Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

mdwexford · 25-08-2016 09:03PM

Swashbuckler wrote: »

In my mind there is literally no benefit to Conor fighting Aldo or anyone at 205. Rest up. Recover. Fight on the new years card.

Breaking ppv records and earning boatloads of cash would be Conor's mindset of benefits I'd say.

He has 11 weeks to prepare.
Depends how much damage he has after 202.

prettyboy81 · 25-08-2016 09:10PM

Basically 11 weeks to manage to get back down to 145, if the body is able. He still knocks out Aldo inside 2 rounds, IMO.

Outlaw Pete · 25-08-2016 09:17PM

mdwexford wrote: »

Depends how much damage he has after 202.

Leg seemingly fine anyway.

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/768510186164133890

Also posted the following interesting tweets.

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/768510481065652225

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/768512569380179968

Frank Bullitt · 25-08-2016 09:19PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I think Conor will fight Aldo at 205.

I know it's very soon after a tough fight but Aldo is seen as an easy opponant for McGregor after what happened and so Conor only having a small amount of time to prepare for the fight gives it an air of excitement that it might not have where it to happen at a later point. It also means UFC get to silence the whingers claiming Conor hasn't defended his belt, they'll have their biggest draw fighting on quite an historical night for them and he's Irish to boot. The fight just ticks so many boxes that I can't see it not happening.

Thats a big jump in weight for both of them.

Outlaw Pete · 25-08-2016 09:23PM

cletus wrote: »

I read the start of your post three times, couldn't figure why you thought they'd fight at lhw.

Gintonious wrote: »

Thats a big jump in weight for both of them.

I don't see why either of you would be surprised by that tbh.

Sure he'll have to get up to 265 when he fights Brock.

Call Me Jimmy · 25-08-2016 09:32PM

brock couldnt live with that left hand

Tigger · 25-08-2016 09:37PM

Mellor wrote: »

Usually for Joe Soap like you and I thats how it works. But high level athletes get hit up by the US. That's why Manny Pacquiao, resident of the Philippians, was chased by the IRS. He fought Algeri in Macao for a smaller purse as so he didn't lose 10m in tax (had it been Nevada).
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do ireland and the us not have a double taxation agreement?
conors money goes into a company i'm sure

Tigger · 25-08-2016 09:38PM

Gintonious wrote: »

Thats a big jump in weight for both of them.

beer came out my nose

darced · 25-08-2016 09:39PM

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Tigger · 25-08-2016 09:50PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

No, they'd be under weight for 155 if they weigh in at 145.

would they
i didn't know that rule
what about 2 weigh ins
weigh in at 145 drink a couple of bulmers weigh in at 147

Saipanne · 25-08-2016 10:00PM

Any idea how many ppv buys UFC 202 got?

Edit: Google told me 1.5m

Fromvert · 25-08-2016 10:24PM

For McGregor to headline UFC 205 both him and the UFC will both have to want it enough that they'll sort out the negotiating quickly. That's with him being fit of course.

Tazzimus · 25-08-2016 11:09PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I think Conor will fight Aldo at 205.

I know it's very soon after a tough fight but Aldo is seen as an easy opponant for McGregor after what happened and so Conor only having a small amount of time to prepare for the fight gives it an air of excitement that it might not have where it to happen at a later point. It also means UFC get to silence the whingers claiming Conor hasn't defended his belt, they'll have their biggest draw fighting on quite an historical night for them and he's Irish to boot. The fight just ticks so many boxes that I can't see it not happening.

Anyone thinking Aldo is an easy opponent needs to do their research (not directing that at you btw)

DrPhilG · 25-08-2016 11:11PM

I can't see Conor getting back to 145 in time for New York. Plus he has already admitted to being unmotivated to face Aldo.

I still reckon he'll get a shot at Alvarez in New York.

StringerBell · 25-08-2016 11:13PM

Give him a shot at Alvarez in New York, no problem, but have him drop the belt first. It either means something or it doesn't, could have him fight Alvarez (jumping the queue but whatever) and have Aldo fight Holloway for the FW belt.

Tazzimus · 25-08-2016 11:14PM

pudzey101 wrote: »

Nick Diaz jumped by 4 people outside a las vegas nightclub makes headlines , but nothing is said when all of them are thrown bottles and abusing conor on his own

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/8/25/12637694/morning-report-nick-diaz-reportedly-jumped-by-multiple-attackers

That's a bad fight to pick, as I'm sure they realised very quickly.

CSF · 25-08-2016 11:21PM

Tazzimus wrote: »

Anyone thinking Aldo is an easy opponent needs to do their research (not directing that at you btw)

I don't think Aldo is an easy opponent (the next best in the division as he has proved time and time again) but I don't think anyone can put it up to Conor at 145. Aldo included.

Tazzimus · 25-08-2016 11:26PM

CSF wrote: »

I don't think Aldo is an easy opponent (the next best in the division as he has proved time and time again) but I don't think anyone can put it up to Conor at 145. Aldo included.

True, I still think Conor wins but he's not an easy fight. Unless he ends up rushing in headfirst like last time, which he won't.

