2016/17 Premier League Injuries & Suspensions

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 26-08-2016 8:19pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Any word on Jonny evans

Anyone?

I'm tempted to start him anyways, am I mad?

Markx · 26-08-2016 9:05pm

FFS posted a tweet saying "Local press suggest Galloway and Brunt are West Brom’s only injury concerns to face Middlesbrough on Sunday" suggesting Evans is grand.

Bleating Lamb · 27-08-2016 9:26pm

What happened Kyle Walker today?

T-b0n3 · 27-08-2016 9:41pm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

What happened Kyle Walker today?

He went off mid way through the first half as he was ill.

FHFC · 28-08-2016 9:46pm

Oh for f sakes. Talk of a Lamela ban being likely now!!

https://twitter.com/Kop_Central/status/769948357599133696

km79 · 28-08-2016 9:48pm

FHFC wrote: »

Oh for f sakes. Talk of a Lamela ban being likely now!!

https://twitter.com/Kop_Central/status/769948357599133696

them argies are filthy

SlickRic · 28-08-2016 9:51pm

Wildcard incoming if that and/or Aguero gets reported.

Madness.

extra gravy · 28-08-2016 9:51pm

First Gray, now Lamela...Leicester players better be careful not to do anything to upset the poor Pool fans in the next game!

patmac · 29-08-2016 1:45pm

Aguero to miss World Cup qualifiers through injury Ben has just retweeted.

Cypher_sounds · 29-08-2016 1:59pm

patmac wrote: »

Aguero to miss World Cup qualifiers through injury Ben has just retweeted.

Sore elbow?

km79 · 29-08-2016 2:03pm

patmac wrote: »

Aguero to miss World Cup qualifiers through injury Ben has just retweeted.

I thought he was limping before being subbed yday alright

patmac · 29-08-2016 3:13pm

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Sore elbow?

Calf strain as well according to City.

FHFC · 29-08-2016 4:50pm

Here's a great angle on the Aguero 'elbow'.

Don't see him getting banned TBH.

https://twitter.com/thomasdeeacon/status/769996343016321025

Iused2likebusts · 29-08-2016 5:27pm

I said that yesterday there was little or nothing in it.

CSF · 29-08-2016 5:35pm

I think there's enough there that we can say there SHOULD be a ban, whether it will or not is another story but I was kind of expecting we would hear today.

Iused2likebusts · 29-08-2016 5:38pm

CSF wrote: »

I think there's enough there that we can say there SHOULD be a ban, whether it will or not is another story but I was kind of expecting we would hear today.

What should he get banned for. There is nothing in that.

CSF · 29-08-2016 5:42pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

What should he get banned for. There is nothing in that.

I almost feel like we're almost watching different videos because he definitely elbows him. The fact that he doesn't catch him particularly clean certainly increases the likelihood that he will avoid the ban, but there's no lack of intent there IMO.

ScummyMan · 29-08-2016 5:46pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

What should he get banned for. There is nothing in that.

There's blatantly an attempt to elbow him in the face, I find it bizarre you can't see that. He can't even say that he was using his elbows as leverage to jump or whatever as Fellaini frequency gets away with. The fact that fortunately he doesn't actually connect should have no effect on the punishment.

Iused2likebusts · 29-08-2016 5:47pm

CSF wrote: »

I almost feel like we're almost watching different videos because he definitely elbows him. The fact that he doesn't catch him particularly clean certainly increases the likelihood that he will avoid the ban, but there's no lack of intent there IMO.

Reid is all over aguero he then tries to jump. A natural reaction when you jump is for your arms to not stay by your side. What happened is not an elbow . An elbow that you should be banned for is when you aim an elbow to catch an opponent there is no way that's what aguero was trying to do there.

CSF · 29-08-2016 5:56pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Reid is all over aguero he then tries to jump. A natural reaction when you jump is for your arms to not stay by your side. What happened is not an elbow . An elbow that you should be banned for is when you aim an elbow to catch an opponent there is no way that's what aguero was trying to do there.

