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2016 US Presidential Race - Mod Warning in OP

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  • #9512
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    RobertKK wrote: »
    He used a teleprompter, but he was like a natural with it.

    Where's the criticism of the teleprompter? I thought we all hated them. Or is it only when Obama uses them.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #9513
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Fox used to go to town when Obama used a teleprompter.

    Did a nice 180 complimenting Trumps use of it during the RNC.


  • #9514
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,771 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Brian? wrote: »
    Where's the criticism of the teleprompter? I thought we all hated them. Or is it only when Obama uses them.

    I don't care about teleprompters. What is said is what matters, and being able to continue if the teleprompter breaks down.


  • #9515
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I don't care about teleprompters. What is said is what matters, and being able to continue if the teleprompter breaks down.

    Did it break down?


  • #9516
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,771 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Did it break down?


    Not that I know of, presume it all went smoothly.

    The only thing that interrupted the teleprompter were protesters and applause.

    13 women protesters and one man, the man was shouting 'Trump has small hands, Trump has small hands...', Trump just ignored and waited for him to be removed.


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  • #9517
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Brian? wrote: »
    2 men argue in a pub. One man shoots the other. Must be persecution of Trump supporters?

    Therefore violence against Trump supporters does not exist?

    News accounts seem to differ...



    Very interesting... the video is blocked by boards.ie? Let's try it another way...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSVtE82Bkm0


  • #9518
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Sure in the US shooting someone to end an argument is the equivalent of here telling someone to p*** off.


  • #9519
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Amerika wrote: »
    Therefore violence against Trump supporters does not exist?

    News accounts seem to differ...



    Very interesting... the video is blocked by boards.ie? Let's try it another way...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSVtE82Bkm0

    So Trump supporters are an oppressed minority now?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #9520
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Sure in the US shooting someone to end an argument is the equivalent of here telling someone to p*** off.
    You've obviously never been to the US.


  • #9521
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Brian? wrote: »
    So Trump supporters are an oppressed minority now?
    Good observation.


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  • #9522
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Ok folks, can we up the standard a bit again, less of the one liners please.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #9523
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Amerika wrote: »
    You've obviously never been to the US.


    Plenty of times.


  • #9524
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Brian? wrote: »
    Where's the criticism of the teleprompter? I thought we all hated them. Or is it only when Obama uses them.
    The criticism was that Obama exclusively used a teleprompter and was unable to give a speech without one. That he was an empty suit, only parroting what someone else had written for him. Trump can give a speech with or without a teleprompter. Granted, Trump is much better with a teleprompter… when the protesters allow people to actually here what he has to say, that is.


  • #9525
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Plenty of times.
    I've been in fights, lots of arguments, and have told people to pi$$ off, or worse. Never once was a gun pulled. How many times has it happened to you?


  • #9526
    Black Swan
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Je_suis_Jean wrote: »
    I'm surprised the Harvard Republican Club statement that they will not be supporting their own party's nominee hasn't been discussed here.

    Donald Trump holds views that are antithetical to our values not only as Republicans, but as Americans.

    Donald Trump had been awarded an honorary doctorate (DBA) by Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen Scotland in 2010. In late 2015 Robert Gordon University stripped Donald Trump of his doctorate for Republican primary campaign comments "wholly incompatible" with university ethos and values, which were similar reasons why Harvard Republican Club decided not to endorse Donald Trump.


  • #9527
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Donald Trump had been awarded an honorary doctorate (DBA) by Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen Scotland in 2010. In late 2015 Robert Gordon University stripped Donald Trump of his doctorate for Republican primary campaign comments "wholly incompatible" with university ethos and values, which were similar reasons why Harvard Republican Club decided not to endorse Donald Trump.

    Future elite establishment republicans won’t endorse the candidate that fights against the elite republican establishment. Wow!

    A statement from Kirk Jing, president of Harvard Law School’s Republican group regarding Harvard Republican Club’s letter.

    “The Harvard Republican Club speaks for itself, as does their statement." “It fittingly concludes with a fake quote from Tocqueville, misrepresenting both him and Trump to contort reality into fitting ideological clichés. Fortunately, actual Republican voters concluded that elites do not have a right to rule simply because they can recite tired political clichés in lieu of everyday reality.”

    When do you think the Nobel committee will strip Barack Obama of his Nobel Peace Prize?


  • #9528
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    This is starting to get brutal, we are still 3 months off but the gap is just getting bigger and bigger. He'll need a turnaround and soon, because as is Trump is beginning to really flounder.

    Latest poll: Clinton leads Trump by 13 points among likely voters.

    That it is among likely voters is especially more damning on Trump, and if anyone is wondering the pollsters are highly respected, with an A+ rating on Nate Silver's 538.com


  • #9529
    Black Swan
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Amerika wrote: »
    Future elite establishment republicans won’t endorse the candidate that fights against the elite republican establishment. Wow!
    Not only did the Scottish university strip Donald Trump of his honorary doctorate, but he was stripped at the same time of "Business Ambassador for Scotland" by the Scottish Government because Donald Trump was "no longer fit" to represent the country's business interests.


  • #9530
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,771 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Trump during the primaries called Jeb Bush weak and pathetic.
    Now Jeb Bush's son has said it is a bitter pill but he will be supporting Trump.


  • #9531
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/181812278780379137


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  • #9532
    marienbad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Billy86 wrote: »
    This is starting to get brutal, we are still 3 months off but the gap is just getting bigger and bigger. He'll need a turnaround and soon, because as is Trump is beginning to really flounder.

    Latest poll: Clinton leads Trump by 13 points among likely voters.

