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Hostage situation in French church

Bob24

Just saw the priest, two nuns, and 2 followers are currently being held hostage in a church in France.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-hostages-idUSKCN1060VA

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/07/26/97001-20160726FILWWW00078-prise-d-otage-en-cours-dans-une-eglise-de-saint-etienne-du-rouvray-seine-maritime.php

Hopefully not yet another terrorist attack :-/

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boat_builder

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why would we want to do that?

self preservation

unseenfootage

boat_builder wrote: »

so you wish to see the culture of ireland changed ?

I am a big fan of diversity, especially in Ireland.
If it weren't for diversity.
The Irish would still be eating bacon, cabbage and potato.

ohnonotgmail

boat_builder wrote: »

self preservation

why, are they going to wipe us out?

Widdershins

unseenfootage wrote: »

I am a big fan of diversity, especially in Ireland.
If it weren't for diversity.
The Irish would still be eating bacon, cabbage and potato.

Ireland is already diverse and already has a very large muslim population too.

Jesus.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well no, if you propose a major change in social policy there has to be a good reason for it. you dont just do it for the craic.

Sorry but I thought it was self evident. Islam is a backward, primitive, repressive and often downright nasty ideology that is incompatible with western values.

Why we'd want to import that is beyond me Sir.

boat_builder

unseenfootage wrote: »

I am a big fan of diversity, especially in Ireland.
If it weren't for diversity.
The Irish would still be eating bacon, cabbage and potato.

really , do is the menu in japan extremely limited ? , japan is in no way diverse compared to the usa or western europe

what is so inherently great about diversity , i realise liberals believe in it in the way devout catholics believe in transubutation but seriously , what is so inherently good about it ?

boat_builder

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why, are they going to wipe us out?

you dont think if the muslim population of ireland reached above 10% ( for example ) , the charechter of the nation would change ?

Jesus.

unseenfootage wrote: »

I am a big fan of diversity, especially in Ireland.If it weren't for diversity.The Irish would still be eating bacon, cabbage and potato.

That's fair enough. Where's the cut off point though? Large areas in England have lost all semblance of native culture and are now like mini Arab states. We've got 100k of them already. Isn't that enough?

boat_builder

Jesus. wrote: »

That's fair enough. Where's the cut off point though? Large areas in England have lost all semblance of native culture and are now like mini Arab states. We've got 100k of them already. Isn't that enough?

thats the thing about creeds ( diversity is a liberal creed ) , you just take it for granted that they are good , you never stop to think are they positive ?

ohnonotgmail

Jesus. wrote: »

That's fair enough. Where's the cut off point though? Large areas in England have lost all semblance of native culture and are now like mini Arab states. We've got 100k of them already. Isn't that enough?

Muslim <> Arab. and vice versa.

ohnonotgmail

boat_builder wrote: »

you dont think if the muslim population of ireland reached above 10% ( for example ) , the charechter of the nation would change ?

Is the character of our nation set in stone? should it not reflect its citizens?

unseenfootage

boat_builder wrote: »

really , do is the menu in japan extremely limited ? , japan is in no way diverse compared to the usa or western europe

what is so inherently great about diversity , i realise liberals believe in it in the way devout catholics believe in transubutation but seriously , what is so inherently good about it ?

Japanese culture dates back thousands of years and has probably assimilated regional traditions from China, Korea, Vietnam etc, which is why it is so rich. There is some diversity. Japan borrows heavily from America and Europe.
It is not as diverse as USA and Western Europe but that's most likely because they have never had to rely very much on immigration since they have a strong and productive workforce.

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boat_builder

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Is the character of our nation set in stone? should it not reflect its citizens?

are you saying if the muslim population of ireland reached a level where support for sharia law was a demand , we should put in place policy to reflect this ?

ohnonotgmail

JT26 wrote: »

Why is it food is always used as a positive for multiculturalism?

as someone who grew at a time when spaghetti only came from a tin i welcome anybody who can open a decent restaurant.

Gatling

JT26 wrote: »

Why is it food is always used as a positive for multiculturalism?

Because if a white European enjoys spicy and exotic fruit and vegetables it shows as a major success for multiculturalism no idea why some people would use it as a benchmark ,

ohnonotgmail

boat_builder wrote: »

are you saying if the muslim population of ireland reached a level where support for sharia law was a demand , we should put in place policy to reflect this ?

that is not what i'm saying at all. sharia law would be unconstitutional. the constitution can only change when a majority of the population are in favour.

boat_builder

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that is not what i'm saying at all. sharia law would be unconstitutional. the constitution can only change when a majority of the population are in favour.

why take the risk of allowing the conditions for the muslim population to reach a level where sharia law was demanded by the majority of the population ?

conorhal

JT26 wrote: »

Why is it food is always used as a positive for multiculturalism?

Because it's the only one they can come up with and after that they get a bit stuck?

Isn't a decent lamb tagine worth the odd massacre though?

ohnonotgmail

boat_builder wrote: »

why take the risk of allowing the conditions for the muslim population to reach a level where sharia law was demanded by the majority of the population ?

when do you think this is likely to happen?

RustyNut

boat_builder wrote: »

you dont think if the muslim population of ireland reached above 10% ( for example ) , the charechter of the nation would change ?

The character of the nation is constantly changing.

Widdershins

Isn't sharia law already part of the constitutions in some non-muslim majority countries ? E.G Britain and Canada ? Or at least there is a major push for it.

boat_builder

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

when do you think this is likely to happen?

if it takes two hundred years , its too soon

ohnonotgmail

boat_builder wrote: »

if it takes two hundred years , its too soon

so we should ban all muslim immigration now then, just to be sure? should we ban all non-catholic immigration then?

RustyNut

Widdershins wrote: »

Isn't sharia law already part of the constitutions in some non-mus majority countries ? E.G Britain and Canada ? Or at least there is a major push for it.

Your just making stuff up now. Britain doesn't have a written constitution.

Bubbaclaus

Widdershins wrote: »

Isn't sharia law already part of the constitutions in some non-mus majority countries ? E.G Britain and Canada ? Or at least there is a major push for it.

What are you on about?

boat_builder

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so we should ban all muslim immigration now then, just to be sure? should we ban all non-catholic immigration then?

we should strictly limit muslim immigration , no other religion is a major problem right now

its common sense , security is more important than political correctness , well to everyone accept the media

ohnonotgmail

boat_builder wrote: »

we should strictly limit muslim immigration , no other religion is a major problem right now

its common sense , security is more important than political correctness , well to everyone accept the media

what problem is our muslim population causing us?

RustyNut

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what problem is our muslim population causing us?

Much the same problems that us Irish were causing when the provos were bombing the Uk, killing turists in Holland lobing morters in Germany etc. At least the British Dutch Germans didnt make the logical fail of thinking that because the bomber is irish that all Irish are bombers.

Widdershins

RustyNut wrote: »

Your just making stuff up now. Britain doesn't have a written constitution.

I was asking . I'm not an expert . I have read about provision for muslims tradition regarding making wills for example . I made nothing up .