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Hostage situation in French church

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    only you can explain why you are afraid.

    But I'm not ? You seem strange .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    your percentage is out by a factor of 10. its only slightly less than the population of cork so not an insubstantial number. and certainly not f*ck all.

    0.08%. France's is 10%. It is indeed fukk all. Whatever the Japs are doing its working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    But I'm not ? You seem strange .

    i am under no illusions to the contrary. not relevant here though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    i am under no illusions to the contrary. not relevant here though.

    Ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,226 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Very extreme solution you have there but I want to know.

    Many of the asylum seekers are Christians, fleeing the M.E or places like Eritrea.

    We ship them back too right, or just the Muslims?

    Nice try at the old label him an islamophobe.:rolleyes:

    They should still apply through normal channels.
    Yes they should be given precedence in applications because they are one of the minorities just like say Jews, Yazidis, Armenians, Alawites, etc.

    But they have to prove somehow they are law abiding.
    no it's possibly reality sadly.

    what you actually mean is "they're are extremist solutions but governments won't implement my extremist wishlist" because "liberal left/do gooders rabel rabel" and all the other terms from the bigot book.

    There are not just my solutions.
    Of course we can implement nothing, but throwing out the welcome matt and blaming ourselves for non integration ala yourself.
    See how well that has worked out.
    Perhaps you can lecture some people in France about your solutions as they await the next attack.
    wrong. they won't be giving up. using force will legitimize any reaction back from them.

    Well then if they use force to try and get in, it shows they shouldn't be coming in at all, DOH.
    can't be done, it is against human rights to go against the court of human rights. and only terrorist states would do so.

    I think it is time we put the rights of our citizens ahead of the rights of terrorists or would be terrorists.

    can't be done, they have to be tried in a court using evidence and found guilty of the crime.

    Interment can be done and has been done.
    It may not always be successful.
    Membership or association with terrorist organisations can lead one to being imprisoned and if it did in the case of Adel K an elderly gentleman would be alive today in France.
    irrelevant nonsense. if they are at risk of being shot then they can't be deported. in fact, if they are a violent criminal then keeping them locked up in europe is doing a service to the rest of the world.

    Why can't they be deported ?
    Laws can easily be changed and put aside in event of the greater good.

    What about when they finish their sentence in Europe, should we have to pay for their rehabilitation and have to pay the price for any future crimes?

    that is because it is extremist. i will not be giving up any human rights or other rights for protection from the government. i would rather be blown to bits. it's a secular tolerent equal society with full rights and freedoms, or nothing. that's the choice. your extremist suggestions are not a choice.

    I couldn't give two sh**s if you and your fellow thinkers don't mind being blown up.

    But I do care about other people and whether or not they are at risk. And get this, more and more people are being to have my point of view.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Jesus. wrote: »
    0.08%. France's is 10%. It is indeed fukk all. Whatever the Japs are doing its working.


    but they are not "doing" anything. they do not have a ban on muslim immigrants. perhaps its the tentacle pr0n that keeps muslims away. maybe we should give it is a shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Why are there fukk all Muslims in Japan?

    Well it certainly has nothing to do with their immigration policy.

    Why are there fukk all muslims in Greenland?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    We need to only look to the Ulster Plantation and our own history to see how small minorities have managed to cause destruction, death and misery for the much larger native population. The Indian Native Americans in America also didn't fare too well when hordes of Europeans landed into their country. I predict Islamic Terror will strike this country within 2-3 years especially when you see the hate preached from the Clonskeagh Mosque and other Wahhabi institutions of hate speech. If an institution was setup preaching death to Protestants, Jews, Blacks or Asians etc. it would be rightly shutdown and publicly ostracised so why do we allow and tolerate Islam? It is not a religion it is a Political Racist Xenophobic Misogynistic movement of hate which spreads intolerance and terrorism. This is what Islam is really about if you read and follow the holy book the Koran, those terrorists are only following the Koran. These people want to exterminate us yet apologists and the Politically Correct left-wing liberals keep defending them. I'm by no means right wing but I know whats right and wrong and whats happening in Ireland and across Europe now is an invasion and war against Christian European values and is a racist war.

    What happens is they're quiet and are not a nuisance when they're small but when they reach a critical mass like 5% they then bare their teeth. They've reached that level in the UK and they're causing all sorts of problems there. Our Government should set down a policy that limits the amount of Muslims that can ever live here or, as you say, it will turn ugly here too eventually.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    but they are not "doing" anything. they do not have a ban on muslim immigrants. perhaps its the tentacle pr0n that keeps muslims away. maybe we should give it is a shot.


