some of my group included) because drink is so dear , temple bar prices for a pint is cat . An awful lot of drugs consumed by lots of people but these days u get that at every concert / festival going , I don't mind someone taking a banger and having a little boogie but ud swear lads were trying to kill themselves the amount of pills , ketamine , Coke etc they take in one night

    Anyway , Definitely buying an early bird ticket Friday for next year to be safe n see in 11 months time if I'll go again but I more than likely will .

    And for anyone that was worrying about my piles over the weekend , thankfully they didn't give me much grief . :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    Defo notice the increased capacity, are they going to up it again next year i wonder.

    apparently not, will try and find linky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭Peterd66


    Just home, camper cleaned and awning dryed off.

    Think this was my 10th year. Wasn't overly excited by line up in advance and I was right.

    Acts I enjoyed were mostly main stream - New Order, Super Furries, LCD.
    Also really enjoyed Dr Dog, Nat Ratcliff in other voices. Russango family in Little big tent and NAS. And John Conneely Inc on Sat afternoon in B&S.

    May be my last - crowd size has lost the magic that used to be at EP. Have been at b&S for last two years and enjoyed that much more despite the lower budget on acts.

    Re Kids I would not bring them to EP - too messy and adult. I have brought the kids at 12+ to body and soul last year and would highly recommend it as an experience for them.

    Camper van field held up to the weather extremely well, I don't know how but no muck and very easy in and out

    Post event comments here very interesting re experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    Melvin Benn was interviewed on the radio Friday or Saturday morning and he said they will not be looking to increase capacity for next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Melvin Benn was interviewed on the radio Friday or Saturday morning and he said they will not be looking to increase capacity for next year.

    Dunno where they'd fit even 5k more.It was full to the gills this year, but seemingly using the same site plan and facilities as other years with 10 thousand lower attendance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    Dunno where they'd fit even 5k more.It was full to the gills this year, but seemingly using the same site plan and facilities as other years with 10 thousand lower attendance

    20 thousand lower 3 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    Did anyone go for a dip in the lake?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    It's was pretty packed all weekend, but the Sunday crowd really fúcked us over.... lightweights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Button_y


    I really enjoyed this years festival but it is very different from the electric picnics of the past. It has very much moved to the commercial side and away from its routes of a music and arts festival. It seemed years ago you would stumble on amazing art work, great acts in smaller stages. Now you have to go out of your way to find them. The tacky amusements really over shadowed the green crafts area this year and unless you knew it was there it was easily missed.

    It feels like there is an attempt to phase out the art side and family elements and get the commercial vendors on site and cater more for the late teens early twenties.
    The family camping was alot smaller with only one campsites, tents closer together. Parking and trek to the campsite was awful and that trek around the lake was so ridiculous! What should have been a couple minutes walk from soul kids to the town ended up a trek around a dark muddy lake and back through the campsite. It made no sense whatsoever.

    I had kids with me for parts of the weekend. My kids have always went and they enjoyed it but as they get older I am less inclined to bring them. I actually don't believe in shielding them from all the "bad behaviour". They see it recognise its wrong and hopefully when it comes to their turn they will know they don't have to be in the center of it. I think when its marketed as a "family friendly" event lots of parents naively allow their 15-18 year olds buy a ticket and go. These same parents wouldn't allow their kids in a bar drinking and its often the first time these kids are let loose!

    Someone mentioned a while back that it is a festival with an identity crisis I think this sums it up completely. Its trying to be everything and as a result is loosing the uniqueness

    I will be buying tickets on Friday and going, but with the knowledge that its not the same event I am attending as I did 5-10 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Button_y wrote: »
    I really enjoyed this years festival but it is very different from the electric picnics of the past. It has very much moved to the commercial side and away from its routes of a music and arts festival. It seemed years ago you would stumble on amazing art work, great acts in smaller stages. Now you have to go out of your way to find them. The tacky amusements really over shadowed the green crafts area this year and unless you knew it was there it was easily missed.

    It feels like there is an attempt to phase out the art side and family elements and get the commercial vendors on site and cater more for the late teens early twenties.
    The family camping was alot smaller with only one campsites, tents closer together. Parking and trek to the campsite was awful and that trek around the lake was so ridiculous! What should have been a couple minutes walk from soul kids to the town ended up a trek around a dark muddy lake and back through the campsite. It made no sense whatsoever.

    I had kids with me for parts of the weekend. My kids have always went and they enjoyed it but as they get older I am less inclined to bring them. I actually don't believe in shielding them from all the "bad behaviour". They see it recognise its wrong and hopefully when it comes to their turn they will know they don't have to be in the center of it. I think when its marketed as a "family friendly" event lots of parents naively allow their 15-18 year olds buy a ticket and go. These same parents wouldn't allow their kids in a bar drinking and its often the first time these kids are let loose!

    Someone mentioned a while back that it is a festival with an identity crisis I think this sums it up completely. Its trying to be everything and as a result is loosing the uniqueness

    *That really sums up my thoughts too. There's a sense of the trying halfheartedly to keep the old elec pic type of offering but each year that goes by its being watered down*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭princemuzzy


    on the subject of kids i will have to give it serious consideration for next year because of the crowd element, we have never let them come with us on a sunday as the crowd was always that bit rougher ( day trippers imo tend to be locked when they arrrive)

    however my eldest (10) has done 6 and my youngest (6) has done 3 picnics, they have their own taste in music and really look forward to it. I really think if all kids were brought to festivals early, festivals will be a much better place in 20 years as kids will see how to properly act and be respectful of others

    one of my main gripes this year were pissed off their face 18-23 year olds constantly talking to my kids looking for high fives, you wouldnt do it normally so why here?

    by the way drink and drugs has always been a big part of ep however its out of control imo

    my lads love music and research the entire lineup for people to see and we bring them even if it means listening to somebody crap who cares its their choice? the day it becomes completely unsuitable for them will be a very sad day and unfortunately i think its coming very soon


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    I thought it was borderline too packed 2 years ago. It's increased the capacity twice since. If the lineup had gotten better, and the price gone down, then I'd be still tempted. The fact the lineup got noticeably "cheaper" and the tickets remain the same(perhaps even went up a little in the last 2 years) means I'll be steering well clear. Stinks of pure and utter greed, but hey you can't knock them when they sell out.

    Pity as it really was one of the best festivals in Europe(and the world really) 4 or 5 years ago. The fact it sells out means it will only get worse/remain the same sadly.


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