Explosion in bar in Ansbach, Germany

HensVassal · 25-07-2016 11:41AM

topper75 wrote: »

The boost in numbers in Limerick is quite something in the last 12 months.

I wandered through the People's Park yesterday. I wasn't counting with my abacus or anything but I'd estimate 80-90% of the park users were either olive-skinned or in Islamic dress. The kids communicated with each other in English. So at least there was some effort at integration going on.

Much of this strange phenomenon (the disproportionate representation) though could probably be down to folk of these lands used to living an outdoor life in warmer countries. The native Irish prefer to be inside.

I don't mind so long as they all behave peacefully. I WOULD take issue with the burkha. I saw one in the Crescent on Saturday and pondered how I would be treated as a male marching in there in an IRA-style balaclava.

Is there a special case in principle if that is 'what Allah has commanded'? I think we should move to ban face coverings of all sorts whilst we are early doors on this.

How would you feel if you were to go to a society where the women generally walked around topless and wearing other very revealing clothes. You arrive with your dress and bra on and they ban it saying you shouldn't have to cover yourself up in such a medieval way?

Herb Powell · 25-07-2016 11:46AM

HensVassal wrote: »

Then you know how to make one? Because if not then you can't say with any degree of confidence how easy it is.

Yes I can ffs.

These kinds of devices are so fecking common, I'm sure it's the same lad with a PhD making them all :rolleyes:

You can google it, if you don't mind being on a list, but explosives really are not very hard to make at all.

Dyr · 25-07-2016 11:47AM

HensVassal wrote: »

How would you feel if you were to go to a society where the women generally walked around topless and wearing other very revealing clothes. You arrive with your dress and bra on and they ban it saying you shouldn't have to cover yourself up in such a medieval way?

I'd probably get with the program seeing as how I knew when I got there that was the deal in those societies or if i didn't like it I'd f**k off back to where i came from.

HensVassal · 25-07-2016 11:48AM

Bambi wrote: »

Why do they have to stay at home

The thing that cracked me up about the whole "you wouldnt be on a raft in the med unless it was safer than home" meme was when they found that poor wee kid who drowned as a poster boy it turned out his family were doing a bunk from turkey, while kurds who were worth a **** were actually fighting ISIS back in their home town.

My brother was in Turkey when that little boy was photographed face down dead in the water. HYe was speaking to some Kurds who told him that that was a daily occurrence for them. So much for the media doing their jobs.

jmayo · 25-07-2016 11:48AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Can the mods merge these into one large terrorist attack mega thread?

Why ?
Is it becoming inconvenient that we have so many threads to highlight the number of terrorist attacks.

Why not show the number of attacks and let the world see where Europe has not gotten itself ?

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I wonder do the people blaming migrants even realise that most of the attacks in the last year were done/prepared by European born people.

'Deport the migrants' doesn't solve that.

Maybe deporting the migrants, most of whom are single adult males with absolutely no connection to Syria or Iraq, might be seen as not adding to the problem rather than solving it.

We in Europe have a problem with disgruntled young males of a muslim background who feel they do not fit in and that their believes are not catered for and have a major gripe with the secular western society in which they live.
And you think that adding in even more young disgruntled young adult males with the same backward views and beliefs might not be adding to the fecking problem.

Give us a break FFS.

Widdershins · 25-07-2016 11:50AM

Women didn't invent the burqa .A woman wouldn't wear one if she hadn't been indoctrinated from childhood and it means little to say she wears it of her own volition . All that means is she isn't railing against it or does not realise she was brainwashed . I have a lovely photo somewhere of desert sand strewn with burqas after the region was liberated and another of two beaming women stepping out of the things .

Widdershins · 25-07-2016 11:53AM

HensVassal wrote: »

How would you feel if you were to go to a society where the women generally walked around topless and wearing other very revealing clothes. You arrive with your dress and bra on and they ban it saying you shouldn't have to cover yourself up in such a medieval way?

that would be nonsense and no such place exists except on the set of a miley cyrus video . in the west our style of dress is a reasonably happy medium and it's practical . No uniform for women.

