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2016/17 Premier League Injuries & Suspensions

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Any word on Jonny evans

    Anyone?

    I'm tempted to start him anyways, am I mad?


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭Markx


    FFS posted a tweet saying "Local press suggest Galloway and Brunt are West Brom’s only injury concerns to face Middlesbrough on Sunday" suggesting Evans is grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,736 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    What happened Kyle Walker today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭T-b0n3


    What happened Kyle Walker today?

    He went off mid way through the first half as he was ill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Oh for f sakes. Talk of a Lamela ban being likely now!! :(

    https://twitter.com/Kop_Central/status/769948357599133696


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    FHFC wrote: »
    Oh for f sakes. Talk of a Lamela ban being likely now!! :(

    https://twitter.com/Kop_Central/status/769948357599133696

    them argies are filthy :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,342 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Wildcard incoming if that and/or Aguero gets reported.

    Madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    First Gray, now Lamela...Leicester players better be careful not to do anything to upset the poor Pool fans in the next game!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭patmac


    Aguero to miss World Cup qualifiers through injury Ben has just retweeted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    patmac wrote: »
    Aguero to miss World Cup qualifiers through injury Ben has just retweeted.

    Sore elbow?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    patmac wrote: »
    Aguero to miss World Cup qualifiers through injury Ben has just retweeted.

    I thought he was limping before being subbed yday alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭patmac


    Sore elbow?

    Calf strain as well according to City.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Here's a great angle on the Aguero 'elbow'.

    Don't see him getting banned TBH.

    https://twitter.com/thomasdeeacon/status/769996343016321025


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    I said that yesterday there was little or nothing in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I think there's enough there that we can say there SHOULD be a ban, whether it will or not is another story but I was kind of expecting we would hear today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    CSF wrote: »
    I think there's enough there that we can say there SHOULD be a ban, whether it will or not is another story but I was kind of expecting we would hear today.

    What should he get banned for. There is nothing in that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    What should he get banned for. There is nothing in that.

    I almost feel like we're almost watching different videos because he definitely elbows him. The fact that he doesn't catch him particularly clean certainly increases the likelihood that he will avoid the ban, but there's no lack of intent there IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    What should he get banned for. There is nothing in that.

    There's blatantly an attempt to elbow him in the face, I find it bizarre you can't see that. He can't even say that he was using his elbows as leverage to jump or whatever as Fellaini frequency gets away with. The fact that fortunately he doesn't actually connect should have no effect on the punishment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    CSF wrote: »
    I almost feel like we're almost watching different videos because he definitely elbows him. The fact that he doesn't catch him particularly clean certainly increases the likelihood that he will avoid the ban, but there's no lack of intent there IMO.

    Reid is all over aguero he then tries to jump. A natural reaction when you jump is for your arms to not stay by your side. What happened is not an elbow . An elbow that you should be banned for is when you aim an elbow to catch an opponent there is no way that's what aguero was trying to do there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Reid is all over aguero he then tries to jump. A natural reaction when you jump is for your arms to not stay by your side. What happened is not an elbow . An elbow that you should be banned for is when you aim an elbow to catch an opponent there is no way that's what aguero was trying to do there.

    Probably one we're not gonna agree on. Looks intentional to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Reid is all over aguero he then tries to jump. A natural reaction when you jump is for your arms to not stay by your side. What happened is not an elbow . An elbow that you should be banned for is when you aim an elbow to catch an opponent there is no way that's what aguero was trying to do there.

    I have to agree with this. But I fear that this is gonna be like that dress that nobody could agree what colour it was a few years back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Reid is all over aguero he then tries to jump. A natural reaction when you jump is for your arms to not stay by your side. What happened is not an elbow . An elbow that you should be banned for is when you aim an elbow to catch an opponent there is no way that's what aguero was trying to do there.

    I have to agree with this. I had to watch it a few times before I realised Agueros elbow never goes above Reids shoulder (it looks like it, but that's actually the blue on Reids shirt).


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    CSF wrote: »
    Probably one we're not gonna agree on. Looks intentional to me.

    As I'm on wildcard it would probably suit me if he was banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    As I'm on wildcard it would probably suit me if he was banned.

    I don't know how I feel about that. I'm on wildcard too but I'm already finding how/when to bring him back in to be a bit of a headache.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Would we not have expected to hear today if they were charging him ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    km79 wrote: »
    Would we not have expected to hear today if they were charging him ?

    Someone suggested the bank holiday might be a factor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    What should he get banned for. There is nothing in that.

    Look at his closed fist, you don't close your fist when you jump or try to muscle someone out of the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    km79 wrote: »
    Would we not have expected to hear today if they were charging him ?

    Bank Holiday plus I think they have a bit more breathing space with no domestic game for 2 weeks. Normally they need to move fast to give the player time to respond etc.