Probably one we're not gonna agree on. Looks intentional to me.

FHFC · 29-08-2016 5:56pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Reid is all over aguero he then tries to jump. A natural reaction when you jump is for your arms to not stay by your side. What happened is not an elbow . An elbow that you should be banned for is when you aim an elbow to catch an opponent there is no way that's what aguero was trying to do there.

I have to agree with this. But I fear that this is gonna be like that dress that nobody could agree what colour it was a few years back.

Benimar · 29-08-2016 5:56pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Reid is all over aguero he then tries to jump. A natural reaction when you jump is for your arms to not stay by your side. What happened is not an elbow . An elbow that you should be banned for is when you aim an elbow to catch an opponent there is no way that's what aguero was trying to do there.

I have to agree with this. I had to watch it a few times before I realised Agueros elbow never goes above Reids shoulder (it looks like it, but that's actually the blue on Reids shirt).

Iused2likebusts · 29-08-2016 6:11pm

CSF wrote: »

Probably one we're not gonna agree on. Looks intentional to me.

As I'm on wildcard it would probably suit me if he was banned.

CSF · 29-08-2016 6:12pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

As I'm on wildcard it would probably suit me if he was banned.

I don't know how I feel about that. I'm on wildcard too but I'm already finding how/when to bring him back in to be a bit of a headache.

km79 · 29-08-2016 6:48pm

Would we not have expected to hear today if they were charging him ?

CSF · 29-08-2016 6:51pm

km79 wrote: »

Would we not have expected to hear today if they were charging him ?

Someone suggested the bank holiday might be a factor.

siblers · 29-08-2016 6:55pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

What should he get banned for. There is nothing in that.

Look at his closed fist, you don't close your fist when you jump or try to muscle someone out of the way.

km79 · 29-08-2016 6:56pm

http://twitter.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/770318956037083137

FHFC · 29-08-2016 6:59pm

km79 wrote: »

Would we not have expected to hear today if they were charging him ?

Bank Holiday plus I think they have a bit more breathing space with no domestic game for 2 weeks. Normally they need to move fast to give the player time to respond etc.

Twitter says tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/770294975057846272

PARlance · 29-08-2016 7:41pm

Benimar wrote: »

I have to agree with this. I had to watch it a few times before I realised Agueros elbow never goes above Reids shoulder (it looks like it, but that's actually the blue on Reids shirt).

Never an elbow.

Reid all over him. Aguero uses forehand to push Reids forehand away. He succeeds and Reids hand is forced down. The excess force cases his fist to hit Reids larynx.

Benimar · 29-08-2016 8:23pm

PARlance wrote: »

Never an elbow.

Reid all over him. Aguero uses forehand to push Reids forehand away. He succeeds and Reids hand is forced down. The excess force cases his fist to hit Reids larynx.

Agreed. Elbow never makes contact. I was just pointing out that his elbow wasn't even that high. It looks as if it was until you slow down the replay.

FHFC · 30-08-2016 11:01am

https://twitter.com/richardajkeys/status/770539179340070912

threein99 · 30-08-2016 11:32am

FHFC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/richardajkeys/status/770539179340070912

Banter

GLaDOS · 30-08-2016 11:34am

Wildcard on standby

FHFC · 30-08-2016 11:42am

I know there were differing views on the footage, but I really thought that there was nothing in it and that the FA would not go there as there was at least enough 'grey area' to mount a defence. If I was Aguero or his reps I would challenge it.

My view of the clip was that he was tussling with Reid, note that his arm is raised at the very start as they come together. Then Reid climbs over him, pushes him and his arm downwards, fouling him in the current definition of it. Aguero does react with frustration and some agression but only by pushing back upwards against and raising his arm back to where it was, then jumps slightly as the ball comes in. There is certainly a reaction of pushing himself and swinging/leading with his arm back toward Reid, and his arm and elbow make contact, elbow around the shoulder and wrist/forearm around the windpipe in accidental contact as Reid reacts from the header.