    :pac:


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dav3 wrote: »
    Why are there fukk all muslims in Greenland?
    20+ hours of sunrise? They probably all died during the last Ramadan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭unseenfootage


    dav3 wrote: »
    Well it certainly has nothing to do with their immigration policy.

    Why are there fukk all muslims in Greenland?

    Apart from the refugees, immigrants tend to be mostly doctors, IT professionals, students and restaurant owners/workers.

    Japan is historically xenophobic and racist, especially against Chinese, Koreans and Black people.

    Quite astonishing that some posters are using Japan as an exemplar of what Ireland's immigration policy should be like.

    Also, their whole understanding of Japan re: Muslim immigration is based on myths.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Apart from the refugees, immigrants tend to be mostly doctors, IT professionals, students and restaurant owners/workers.Japan is historically xenophobic and racist, especially against Chinese, Koreans and Black people. Quite astonishing that some posters are using Japan as an exemplar of what Ireland's immigration policy should be like.
    Also, their whole understanding of Japan re: Muslim immigration is based on myths.

    Okay, how do you propose we stop Muslim immigration to Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭unseenfootage


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Okay, how do you propose we stop Muslim immigration to Ireland?

    Why would I wan't to propose that?
    I am not a racist, nor an Islamophobe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Okay, how do you propose we stop Muslim immigration to Ireland?


    stop muslim immigration or stop terrorists from immigrating?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 boat_builder


    would you consider approximately 100,000 to be f*ck all?

    its less than 0.001 % of the population


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Why would I wan't to propose that?
    I am not a racist, nor an Islamophobe.

    What has racism got to do with it?

    Why aren't you an Islamophobe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Jesus. wrote: »
    What happens is they're quiet and are not a nuisance when they're small but when they reach a critical mass like 5% they then bare their teeth. They've reached that level in the UK and they're causing all sorts of problems there. Our Government should set down a policy that limits the amount of Muslims that can ever live here or, as you say, it will turn ugly here too eventually.

    Dr Ali Selem of the Clonskeagh mosque and many others support Sharia law being introduced in Ireland when the population of Muslims rises significantly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    stop muslim immigration or stop terrorists from immigrating?

    Stop Muslim immigration


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Okay, how do you propose we stop Muslim immigration to Ireland?

    why would you? Do you actually know any Muslims? You do realise they're just people. They don't breath fire or anything,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 boat_builder


    Jesus. wrote: »
    0.08%. France's is 10%. It is indeed fukk all. Whatever the Japs are doing its working.

    japan has a population of 126 million , one hundred thousand as a percentage of is less than one tenth of one percent


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    its less than 0.001 % of the population

    somebody else not so good at the ol' percentages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Stop Muslim immigration

    why would we want to do that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    japan has a population of 126 million , one hundred thousand as a percentage of is less than one tenth of one percent

    So 100k muslims aren't potential terrorists if there's a lot more japanese people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭unseenfootage


    People can't even count properly yet they wan't to devise immigration policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Grayson wrote: »
    So 100k muslims aren't potential terrorists if there's a lot more japanese people?

    maybe japan get all the good muslims? :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    why would we want to do that?

    Why wouldn't we?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 boat_builder


    Why would I wan't to propose that?
    I am not a racist, nor an Islamophobe.

    so you wish to see the culture of ireland changed ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Why wouldn't we?

    well no, if you propose a major change in social policy there has to be a good reason for it. you dont just do it for the craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Grayson wrote: »
    So 100k muslims aren't potential terrorists if there's a lot more japanese people?

    Japan has had it's own violent cults to contend with . Loads of posters have outlined the reasons for their opposition to mass immigration from Islamic cultures and serious red flags from existing mosques in Ireland . You don't have to agree with opposition to mass immigration, but what's the point of you and the couple of others asking again why other people do oppose it?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 boat_builder


    Grayson wrote: »
    why would you? Do you actually know any Muslims? You do realise they're just people. They don't breath fire or anything,

    the nazis were people too , as were the khymer rouge , most muslims are not violent but neither are most muslims identical in outlook to most irish people or danes or new zealanders , if they were , we could point to one predominantly muslim nation which is similar to the likes of new zealand or canada in charechter


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