    That it is among likely voters is especially more damning on Trump, and if anyone is wondering the pollsters are highly respected, with an A+ rating on Nate Silver's 538.com

    Is this keeps up it could lead to a low turnout in the general election and thus reduces the Democrats chances of making gains in the House and Senate


  • #9533
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »
    Therefore violence against Trump supporters does not exist?
    It exists. Just like violence from Trump supporters to Clinton supporters exists. The difference here is, one candidate called for violence and offered to pay the legal fees for their fans who assaulted people, while the other did not.


  • #9534
    B_Wayne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Trump during the primaries called Jeb Bush weak and pathetic.
    Now Jeb Bush's son has said it is a bitter pill but he will be supporting Trump.

    Every living former president, national security directors, advisors, former cabinets and plenty of Republicans oppose Trump. The fact one member of the Bush family supports Trump is neither surprising or significant.

    I'm glad to see he is tanking as I believe having a person who borders upon psychopathy is not a good choice of leader.


  • #9535
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Not only did the Scottish university strip Donald Trump of his honorary doctorate, but he was stripped at the same time of "Business Ambassador for Scotland" by the Scottish Government because Donald Trump was "no longer fit" to represent the country's business interests.

    Not surprising since Trump threatened to pull all investments from Scotland after losing a wind farm battle and Scotland’s threat to not let him in the country. There goes £500 million - from the Menie Estate in Balmedie, Aberdeenshire and £200 million from Turnberry, a golf course in Ayrshire. But I guess they don’t really care about investments, jobs and revenues. The Trump organization is responsible for about 34,000 jobs worldwide and brings in revenues of $9.5 Billion and provides tax revenues to governments. I guess that doesn't fit well with the country's business interests. So, Scotland might prefer Hillary who brings nothing to the table and only knows how to tax and spend. Good for them. I guess they still haven't run out of other people's money, yet.


  • #9536
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »
    The Trump organization is responsible for about 34,000 jobs worldwide
    And yet one of his main campaign talking points is bringing jobs home.


  • #9537
    Black Swan
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Amerika wrote: »
    Not surprising since Trump threatened to pull all investments from Scotland after losing a wind farm battle and Scotland’s threat to not let him in the country. There goes £500 million - from the Menie Estate in Balmedie, Aberdeenshire and £200 million from Turnberry, a golf course in Ayrshire.
    Scotland has principles as a nation, that's why they stripped Donald Trump of both his honorary doctorate and Scotland's Ambassador for Business, suggesting that the Scots cannot be bought by billionaire Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump continues to have problems with principals in his own Republican party. Former Republican Governor of Michigan William Milliken announced that he will not be voting for Donald Trump, for similar reasons why the Harvard Republican Club, Scottish university, and Scottish government do not support him:

    "This nation has long prided itself on its abiding commitments to tolerance, civility and equality. We face a critically important choice in this year's presidential election that will define whether we maintain our commitment to those ideals or embark on a path that has doomed other governments and nations throughout history."


  • #9538
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Indeed, Trump had some history in Scotland with his investments long before his candidacy. A controversial character there to say the least.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #9539
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Scotland has principles as a nation, that's why they stripped Donald Trump of both his honorary doctorate and Scotland's Ambassador for Business, suggesting that the Scots cannot be bought by billionaire Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump continues to have problems with principals in his own Republican party. Former Republican Governor of Michigan William Milliken announced that he will not be voting for Donald Trump, for similar reasons why the Harvard Republican Club, Scottish university, and Scottish government do not support him:

    "This nation has long prided itself on its abiding commitments to tolerance, civility and equality. We face a critically important choice in this year's presidential election that will define whether we maintain our commitment to those ideals or embark on a path that has doomed other governments and nations throughout history."

    If the doomsday scenario happens and Trump becomes president, I’ve got the perfect solution to one of our biggest problems. I’m sure Scotland’s principles line up with Trump’s neighbors there who flew Mexican flags next to his properties when he visited recently. So, in keeping with Scottish principles, president Trump can export all our 11 million illegal aliens to Scotland. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind, cause, you know... principles and all. It will be huugge.

    I even have a slogan for the transfer… “A haggis in every pot and a couple of illegal aliens in every garage.”


  • #9540
    Black Swan
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Amerika wrote: »
    If the doomsday scenario happens and Trump becomes president, I’ve got the perfect solution to one of our biggest problems. I’m sure Scotland’s principles line up with Trump’s neighbors there who flew Mexican flags next to his properties when he visited recently. So, in keeping with Scottish principles, president Trump can export all our 11 million illegal aliens to Scotland. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind, cause, you know... principles and all. It will be huugge.

    I even have a slogan for the transfer… “A haggis in every pot and a couple of illegal aliens in every garage.”
    Is this the type of reasoning used by Donald Trump when addressing US international relations and diplomacy? If so, then all the warnings of the Harvard Republican Club, Scottish university, Scottish government, and former Republican Governor of Michigan have merit.


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  • #9541
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »
    If the doomsday scenario happens and Trump becomes president, I’ve got the perfect solution to one of our biggest problems. I’m sure Scotland’s principles line up with Trump’s neighbors there who flew Mexican flags next to his properties when he visited recently. So, in keeping with Scottish principles, president Trump can export all our 11 million illegal aliens to Scotland. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind, cause, you know... principles and all. It will be huugge.

    I even have a slogan for the transfer… “A haggis in every pot and a couple of illegal aliens in every garage.”

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is a proud representation of a large chunk the Donald Trump fan base.

    No need for reason, no need for evidence of claims, no need for honesty, no need for decency, no need for consistency, no need for diplomacy, no need for economic sense (good luck keeping your country afloat if you dropkick 11mn out all at once! :pac: ), no need for logic, and no need to address the issues.

    Need for insults and trolling though, that's always strong and consistent and very, very necessary. Craved, even. 4chan in adult form.


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