Hostage situation in French church

Based on statistics, the EU population is 740 million, 2% is Muslim which is roughly 14.8 million.
Do people really think that 14.8 million people are bad and are going to commit a crime? if this was the case then we will see 100 attacks everyday.

Common sense and logic should be used, the recent terrorist attacks were carried by well known Jihadists/Radical Muslims or by people with a mental illness (regardless of where they were born or raised).

How can a well known radical Muslim, who is under house arrest and wearing a bracelet leave his home without being flagged??

How can 500 thousands refugees get lost in Germany without knowing their whereabouts??

The authorities, police, intelligence services are so fragile and inefficient, they are not well organised and this is scary, not only because of radical Muslims but because of crimes overall.

The punishment is never severe and a lot of criminals get away with small prison terms (Regardless of the crime, murder, rape, violence against children and so on....)

Each time there is an attack I see tweets and comments by different politicians, presidents and ministers with a copy and paste message "We stand with ******* in these difficult times".

I haven't seen any real action (I am not talking about rounding up Muslims and sending them back somewhere as this is not a solution at all) nor have I seen any real change in laws, procedures, border control, increase intelligence services, robust actions against radical Muslims and criminals overall.

The actions taken so far are increase military presence in key areas in the country (well it didn't help at all) and paying Turkey 6 Billions, which will turn to 20 Billions knowing the EU politicians, in order to do the dirty work and to house refugees.

Russia was targeting ISIS and rebels as well in order to put Assad back in charge, Syria is a country that needs a president dictator to rule and to restore order, why the Western politicians didn't work hand in hand with Russia, or at least target the same areas??

Trump might be elected, Far right is in the rise in Europe, Division will start in Europe and racism will overtake, and beware, it's going to start with racism against Muslims and then it will turn to racism against homosexuals, Buddhists, we will see Catholics versus protestants, and finally racism against each other based on the name, where we are from and so on.....as it stands the future doesn't look good.

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'd imagine he was talking about Halawa and Selim. The Imam of Blanch tried to organise a march for peace against ISIS, a member of his mosque was battered in Clonskeagh Mosque for handing out flyers.

Yes I remember that part with the flyers . Brave man .

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/mosque-assault-2241857-Jul2015/

Shaykh Dr Muhammad Umar Al-Qadri is the man who should be the spiritual leader for Muslims in Ireland.

I agree . One thing though ..''Shaykh Umar said that he had also met a man in his 30s who similarly wanted to travel to fight, but that he was unaware if the man had done so or not.''. Shouldn't he have reported it?

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/mosque-assault-2241857-Jul2015/

Shaykh Dr Muhammad Umar Al-Qadri is the man who should be the spiritual leader for Muslims in Ireland.

Interesting.

Should Archibishop Michael Jackson be made the leader of all Christians/Catholics in Ireland?

Mary63 wrote: »

just quietly put a bullet in their heads and disappear them somewhere.

can't be done, murder is illegal and against one's human rights.

Mary63 wrote: »

If their purpose is to hurt me or my family I am happy for the European countries to pull the trigger.

what trigger

FalconGirl wrote: »

****ing cowardly bastards!!!! This cannot be allowed become the norm, no matter what the apologists say. It must be met with outrage every time.

what/which "apologists"

anewme wrote: »

Oh, so it's ok so.

Sorry but it's not ok.

who said it was? stop imagining things and read what was actually written

Bambi wrote: »

Leveling the entire middle east would'nt work

A quick reminder that europe can level the most of the middle east if it wants might not go amiss. A few wahabbi loony tune strongholds being flattened would send a message

Might soften a few coughs among Americas arab "allies" that are bankrolling the Wahabbi crusade

wrong.
A few "wahabbi loony tune strongholds" being flattened won't send a message.

it won't soften a few coughs among Americas arab "allies" that are bankrolling the Wahabbi crusade

anyone who believes otherwise is beyond delusianel and needs a reality check

Bambi wrote: »

A quick reminder that europe can level the most of the middle east if it wants might not go amiss. A few wahabbi loony tune strongholds being flattened would send a message

Might soften a few coughs among Americas arab "allies" that are bankrolling the Wahabbi crusade

Bit of an issue with that - we like to believe we're beyond war crimes. People would protest if the armies of various countries started flattening towns and wiping out families, killing babies and elderly indiscriminately. And there's the whole angry young recruits wanting revenge against the people who murdered their familes and friends meaning a big popularity boost as well.

Possibly tempting but ultimately it'd be regretted.

BBC2 NOW.
Worth a watch .

The_Mac wrote: »

Tiny percentage my ass, look at the statistics on how many support Sharia Law.

Tiny percentage fact. supporting Sharia law is simply supporting Sharia law. i don't like it either but supporting it doesn't make 1 a terrorist. try again

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It's a great insight . They seem like really nice people.
It hammers home the fact that it's only a tiny percent of Muslims that are radicalized terrorists.

They're not that different to us. Conservative in appearance and observant in their worship, but beyond that they all want the same as us. Peace, happiness and prosperity.

RobertKK wrote: »

I was watching France 24. The priest was in that village all his life so everyone knew him, performed the marriages for most of the people in the village, baptised their children and everyone loved him saying he was a good person.
In France as well as the attack being seen as an attack on Catholics, it is also being viewed as an attack on rural France.

The French Catholic church are having a day of mourning and have asked French Catholics to pray and fast today Wednesday.

People are shocked when major cities are hit by terrorist attacks, but the attack yesterday happened in a location no one would have thought would be a target, against a target that shocked Catholics and non Catholics alike. Attacking an elderly man who would have been defenseless and made kneel before the altar he served his parishioners for decades and then martyred.

One member of the French government said the terrorists want to start a religious war.
Wars are for national governments, the French church won't be starting any religious wars, praying and fasting is the best response responding to violence with non violence means.
I just wonder if daily mass in France will need armed security.

I'm hoping to see Pope Francis ride into Syria on a horse with a sword and a shield like the good old crusading days.