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Hostage situation in French church

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  • #752
    boat_builder
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭boat_builder


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    why would we want to do that?

    self preservation


  • #753
    unseenfootage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭unseenfootage


    boat_builder wrote: »
    so you wish to see the culture of ireland changed ?

    I am a big fan of diversity, especially in Ireland.
    If it weren't for diversity.
    The Irish would still be eating bacon, cabbage and potato.


  • #754
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    boat_builder wrote: »
    self preservation


    why, are they going to wipe us out?


  • #755
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    unseenfootage wrote: »
    I am a big fan of diversity, especially in Ireland.
    If it weren't for diversity.
    The Irish would still be eating bacon, cabbage and potato.

    Ireland is already diverse and already has a very large muslim population too.


  • #756
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    well no, if you propose a major change in social policy there has to be a good reason for it. you dont just do it for the craic.

    Sorry but I thought it was self evident. Islam is a backward, primitive, repressive and often downright nasty ideology that is incompatible with western values.

    Why we'd want to import that is beyond me Sir.


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  • #757
    boat_builder
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭boat_builder


    unseenfootage wrote: »
    I am a big fan of diversity, especially in Ireland.
    If it weren't for diversity.
    The Irish would still be eating bacon, cabbage and potato.

    really , do is the menu in japan extremely limited ? , japan is in no way diverse compared to the usa or western europe

    what is so inherently great about diversity , i realise liberals believe in it in the way devout catholics believe in transubutation but seriously , what is so inherently good about it ?


  • #758
    boat_builder
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭boat_builder


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    why, are they going to wipe us out?

    you dont think if the muslim population of ireland reached above 10% ( for example ) , the charechter of the nation would change ?


  • #759
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    unseenfootage wrote: »
    I am a big fan of diversity, especially in Ireland.If it weren't for diversity.The Irish would still be eating bacon, cabbage and potato.

    That's fair enough. Where's the cut off point though? Large areas in England have lost all semblance of native culture and are now like mini Arab states. We've got 100k of them already. Isn't that enough?


  • #760
    boat_builder
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    Jesus. wrote: »
    That's fair enough. Where's the cut off point though? Large areas in England have lost all semblance of native culture and are now like mini Arab states. We've got 100k of them already. Isn't that enough?

    thats the thing about creeds ( diversity is a liberal creed ) , you just take it for granted that they are good , you never stop to think are they positive ?


  • #761
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Jesus. wrote: »
    That's fair enough. Where's the cut off point though? Large areas in England have lost all semblance of native culture and are now like mini Arab states. We've got 100k of them already. Isn't that enough?


    Muslim <> Arab. and vice versa.


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  • #762
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    boat_builder wrote: »
    you dont think if the muslim population of ireland reached above 10% ( for example ) , the charechter of the nation would change ?

    Is the character of our nation set in stone? should it not reflect its citizens?


  • #763
    unseenfootage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭unseenfootage


    boat_builder wrote: »
    really , do is the menu in japan extremely limited ? , japan is in no way diverse compared to the usa or western europe

    what is so inherently great about diversity , i realise liberals believe in it in the way devout catholics believe in transubutation but seriously , what is so inherently good about it ?

    Japanese culture dates back thousands of years and has probably assimilated regional traditions from China, Korea, Vietnam etc, which is why it is so rich. There is some diversity. Japan borrows heavily from America and Europe.
    It is not as diverse as USA and Western Europe but that's most likely because they have never had to rely very much on immigration since they have a strong and productive workforce.


  • #764
    Crann na Beatha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • #765
    boat_builder
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Is the character of our nation set in stone? should it not reflect its citizens?

    are you saying if the muslim population of ireland reached a level where support for sharia law was a demand , we should put in place policy to reflect this ?


  • #766
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JT26 wrote: »
    Why is it food is always used as a positive for multiculturalism?

    as someone who grew at a time when spaghetti only came from a tin i welcome anybody who can open a decent restaurant.


  • #767
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    JT26 wrote: »
    Why is it food is always used as a positive for multiculturalism?

    Because if a white European enjoys spicy and exotic fruit and vegetables it shows as a major success for multiculturalism no idea why some people would use it as a benchmark ,
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  • #768
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    boat_builder wrote: »
    are you saying if the muslim population of ireland reached a level where support for sharia law was a demand , we should put in place policy to reflect this ?


    that is not what i'm saying at all. sharia law would be unconstitutional. the constitution can only change when a majority of the population are in favour.


  • #769
    boat_builder
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    that is not what i'm saying at all. sharia law would be unconstitutional. the constitution can only change when a majority of the population are in favour.

    why take the risk of allowing the conditions for the muslim population to reach a level where sharia law was demanded by the majority of the population ?


  • #770
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    JT26 wrote: »
    Why is it food is always used as a positive for multiculturalism?

    Because it's the only one they can come up with and after that they get a bit stuck?

    Isn't a decent lamb tagine worth the odd massacre though?


  • #771
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    boat_builder wrote: »
    why take the risk of allowing the conditions for the muslim population to reach a level where sharia law was demanded by the majority of the population ?

    when do you think this is likely to happen?


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  • #772
    RustyNut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    boat_builder wrote: »
    you dont think if the muslim population of ireland reached above 10% ( for example ) , the charechter of the nation would change ?

    The character of the nation is constantly changing.


  • #773
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Isn't sharia law already part of the constitutions in some non-muslim majority countries ? E.G Britain and Canada ? Or at least there is a major push for it.


  • #774
    boat_builder
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    when do you think this is likely to happen?

    if it takes two hundred years , its too soon


  • #775
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    boat_builder wrote: »
    if it takes two hundred years , its too soon


    so we should ban all muslim immigration now then, just to be sure? should we ban all non-catholic immigration then?


  • #776
    RustyNut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Widdershins wrote: »
    Isn't sharia law already part of the constitutions in some non-mus majority countries ? E.G Britain and Canada ? Or at least there is a major push for it.

    Your just making stuff up now. Britain doesn't have a written constitution.


  • #777
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Widdershins wrote: »
    Isn't sharia law already part of the constitutions in some non-mus majority countries ? E.G Britain and Canada ? Or at least there is a major push for it.

    What are you on about?


  • #778
    boat_builder
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭boat_builder


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    so we should ban all muslim immigration now then, just to be sure? should we ban all non-catholic immigration then?

    we should strictly limit muslim immigration , no other religion is a major problem right now

    its common sense , security is more important than political correctness , well to everyone accept the media


  • #779
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    boat_builder wrote: »
    we should strictly limit muslim immigration , no other religion is a major problem right now

    its common sense , security is more important than political correctness , well to everyone accept the media


    what problem is our muslim population causing us?


  • #780
    RustyNut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    what problem is our muslim population causing us?

    Much the same problems that us Irish were causing when the provos were bombing the Uk, killing turists in Holland lobing morters in Germany etc. At least the British Dutch Germans didnt make the logical fail of thinking that because the bomber is irish that all Irish are bombers.


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  • #781
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    RustyNut wrote: »
    Your just making stuff up now. Britain doesn't have a written constitution.

    I was asking . I'm not an expert . I have read about provision for muslims tradition regarding making wills for example . I made nothing up .


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