Walter H Price · 25-07-2016 11:53AM

HensVassal wrote: »

How would you feel if you were to go to a society where the women generally walked around topless and wearing other very revealing clothes. You arrive with your dress and bra on and they ban it saying you shouldn't have to cover yourself up in such a medieval way?

Depnends id is it cold or are we in the middle of the Fk**g deset , i know my Fiance wears pretty much only a bikin when wer on hoildays , or a Bikini top and shorts. Dont think being covered head to toe in black would be too comfy

Also how is a dress medievil ? like come on your clutching at straws here

and lastly no one asked them to come , this is how we live in Europe if they want to live here then they should want to live in our culture embrace it etc , if they want to live a Sharia islamic lifestyle thats ok but stay in the middle east.

Because if i go to Dubi or Saudi i cant very well walk around with my Fiance in her Bikin slugging a beer if i so choose or get a bit frisky in a taxi or a public park. we have to live by their rules in the middle east it should be a two way street .

No Burkas , No Niquabs , No Halal and No Shariah in Europe thanks very much

HensVassal · 25-07-2016 11:54AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

It's illegal to uncover your hair in Saudi Arabia and Iran, the two powers of the Sunni and Shia sects respectively.

Both places are religious theocracies. You can dress as you please in most other Muslims countries from Morocco to Indonesia.

Did you ever see the duds that Hisitic Jewish women wear or Amish women?
Are their menfolk misogynistic cunts too for making them wear that head gear and those dowdy dresses?

foggy_lad · 25-07-2016 11:56AM

Manic Moran wrote: »

Foggy, it's Martial. Marshall was a General.

Apologies, I'm busy mobilising the Carlow Militaria
Militia

lawlolawl wrote: »

Turns out it was a 27 year old Syrian who was refused asylum so he decided to become a suicide bomber.

The phrase "Trojan Horse" springs to mind about all of this.

According to reports yesterday he was TWICE REFUSED asylum

testicles wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

Because Merkel is pandering to people like Peter Sutherland and failed asylum seekers and other criminals do not get deported lest it offend the sensibilities of some billionaires somewhere.

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

What do you propose doing to the millions fleeing ISIS? While the destruction of ISIS would be the best idea, one thing we should have learned going in feet first ha led to this cluster ****.

And before you say it the majority of Refugees from ISIS are housed in the middle east.

Turn them on their heel with a gun in hand to fight for their country like millions of young able bodied men from all over the world signed up to do voluntarily during wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and even the last world war!

These cowards are spineless and without any decent morals and will not be any addition to any decent country they try to hide in!

Shenshen wrote: »

Where would you send someone without documentation? Where would you return them to if you can't establish where they came from? Which country would take them back if you can't prove they are a citizen?

They should be detained in camps like the Americans do and returned in bulk shipments to countries they are most likely to be from, DNA testing and profiling can be used to find where they are from!

RandomName2 wrote: »

1. Less than half of the migrants are refugees from Syria. Some reports put it as low as 40%. I'd suggest not taking in people from outside of Syria.

2. The gulf states (with the hilarious exception of Iraq) aren't taking in any refugees at all. The West can exert pressure to change that.

3. Backing Assad would have caused the collapse of ISIS years ago, but because he is in the same camp as Iran and Russia this cannot be countenanced by the West (we don't care if he's a dictator, the point is he isn't our dictator)

No need to get political at all, just stop taking these people into Europe at all! detain all refugees in camps pending their return to their own country when it is safe.

HensVassal · 25-07-2016 11:57AM

Smondie wrote: »

Of course it's the woman's choice. it's empowering as she wears it to control who can masturbate thinking about her. Am I right? :rolleyes:

More drivel from you. You're an authority on everything aren't you from muslims to obesity.

