Forty sheep killed in dog attack in Co Kerry(Graphic photos in links)

paddysdream · 10-08-2016 09:36PM

Smondie wrote: »

What's the position on shhoting loose dogs on your land? Is it Legal or not?

Very legal despite what some people think.
According to the law you can shoot a dog if you,as the farmer,form the opinion that the dog is worrying,or about to worry the sheep and/or the dogs are out of the owners control.
You don't have to wait until the dog actually takes a bite out of the sheep.
Common sense dictates that you don't plug a dog that is sitting at the gate with an owner in control of it.

For anyone that thinks those photo's are graphic then you should see the aftermath of a dog attack up close .Rather more gruesome than any photo can convey.
Lovely sight to see lambs with legs hanging off,missing ears or maybe their jaw,holes torn in their stomach and all these still alive.

JP Liz V1 · 10-08-2016 09:39PM

Lampage

Awful sight

tomwaterford · 10-08-2016 09:41PM

paddysdream wrote: »

Insurance for dog attacks on sheep is prohibitive.Very very few farmers would have it.Priced it here a few times and even suffering a few doggie related incidents it would be very borderline.It also only covers direct losses and not ewes aborting or subsequent ill thrive due to stress etc.
You can claim from the dog owners house policy(assuming you find the culprit and the owners have house insurance)
SaveSave

I had sheep attacked by dogs here. ...knew the owners and all.....had some job to get money out of them

Lost about a third of my lambs aborted and had to handle practically all my sheep to lamb them after it....not fun when your having to work aswell

Letree · 10-08-2016 10:29PM

If a farmer sees any dog on their land just shoot it.

KingBrian2 · 10-08-2016 10:34PM

Some farmer will use this as an excuse to cull the Eagle population when what we really need are owners who an control their dogs.

Discodog · 10-08-2016 11:31PM

Don't prosecute the owner but shoot the dog. Good old Irish logic.

lazybones32 · 10-08-2016 11:32PM

At least the dog gathered up their carcasses after...

Graphic my hole! Might be shocking to those who don't know how our meat is extracted from the animal.

KungPao · 10-08-2016 11:44PM

Discodog wrote: »

Don't prosecute the owner but shoot the dog. Good old Irish logic.

Dog does what dogs do...shocker.

I hope the dog is not killed, but hope the owner gets the book thrown at him.

Poor sheep.

Letree · 10-08-2016 11:47PM

KungPao wrote: »

Dog does what dogs do...shocker.

I hope the dog is not killed, but hope the owner gets the book thrown at him.

Poor sheep.

I think both are required. The owner most definitely needs to be prosecuted but the dog also needs to be put down or shot as it has a taste for blood now.

Discodog · 10-08-2016 11:48PM

KungPao wrote: »

Dog does what dogs do...shocker.

I hope the dog is not killed, but hope the owner gets the book thrown at him.

Poor sheep.

Dogs do what their owners let them do. It's why some owners will never have their dogs microchipped or even a name tag on their collar.

Discodog · 10-08-2016 11:49PM

Letree wrote: »

I think both are required. The owner most definitely needs to be prosecuted but the dog also needs to be put down or shot as it has a taste for blood now.

Taste for blood - total rubbish.
An old wives tale.

gctest50 · 10-08-2016 11:55PM

You'd need a few Kangals or Maremmas - should shred anything that attacks the flock

Since they’ve had the dogs, the number of cougars he’s seen near the goats has gone from six two years ago to one last year to none this year.

http://bit.ly/2aNgxCH

maudgonner · 10-08-2016 11:57PM

sugarman wrote: »

On a side note, why does the media always need to round up death tolls in any instance? 36 died according to the article itself, yet headline has 40.

36 killed in the main attack but also:

Three neighbours of the farmer in question also had four sheep killed on the same night.

Kovu · 11-08-2016 12:03AM

Discodog wrote: »

Don't prosecute the owner but shoot the dog. Good old Irish logic.

Nobody said the owner wouldn't be prosecuted as well, the easiest way to stop the dog and ensure you catch him in order to check for a microchip is to shoot them. It's also the fastest way to put an immediate stop to the stress suffered by the sheep.

Fabb · 11-08-2016 12:13AM

What if we shut down all farms in Ireland?

maudgonner · 11-08-2016 12:24AM

Fabb wrote: »

What if we shut down all farms in Ireland?

What if we train all dogs to become vegetarian?

I'm failing to see your point Fabb?

vicwatson · 11-08-2016 12:31AM

Will someone please think of the seals, deer and red kites in Kerry?

Mint Aero · 11-08-2016 12:34AM

Sorry what's this got to do with the Haely Rae?

