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2016 US Presidential Race - Mod Warning in OP
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Fixed that for youFuture elite establishment well educated republicans won’t endorse the candidate that fights against embarrasses the educated republican establishment. Wow!
A statement from Kirk Jing, president of Harvard Law School’s Republican group regarding Harvard Republican Club’s letter.
“The Harvard Republican Club speaks for itself, as does their statement." “It fittingly concludes with a fake quote from Tocqueville, misrepresenting both him and Trump to contort reality into fitting ideological clichés. Fortunately, actual Republican voters concluded that elites do not have a right to rule simply because they can recite tired political clichés in lieu of everyday reality.”
According to The Harvard Crimson, the Republican Club polled its own members and found only 10 percent of them were willing to vote for Trump while 80 percent were opposed, which prompted the decision to officially stand against him. They’ll be in plentiful company; a recent non-scientific poll of Harvard students suggested just four percent were willing to vote for Trump while 87 percent planned to vote for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/04/harvard-republicans-use-fake-quote-to-trash-trump
Game. Set. Match.
If you can't get more than 10% of your own support base to vote for you (regardless of whether you deem them to be elitist due to the fact they are pursuing a decent education) what chance have you of convincing the rest of the country?
Don't know and don't care.When do you think the Nobel committee will strip Barack Obama of his Nobel Peace Prize?0 -
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Does this also hold true for the "character" of those campaigning for the country's highest office? Donald Trump has condemned US corporations like Ford, Apple, and Carrier for outsourcing jobs to foreign countries where cheaper Ford, Apple, or Carrier parts were made for lower labour costs. According to you earlier in this thread "The Trump organization is responsible for about 34,000 jobs worldwide," representing how many products and services not "Made in America?" Donald Trump ties and suits made in China, dress shirts in China and Bangladesh, furniture, etc., etc., etc., and over 800 items in the Ivanka Trump fashion line "imported."It’s when a country puts its money where its mouth is (so to say) that shows their true character.
"Harvard Trade and Investment Professor Robert Lawrence did a deep dive on the Trump-branded merchandise advertised on Trump.com and found that products made in the U.S. are the exception and not the rule," thereby depriving Americans of those jobs.
And here's the ultimate craic: Donald Trump admits that some of his "Signature Collection" clothing line is Made in Mexico, the same Mexico and its people that Donald Trump has been making so many terrible comments about.
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KingBrian2 wrote: »K-9 I've been called a liar multiple times by someone by the name of Billy on this forum where was the warning given to him during that whole time?:mad:
You're a liar KingBrian2, you were never called a liar multiple times by Billy.
(don't mind a one day ban if that makes you happy KingBrian2, I'm off out for the day anyway
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KingBrian2 wrote: »K-9 I've been called a liar multiple times by someone by the name of Billy on this forum where was the warning given to him during that whole time?:mad:
If you have a problem with a post, report it.Je_suis_Jean wrote: »You're a liar KingBrian2, you were never called a liar multiple times by Billy.
(don't mind a one day ban if that makes you happy KingBrian2, I'm off out for the day anyway)
Banned for one day.We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.
H. H. Asquith
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Black Swan wrote: »Does this also hold true for the "character" of those campaigning for the country's highest office? Donald Trump has condemned US corporations like Ford, Apple, and Carrier for outsourcing jobs to foreign countries where cheaper Ford, Apple, or Carrier parts were made for lower labour costs. According to you earlier in this thread "The Trump organization is responsible for about 34,000 jobs worldwide," representing how many products and services not "Made in America?" Donald Trump ties and suits made in China, dress shirts in China and Bangladesh, furniture, etc., etc., etc., and over 800 items in the Ivanka Trump fashion line "imported."
"Harvard Trade and Investment Professor Robert Lawrence did a deep dive on the Trump-branded merchandise advertised on Trump.com and found that products made in the U.S. are the exception and not the rule," thereby depriving Americans of those jobs.
And here's the ultimate craic: Donald Trump admits that some of his "Signature Collection" clothing line is Made in Mexico, the same Mexico and its people that Donald Trump has been making so many terrible comments about.
I have been in the apparel business most of my adult life (manufacturing, administration, sales and marketing), so I can comment on this with some authority.
It makes nice headlines and talking points to say Trump apparel is made overseas. But it shows ignorance of the industry. More than 90% of apparel and shoes sold in America are made elsewhere. That is because apparel manufacturing, and the trimming industries (buttons, zippers, etc) industries have pretty much all left the country. Sure there are small specialty shops left here, but nothing much. And only a handful of companies make fabric in America anymore.
Once the apparel jobs stopped, the sewing and cutting machinery was sold off to other countries. So we don't even have the capacity to do it anymore.
One of the biggest problem to not being able to manufacture apparel in America is the ability to keep people employed year-round. Fashion is seasonal (Spring and Fall) and the manufacturing cycle runs the same. So you have about 4-5 months worth of good manufacturing and the remainder of the time involves scrambles to find work for the employees. You can’t manufacture much in advance because of ever-changing fashions, styles, fabrics and tastes of the consumer. Cancellation of orders also runs rampant.
Bottom line, you can’t manufacture apparel or footwear on a large scale in the US anymore.
Don’t believe me? If you live here, go out to stores and try and find any apparel for footwear made in the USA. And if on the odd chance you do, check out the prices, because small run and specialty shops that do manufacture apparel and footwear are extremely expensive.
So save me the tired line Trump doesn't make his clothing in the US. Try and go all Made In America for your clothes and footwear and you'll be going naked (which could be a good thing.). 0 -
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I have been in the apparel business most of my adult life (manufacturing, administration, sales and marketing), so I can comment on this with some authority.
It makes nice headlines and talking points to say Trump apparel is made overseas. But it shows ignorance of the industry. More than 90% of apparel and shoes sold in America are made elsewhere. That is because apparel manufacturing, and the trimming industries (buttons, zippers, etc) industries have pretty much all left the country. Sure there are small specialty shops left here, but nothing much. And only a handful of companies make fabric in America anymore.
Once the apparel jobs stopped, the sewing and cutting machinery was sold off to other countries. So we don't even have the capacity to do it anymore.
One of the biggest problem to not being able to manufacture apparel in America is the ability to keep people employed year-round. Fashion is seasonal (Spring and Fall) and the manufacturing cycle runs the same. So you have about 4-5 months worth of good manufacturing and the remainder of the time involves scrambles to find work for the employees. You can’t manufacture much in advance because of ever-changing fashions, styles, fabrics and tastes of the consumer. Cancellation of orders also runs rampant.
Bottom line, you can’t manufacture apparel or footwear on a large scale in the US anymore.
Don’t believe me? If you live here, go out to stores and try and find any apparel for footwear made in the USA. And if on the odd chance you do, check out the prices, because small run and specialty shops that do manufacture apparel and footwear are extremely expensive.
So save me the tired line Trump doesn't make his clothing in the US. Try and go all Made In America for your clothes and footwear and you'll be going naked (which could be a good thing.).
Everything you say about the clothing industry is correct and could be said about several other manufacturing/assembly industries as well but surely the point is that this reality is what Trump is claiming he can change?
The whole, "Bring Manufacturing back to America" is simply a fallacy as you have accurately described for your own industry.
So, the jibes at Trump are not so much for the fact that his clothing lines or other items are made in Mexico or China or wherever , they are for the fact that he is claiming that he can make that different somehow.0 -
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