Dyr · 25-07-2016 11:59AM

HensVassal wrote: »

This is a stupid statement. The religion doesn't stone the rape victim. AFAIK, only in the extremeist Wahhabist hellhole of Saudi Arabia does this occur.

The same bunch have been bankrolling Wahhabism across the world for centuries and ****ed an entire region from Sudan through Afghanistan right up to he Philippines with their poison. Aided and abetted by western nations who thought that it made a handy Frankenstein's monster to undermine their enemies. Yeah it's "only" the saudi's we need to worry about.

yet we're happy to have these wall eyed loons set up camp in clonskeagh just to show how progressive we are.

beach_walker · 25-07-2016 12:03PM

Walter H Price wrote: »

Eh didn't Jesus prevent a prostitute from being stoned ?

Adulteress actually. But shh, that little bit doesn't fit with the narrative to hang Christianity in *every* single one of these threads.

A Primal Nut wrote: »

It's amazing how hard the media are trying to convince us that this has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism.

I'm not keen on your line of thinking here, but have definitely noticed an... oddness in reporting on recent incidents. The headline on the BBC website at the mo is "Syrian blows himself up in Germany". Saw that, thought it strange and then realised they must mean a suicide bombing. Imagine a headline for a US mass shooting as "Man shoots self" and then in the article, "...also shot 12 people".

Widdershins · 25-07-2016 12:03PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Both places are religious theocracies. You can dress as you please in most other Muslims countries from Morocco to Indonesia.

Did you ever see the duds that Hisitic Jewish women wear or Amish women?
Are their menfolk misogynistic cunts too for making them wear that head gear and those dowdy dresses?

Hasidic ? I have . There aren't many of them . Some of them are dowdy, in that the emphasis is on modesty , no plunging necklines and a headscarf to cover married woman's hair. Not all black though .A bit like rural Irish women in the 50's but not quite in the same league as the burqa to be honest . I would think it was strange if they became common on irish streets but a lot less weird than the burqa situation .

dav3 · 25-07-2016 12:04PM

Walter H Price wrote: »

Depnends id is it cold or are we in the middle of the Fk**g deset , i know my Fiance wears pretty much only a bikin when wer on hoildays , or a Bikini top and shorts. Dont think being covered head to toe in black would be too comfy

Also how is a dress medievil ? like come on your clutching at straws here

and lastly no one asked them to come , this is how we live in Europe if they want to live here then they should want to live in our culture embrace it etc , if they want to live a Sharia islamic lifestyle thats ok but stay in the middle east.

Because if i go to Dubi or Saudi i cant very well walk around with my Fiance in her Bikin slugging a beer if i so choose or get a bit frisky in a taxi or a public park. we have to live by their rules in the middle east it should be a two way street .

No Burkas , No Niquabs , No Halal and No Shariah in Europe thanks very much

Why are we seeing so much faux outrage over what headwear women wear? Oh...wait, it's only for certain skin colours and religions.

Living in Ireland we've all seen nuns strolling around with their habits on. I just don't remember the outrage and concern for these poor women forced into wearing this particular headwear as part of their religion.

How exactly do you think banning the religious habit for nuns will go down with all the religious holy joes and marys in this country?

unseenfootage · 25-07-2016 12:04PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Is there that much of a distinction between the two? Until they're worn too by the men who insist upon them, they both should be considered as the misogynistic trappings that they are... Hijabs I take no issue with whatsoever

Even tho, according to your logic, men insist that women wear them.

HensVassal · 25-07-2016 12:05PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Oh boy.

Please go and view the footage of migrants arriving in ports and rail stations enmasse across Europe then answer this question honestly. Of those migrants,roughly what percentage have wives, baby daughters, and elderly mothers in tow? 30%? 20%? 10%?.. 5%?

Your rebuttal doesn't stand up to scrutiny in any form, please try again to discredit my opinion that these single, unmarried, able bodied young men should be fighting for their homelands.