    Twitter says tomorrow.

    https://twitter.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/770294975057846272


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,333 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Benimar wrote: »
    I have to agree with this. I had to watch it a few times before I realised Agueros elbow never goes above Reids shoulder (it looks like it, but that's actually the blue on Reids shirt).

    Never an elbow.

    Reid all over him. Aguero uses forehand to push Reids forehand away. He succeeds and Reids hand is forced down. The excess force cases his fist to hit Reids larynx.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    PARlance wrote: »
    Never an elbow.

    Reid all over him. Aguero uses forehand to push Reids forehand away. He succeeds and Reids hand is forced down. The excess force cases his fist to hit Reids larynx.

    Agreed. Elbow never makes contact. I was just pointing out that his elbow wasn't even that high. It looks as if it was until you slow down the replay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭threein99




  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Wildcard on standby

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    I know there were differing views on the footage, but I really thought that there was nothing in it and that the FA would not go there as there was at least enough 'grey area' to mount a defence. If I was Aguero or his reps I would challenge it.

    My view of the clip was that he was tussling with Reid, note that his arm is raised at the very start as they come together. Then Reid climbs over him, pushes him and his arm downwards, fouling him in the current definition of it. Aguero does react with frustration and some agression but only by pushing back upwards against and raising his arm back to where it was, then jumps slightly as the ball comes in. There is certainly a reaction of pushing himself and swinging/leading with his arm back toward Reid, and his arm and elbow make contact, elbow around the shoulder and wrist/forearm around the windpipe in accidental contact as Reid reacts from the header.

    To call it violent play or an attempt to deliberately elbow him in the face is dubious and I think could be challenged by Aguero. Also worth noting that while there is clear contact (elbow to shoulder and wrist/arm to neck/chin) the Reid then grabs his face around the eye and goes down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    My opinion aside, have we many cases where players were charged but not banned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    CSF wrote: »
    My opinion aside, have we many cases where players were charged but not banned?

    None that I can think of. Hoping that Gray will be the first and they will just put him on some jokeshop learning course.

    Otherwise it looks like Gray+Aguero out for Lukaku+Giroud and hope that Lamela doesn't get whacked with a ban as well :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Looks like they'll have to send Marriner to Specsavers too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    CSF wrote: »
    My opinion aside, have we many cases where players were charged but not banned?

    Its unusual. Thats why I also thought they would stay away when in some peoples eyes at least there is "grey area" on the offense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    FHFC wrote: »
    Its unusual. Thats why I also thought they would stay away when in some peoples eyes at least there is "grey area" on the offense.

    I wish they just had early concrete answers on these things. Can't take out Aguero for Negredo who may rise tonight or tomorrow until I actually know he's in or out. These .1s add up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Aguero charged. 3 game ban likely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Any more news on Gray? If they charge him to I may only be able to play 10 next game week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Any more news on Gray? If they charge him to I may only be able to play 10 next game week

    I think tomorrow was his deadline to accept or decline the charge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    CSF wrote: »
    I think tomorrow was his deadline to accept or decline the charge.

    They have charged him tho? My own fault for making 3 transfers last Sunday morning I guess but didn't want to miss out on hazard and Ozil if they rose. Which they did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    They have charged him tho? My own fault for making 3 transfers last Sunday morning I guessed.

    Yeah he was charged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭sword1


    He will miss united and Bournemouth if he gets 3 games ,will need to wildcard to get rid and would not be easy to get back in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,826 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    sword1 wrote: »
    He will miss united and Bournemouth if he gets 3 games ,will need to wildcard to get rid and would not be easy to get back in

    Selling him is easy but getting him back is a whole different problem. Probably just lookong at Benteke as a like for like till he returns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    dahat wrote: »
    Selling him is easy but getting him back is a whole different problem. Probably just lookong at Benteke as a like for like till he returns.

    It's not that hard lads if you're disciplined and stick to a plan.

    If wildcarding plan an Aguero team as if he wasn't banned and work backwards so you're no more than 2 or 3 moves away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    FHFC wrote: »
    It's not that hard lads if you're disciplined and stick to a plan.

    If wildcarding plan an Aguero team as if he wasn't banned and work backwards so you're no more than 2 or 3 moves away.

    What worries me is that some players will splash the cash all over the place with 4 premium mids and 3 premium defenders and kick our asses while we are waiting for a return of Aguero :)

    3 moves away is a good plan, though, especially that Aguero's price could decrease in 3 weeks time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Who_8_Paul?


    It'll only take 2 transfers to downgrade Sanchez to a mid price midfielder and upgrade Vardy or whoever you bring in for Aguero. The problem is if Hazard, Sanchez and Zlatan all do well when Aguero is out, it's back to the trying to fit all 4 in and I can't see a way without a pretty weak squad elsewhere


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