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Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭TGV


    Best of luck to Waterford today, nothing is impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Block , hook and hurl the 2nd half at double the intensity of 1st half . Give the game your best ever 70 minutes .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭conditioned games


    Very windy today, not good for long distance pot shots or half chances from the corner. Ball will have to be recycled to man in central position if efficiency is to be improved. Could be a day for alot of wides again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,614 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Connor Gleeson for Darragh Fives only change

    Scarce enough crowd here

    Hopefully history will be made by us today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 The Hypnotoad


    Maurice not even wearing a jersey


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  • Posts: 33 [Deleted User]


    Good first half. Every time we make a mistake Kilkenny are punishing us. Dunford miscontrols 2 passes which results in 2 points for the opposition. Would like to see Maurice Patrick curran and Stephen Bennett on for Shane Bennett Dillon and Dunford and really go at Kilkenny from the off in the second half. Great chance here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Jesus you'd be afraid to dream at this stage

    Still think we've a another gear left....we've a strong bench.....lets use it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,970 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    Dunford the only one I'd change at this point. No huge fault of his but two instances of bad control that led to KK points which should likely have been WD points. Come on the deise!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    I'll be sick to my stomach if it kk step up and win easily like last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭carq


    Yup dunford not in the game, should be replaced. His two air catches were costly.

    High quality game, both team ticking away. Waterford finally playing a bit smarter with good balls into the forwards.

    How will they cope with the expected onslaught for next 15 mins?

    Maybe Tom Devine can cause a nuisance on the half forward line


    Edit - Maurice on for dunford


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭carq


    The one that got away I think.

    At least the lads let loose finally and showed that they can cut it.

    Matches kk physically and then some,


  • Posts: 33 [Deleted User]


    We'll done for the great effort but we had the game won and then went back to our old habits of playing with no forwards for the last ten minutes. Crazy, stupid stuff. When will they ever learn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Should have won that, think we will look back thinking that was the one that got away, regardless i am so proud of the lads today, finally they showed what they can produce, they can match with the best of them if they are let loose a bit, crucial moment was the wides when it was 23-20, had we got even 2 of those we'd have closed it out imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    Not sure how we escaped, but that was an incredible performance by Waterford today. Austin Gleeson an absolute colossus.

    If the replay is half as good we'll be spoiled, and may the best team win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭carq


    Time and date of replay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    carq wrote: »
    Time and date of replay?

    Next Saturday, 5pm apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Waterford played well but the usual story of giving away way too many wides just killed it for us In the end, id love us to win next week though. Its more than possible if we have the same hunger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    We really should have won that game, better team for 60 mins, why we retreated like we did near the end idk, will be gutting if we loose the next day, that performance should have seen us into an AI final.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 950 ✭✭✭mickmackmcgoo


    Inexperience is what cost us from players and management. We will learn a lot from it . Fantastic performance and loads to take from it . Now they know they can compete with kk and kick on next weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,614 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Dnt start please

    Disappointed but didn't expect that kind of game from us and was lucky not to win it. We could of lost it near the end after that bloody goal

    Bloody hawkeye overruling our point late in the game

    Possibly we may start our second choice under 21 team on the 20th August with the senior lads coming in later on during the game.

    Imagine a bigger crowd will go to the replay. Would love a double header with Galway and Tipperary but not looking like it now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Ropaire


    We outfought and outmuscled them for 60 mins and played the game the right way, fantastic to see. Shame we tried to shut up shop, should hav shown some belief and seen it out instead of retreating way out the pitch and handing them the initiative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Hslaw


    Jesus lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭Gavlor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,614 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Gavlor wrote: »

    Balls was hoping for another Croke Park trip

    I think there's a camogie AL semi double header in thurles that day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    For anyone who didn't see the game on the telly. When Moran was going for a goal the ball actually game off a Kilkenny man and but was signalled wide.

    Also hogan went over on the ball but Fives was incorrectly penalised for picking the ball off the ground when he didn't.

    Small things but when ya have a tight game drawn like that against KK then it's a bit sickening. That's not to mention the hawk-eye score showing the ball mostly on the inside of the post when it had already been given as a point by the umpire.

    That's a 3 point swing right there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,127 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    O Riain wrote: »
    For anyone who didn't see the game on the telly. When Moran was going for a goal the ball actually game off a Kilkenny man and but was signalled wide.

    Also hogan went over on the ball but Fives was incorrectly penalised for picking the ball off the ground when he didn't.

    Small things but when ya have a tight game drawn like that against KK then it's a bit sickening. That's not to mention the hawk-eye score showing the ball mostly on the inside of the post when it had already been given as a point by the umpire.

    That's a 3 point swing right there.

    Hogan was shouldered in the chest, should have been a free in. Hawkeye was correct, can't understand people complaining that they didn't get a point for a wide. It would be more in Waterford fans way to be asking why they're team referred to negative, defeatist bull**** tactics at the end of the game instead of pushing on and sealing a deserved victory. And maybe asking what was wrong mentally with the team to have so many shocking wides in the last ten minutes. They reverted to type, blaming refs and Hawkeye (blaming Hawkeye for being correct, no less!) is pathetic.