Noveight · 11-08-2016 01:30AM

Mint Aero wrote: »

Sorry what's this got to do with the Haely Rae?

They probably showed up at all 40 funerals with a mourning pack. Or something.

Grayson · 11-08-2016 04:15AM

smash wrote: »

American werewolf in Kerry!

I hear it has a tremendous fear of stamps and its yawn sounds like Liam Neeson chasing a load of hens around inside a barrel.

cumulonimbus · 11-08-2016 04:59AM

Discodog · 11-08-2016 09:06AM

Kovu wrote: »

Nobody said the owner wouldn't be prosecuted as well, the easiest way to stop the dog and ensure you catch him in order to check for a microchip is to shoot them. It's also the fastest way to put an immediate stop to the stress suffered by the sheep.

The owners are very rarely prosecuted because they deliberately don't tag or microchip their dog.

I agree that, if an attack is in progress, then shooting the dog is the only option. But after the attack it's pointless & is just a reaction to the "tasted blood" crowd. It's just revenge on a dog that was unfortunate to have an irresponsible owner.

The owner could probably identified but no one is going to make that degree of effort.

Decuc500 · 11-08-2016 09:38AM

Letree wrote: »

If a farmer sees any dog on their land just shoot it.

Especially Chihuahuas. Those guys are lethal.

failinis · 11-08-2016 09:41AM

Discodog wrote: »

The owners are very rarely prosecuted because they deliberately don't tag or microchip their dog.

I agree that, if an attack is in progress, then shooting the dog is the only option. But after the attack it's pointless & is just a reaction to the "tasted blood" crowd. It's just revenge on a dog that was unfortunate to have an irresponsible owner.

The owner could probably identified but no one is going to make that degree of effort.

I am assuming it is like those dogs that chase cars/lorries along the foot paths.
Its a game, and an addictive game.
Dogs get to chase living things that make noise and do not fight back seems like doggie heaven with sheep. At least with chasing cars the cars normally win via crushing wheels.

Chinasea · 11-08-2016 09:58AM

I don't see stray dogs roaming round in Kerry. At least not in rural areas. I am not so sure this was carried out by a dog. I know a vet apparently said that the teeth marks matched that of a dog. Not sure how true this is at all.

failinis · 11-08-2016 10:02AM

Chinasea wrote: »

I don't see stray dogs roaming round in Kerry. At least not in rural areas. I am not so sure this was carried out by a dog. I know a vet apparently said that the teeth marks matched that of a dog. Not sure how true this is at all.

What was it then, a tiger? :rolleyes:

Kovu · 11-08-2016 10:27AM

Discodog wrote: »

The owners are very rarely prosecuted because they deliberately don't tag or microchip their dog.

I agree that, if an attack is in progress, then shooting the dog is the only option. But after the attack it's pointless & is just a reaction to the "tasted blood" crowd. It's just revenge on a dog that was unfortunate to have an irresponsible owner.

The owner could probably identified but no one is going to make that degree of effort.

Where would you stand on the issue if the dog had attacked another dog and killed it? For farmers a lot of these sheep have been breed and reared for generations so seeing them chased down and killed is devastating.

Chinasea wrote: »

I don't see stray dogs roaming round in Kerry. At least not in rural areas. I am not so sure this was carried out by a dog. I know a vet apparently said that the teeth marks matched that of a dog. Not sure how true this is at all.

It's not stray dogs, it's family pets that are allowed out to roam at night. Because darling Fluffy would never hurt a sheepy weepy.

razorblunt · 11-08-2016 10:37AM

Came across something like this once, I have friends who live up towards the highlands in Scotland.
They have two rescue whippets, really docile, but bolted one day on a woodland walk, by the time they caught up to them in a clearing they had attacked a dear culminating in their Dad coming up with his shotgun and having to put the thing out of it's misery
They reported it to the police who sent them to the Gamekeeper of the land as there would likely be a fine to pay. He let them away without the fine thankfully and they now keep the dogs on the lead everywhere. But it just goes to show how your "he thinks he's a human" pet go against your misconceptions.

Letree · 11-08-2016 10:46AM

Discodog wrote: »

But after the attack it's pointless & is just a reaction to the "tasted blood" crowd. It's just revenge on a dog that was unfortunate to have an irresponsible owner.

So what do you propose should be done with a dog that has already shown itself willing to slaughter sheep?

Letree · 11-08-2016 10:47AM

Decuc500 wrote: »

Especially Chihuahuas. Those guys are lethal.

I'm sure they cause significant stress to the sheep too. Same applies imo.

Forty sheep killed in dog attack in Co Kerry(Graphic photos in links)

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