JJayoo · 26-08-2016 12:00AM

I think a rematch will very much depend on Aldo's ability to stay calm and stick to a game plan. I was very impressed by his fight with Frankie, a complete 180 to his normal style in which he goes all out for 3 rounds then is foooked and coasts the rest of the fight. Then add in Aldo power leg kicks and you have a nightmare for McG

Or else he will rush in and throw the game plan out the window.

CurryFlavoured · 26-08-2016 12:41AM

Tazzimus wrote: »

CSF wrote: »

I don't think Aldo is an easy opponent (the next best in the division as he has proved time and time again) but I don't think anyone can put it up to Conor at 145. Aldo included.

True, I still think Conor wins but he's not an easy fight. Unless he ends up rushing in headfirst like last time, which he won't.

I think that's kind of naive after Conor's last 2 fights, still think Edgar and Aldo have plenty chance against Conor. They're both better fighters than Nate.

darced · 26-08-2016 01:00AM

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Outlaw Pete · 26-08-2016 01:04AM

darced wrote: »

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Would have to be at lightweight as Nate would never make 145.

Easy win for Nate for me as Aldo has only ever fought at lightweight once before and he lost.

StringerBell · 26-08-2016 01:20AM

Don't see it being an easy win for Nate, tough as they come but Aldo would be well capable of shredding the **** out of legs and winning. If Nate was a bigger puncher I would give him the nod but I think Aldo is the superior fighter and one of his strongest areas, leg kicks, is also one of Nates weakest.

Nate has the size but if Aldo can overcome that with his explosiveness and leg kicks I think he takes a handy enough victory. Hard to see how Nate beats him, I don't think he outpoints him, or KO's him, unlikely to sub him either, Aldo has excellent BJJ also.

It would actually be a fight I'd be interested in to see how it would play out, big fan of both but my money would be on the little man.

Outlaw Pete · 26-08-2016 01:32AM

Oh don't get me wrong, I'd be interested in seeing it alright, just think though that Nate would knock him spark out, as I don't think Aldo is capable of taking too many shots off a decent 155'er. Plus Nate must have five or six inches reach on him.

I'd see it going something like Nate's second fight against Maynard went:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLBfF4FvE5s

StringerBell · 26-08-2016 01:39AM

Rather then getting in to much of a back and forth about it, since the likelihood of us ever finding out is slim to none, what we can agree on is that it would be a fight of interest at the very least

Mellor · 26-08-2016 02:45AM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Would have to be at lightweight as Nate would never make 145.

Easy win for Nate for me as Aldo has only ever fought at lightweight once before and he lost.

That fight at lightweight 10 years ago is irrelevant tbh.
If Conor had success in rds 1 & 2 with leg kicks, then Aldo absolutely would do the same.

CurryFlavoured · 26-08-2016 02:49AM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

darced wrote: »

Would anyone pick Nate to beat Aldo? I dont think he would.

Would have to be at lightweight as Nate would never make 145.

Easy win for Nate for me as Aldo has only ever fought at lightweight once before and he lost.

Ridiculous logic, I hope you're joking :ermm: It's as relevant as Conor getting subbed by a flyweight 8 years ago

Aldo and Frankie both beat Diaz by a straightforward UD at lightweight imo.

Outlaw Pete · 26-08-2016 03:08AM

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Ridiculous logic, I hope you're joking :ermm: It's as relevant as Conor getting subbed by a flyweight 8 years ago

Aldo and Frankie both beat Diaz by a straightforward UD at lightweight imo.

Didn't say Nate'd win just because Aldo lost at lightweight 10 years ago. Just mentioned that loss whilst pointing out that he has never won at lightweight in his career. Aldo mentioned that he has no where near as much a reach and those things I feel are very much relevant. You disagree, cool, but I don't think there is anything ridiculous about my having the opinion I do.

Mellor wrote: »

If Conor had success in rds 1 & 2 with leg kicks, then Aldo absolutely would do the same.

Well, I don't see why just because McGregor was successful with using legs kicks, Aldo would be too. Sure, that was part of how Conor was successful but the rest of his attributes as a fighter Aldo cannot match and that is the reason why I think Nate would beat him fairly handily.

Like I said, be interesting fight to see.

ShooterSF · 26-08-2016 03:17AM

Way off topic I know but would Aldo not being a southpaw not affect his kicking vs Nate?

Mellor · 26-08-2016 04:20AM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Well, I don't see why just because McGregor was successful with using legs kicks, Aldo would be too. Sure, that was part of how Conor was successful but the rest of his attributes as a fighter Aldo cannot match and that is the reason why I think Nate would beat him fairly handily.

Like I said, be interesting fight to see.

Aldo's kicks are better than Conor's. Are they the only consideration, but they are a lot more relevant than a fight he had a decade ago.
Aldo lacks some of Conor's advantages. But he also has others Conor is lacking. He's not nearly as concerned about the takedown for example.

ShooterSF wrote: »

Way off topic I know but would Aldo not being a southpaw not affect his kicking vs Nate?

It might if Nate checked kicks all the time. But he rarely does.

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