    I said yesterday I wished ye the best and if Kilkenny lost hopefully we wouldn't be on making stupid excuses. I also said ye could win if ye played good attacking hurling. I think I was right on that count. To be fair, on this thread almost everyone is accepting that the match was lost by Waterford (definitely Kilkenny were let off the hook today, ye had us bet no question) on the line and in the head. All I can say is I'd love if your players went away blaming the ref, playing the victim. Then they wouldn't have to bother looking at themselves and their heads would be completely out of it for the next day.

    I doubt that will be the case though. Ye are right to be proud of your players today, they were immense, Gleeson gave a lesson today. They showed they are as good a team of proper hurlers as good as any in the country when they're let hurl. No reason that they can't have the same sheer workrate next week as well. Kilkenny looked heavy and lethargic in comparison, and again no reason for that to change in a week. But your manager is very slow to learn a lesson. What's working? Direct hurling. Great. Well, we're ahead because of it, now I don't have any faith in my lads to push on, better protect the lead. Shock, horror, Kilkenny take full advantage, and dominate while ye get a rake of wides.

    But if ye want to blame the ref, that's great news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭seananigans


    Should have won that, think we will look back thinking that was the one that got away, regardless i am so proud of the lads today, finally they showed what they can produce, they can match with the best of them if they are let loose a bit, crucial moment was the wides when it was 23-20, had we got even 2 of those we'd have closed it out imo.
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    or we could be looking at how much better we were in the final for the extra game to gear up i wouldnt worry so much

    just as i walked in they were playing dont stop believing ,and i thought maybe this is a bad omen, sure enough again the brass band were at it ,didnt seem to phase the team though, a lot of demons put to bed today

    we have them scared cody is 70 minutes away from being the first kk manager to lose to waterford in 57 years we have them at semple, theyre coming to munster, this is our house would be wrong to let them away next time

    time to start believing

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Ropaire


    Hogan was shouldered in the chest, should have been a free in. Hawkeye was correct, can't understand people complaining that they didn't get a point for a wide. It would be more in Waterford fans way to be asking why they're team referred to negative, defeatist bull**** tactics at the end of the game instead of pushing on and sealing a deserved victory. And maybe asking what was wrong mentally with the team to have so many shocking wides in the last ten minutes. They reverted to type, blaming refs and Hawkeye (blaming Hawkeye for being correct, no less!) is pathetic.

    I said yesterday I wished ye the best and if Kilkenny lost hopefully we wouldn't be on making stupid excuses. I also said ye could win if ye played good attacking hurling. I think I was right on that count. To be fair, on this thread almost everyone is accepting that the match was lost by Waterford (definitely Kilkenny were let off the hook today, ye had us bet no question) on the line and in the head. All I can say is I'd love if your players went away blaming the ref, playing the victim. Then they wouldn't have to bother looking at themselves and their heads would be completely out of it for the next day.

    I doubt that will be the case though. Ye are right to be proud of your players today, they were immense, Gleeson gave a lesson today. They showed they are as good a team of proper hurlers as good as any in the country when they're let hurl. No reason that they can't have the same sheer workrate next week as well. Kilkenny looked heavy and lethargic in comparison, and again no reason for that to change in a week. But your manager is very slow to learn a lesson. What's working? Direct hurling. Great. Well, we're ahead because of it, now I don't have any faith in my lads to push on, better protect the lead. Shock, horror, Kilkenny take full advantage, and dominate while ye get a rake of wides.

    But if ye want to blame the ref, that's great news.

    I thought the ref had a good game to be fair, there was no bad decisions that spring to mind now and usually any wrong decisions balance themselves out over the game.

    I don't think we lost anything in our heads though, i think we threw away the lead retreating out the field and I'd lay the blame for that on management. Forget this trying to be cute and close it out, it was stupid to invite Kilkenny onto us and it cost us a well deserved win. We have the younger legs and more strength in depth, play the same direct kind of game on Sat but for the full 70 and it's ours for the taking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    Ropaire wrote: »
    I thought the ref had a good game to be fair, there was no bad decisions that spring to mind now and usually any wrong decisions balance themselves out over the game.

    I don't think we lost anything in our heads though, i think we threw away the lead retreating out the field and I'd lay the blame for that on management. Forget this trying to be cute and close it out, it was stupid to invite Kilkenny onto us and it cost us a well deserved win. We have the younger legs and more strength in depth, play the same direct kind of game on Sat but for the full 70 and it's ours for the taking.

    Agreed, you controlled the game from start to finish and the only reason you didn't win was because you took a step back at the death.

    It was a game the championship needed, nothing like a top class game of hurling.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Ropaire wrote: »
    i think we threw away the lead retreating out the field and I'd lay the blame for that on management.
    Heard on the radio there that McGrath was actually encouraging them forward in the last few mins, not sure how accurate that is.


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