To call it violent play or an attempt to deliberately elbow him in the face is dubious and I think could be challenged by Aguero. Also worth noting that while there is clear contact (elbow to shoulder and wrist/arm to neck/chin) the Reid then grabs his face around the eye and goes down.

CSF · 30-08-2016 11:55am

My opinion aside, have we many cases where players were charged but not banned?

jive · 30-08-2016 12:38pm

CSF wrote: »

My opinion aside, have we many cases where players were charged but not banned?

None that I can think of. Hoping that Gray will be the first and they will just put him on some jokeshop learning course.

Otherwise it looks like Gray+Aguero out for Lukaku+Giroud and hope that Lamela doesn't get whacked with a ban as well :mad:

manual_man · 30-08-2016 12:47pm

Looks like they'll have to send Marriner to Specsavers too

FHFC · 30-08-2016 1:03pm

CSF wrote: »

My opinion aside, have we many cases where players were charged but not banned?

Its unusual. Thats why I also thought they would stay away when in some peoples eyes at least there is "grey area" on the offense.

CSF · 30-08-2016 1:14pm

FHFC wrote: »

Its unusual. Thats why I also thought they would stay away when in some peoples eyes at least there is "grey area" on the offense.

I wish they just had early concrete answers on these things. Can't take out Aguero for Negredo who may rise tonight or tomorrow until I actually know he's in or out. These .1s add up.

CSF · 30-08-2016 5:17pm

Aguero charged. 3 game ban likely.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 30-08-2016 5:26pm

Any more news on Gray? If they charge him to I may only be able to play 10 next game week

CSF · 30-08-2016 5:32pm

MrMac84 wrote: »

Any more news on Gray? If they charge him to I may only be able to play 10 next game week

I think tomorrow was his deadline to accept or decline the charge.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 30-08-2016 5:57pm

CSF wrote: »

I think tomorrow was his deadline to accept or decline the charge.

They have charged him tho? My own fault for making 3 transfers last Sunday morning I guess but didn't want to miss out on hazard and Ozil if they rose. Which they did

CSF · 30-08-2016 5:58pm

MrMac84 wrote: »

They have charged him tho? My own fault for making 3 transfers last Sunday morning I guessed.

Yeah he was charged.

sword1 · 30-08-2016 6:14pm

He will miss united and Bournemouth if he gets 3 games ,will need to wildcard to get rid and would not be easy to get back in

dahat · 30-08-2016 6:18pm

sword1 wrote: »

He will miss united and Bournemouth if he gets 3 games ,will need to wildcard to get rid and would not be easy to get back in

Selling him is easy but getting him back is a whole different problem. Probably just lookong at Benteke as a like for like till he returns.

FHFC · 30-08-2016 11:04pm

dahat wrote: »

Selling him is easy but getting him back is a whole different problem. Probably just lookong at Benteke as a like for like till he returns.

It's not that hard lads if you're disciplined and stick to a plan.

If wildcarding plan an Aguero team as if he wasn't banned and work backwards so you're no more than 2 or 3 moves away.

wonski · 30-08-2016 11:16pm

FHFC wrote: »

It's not that hard lads if you're disciplined and stick to a plan.

If wildcarding plan an Aguero team as if he wasn't banned and work backwards so you're no more than 2 or 3 moves away.

What worries me is that some players will splash the cash all over the place with 4 premium mids and 3 premium defenders and kick our asses while we are waiting for a return of Aguero

3 moves away is a good plan, though, especially that Aguero's price could decrease in 3 weeks time.

Who_8_Paul? · 30-08-2016 11:26pm

It'll only take 2 transfers to downgrade Sanchez to a mid price midfielder and upgrade Vardy or whoever you bring in for Aguero. The problem is if Hazard, Sanchez and Zlatan all do well when Aguero is out, it's back to the trying to fit all 4 in and I can't see a way without a pretty weak squad elsewhere

2016/17 Premier League Injuries & Suspensions

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