As for air-strikes? Has it not occurred to you that the reason they're so numerous is due to the simple fact that there are so few boots on the ground to stem Daesh's advance?

Why is the onus on them to fight and die for their homeland when the very fuckers who are doing all the killing are armed and funded by Saudi Arabia and the US? Maybe they should stop destabilizing every country in the Middle East with their gangs of psychotic Daesh mercenaries and the bog standard joe public in Iraq, or Syria or Yemen could simply live in his homeland in peace.

Maybe millions should have stayed in Iraq too to fight the Americans instead of running for their lives to live in refugee camps in Syria and Jordan and Lebanon, Yeah? Grab a slingshot and take on an Apache gunship or Abrams tank only to get blown to chop-meat.

You're very damn brave aren't you?

speedboatchase · 25-07-2016 12:05PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Both places are religious theocracies. You can dress as you please in most other Muslims countries from Morocco to Indonesia.

Did you ever see the duds that Hisitic Jewish women wear or Amish women?
Are their menfolk misogynistic cunts too for making them wear that head gear and those dowdy dresses?

Yes.

Smondie · 25-07-2016 12:05PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Smondie wrote: »

Of course it's the woman's choice. it's empowering as she wears it to control who can masturbate thinking about her. Am I right? :rolleyes:

More drivel from you. You're an authority on everything aren't you from muslims to obesity.

Are you implying they wear Burkas to cover thier fatness?

Grayson · 25-07-2016 12:06PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Since WW2, I wonder if there has even been 500 terrorist incidents relating to Islamic terrorism in Western Europe? And how many millions of Muslims have lived in Western Europe since that time, coming in huge, post-war waves of migration.

In another thread I showed figures that say since the mid 90's in the US about 16% of terrorist incidents were islamic (It was about that much, I'm remembering it rather than looking it up so if someone looks it up and I'm off by a couple of percent, then I'm sorry).

The fact is that islamic terrorism gets a hell of a lot of press. It's understandable. When you look at the number killed in terrorist incidents in the US islamic terrorism is very high but it's mainly because of 9-11. That one attack accounts for more deaths than all other attacks, islamic and non islamic, combined.

Widdershins · 25-07-2016 12:06PM

dav3 wrote: »

Why are we seeing so much faux outrage over what headwear women wear? Oh...wait, it's only for certain skin colours and religions.

Living in Ireland we've all seen nuns strolling around with their habits on. I just don't remember the outrage and concern for these poor women forced into wearing this particular headwear as part of their religion.

How exactly do you think banning the religious habit for nuns will go down with all the religious holy joes and marys in this country?

Your comment is disgusting . How dare you accuse people of thinking of skin colour in this . if you STOP thinking of skin colour and listen you might understand more . And nuns CHOOSE the job and don't have it foisted on them from birth , and can leave without a man's permission apart from iin the employment sense . Also Irish nuns garb is nothing like a burqa .

25-07-2016 12:07PM

Walter H Price wrote: »

Because if i go to Dubi or Saudi i cant very well walk around with my Fiance in her Bikin slugging a beer if i so choose or get a bit frisky in a taxi or a public park. we have to live by their rules in the middle east it should be a two way street .

I think it's fairly uncontentious to assert that newcomers should abide by our legal system & our liberal principles.

But you need to abide by them too. And so does Government. Because the liberalism enshrined in our laws and public policy say that people are entitled to a wide degree of latitude in terms of their dress, and in how their formulate their worldview.

Our liberalism and tolerance marks us as different from the Middle East. Opinions like yours are a greater threat to our way of life than some ould wan in a hijab in Tesco.

Widdershins wrote: »

I have a lovely photo somewhere of desert sand strewn with burqas after the region was liberated

Can you find that photo and smell it?

And tell me if it's smells like bullshit?

Walter H Price · 25-07-2016 12:10PM

dav3 wrote: »

Why are we seeing so much faux outrage over what headwear women wear? Oh...wait, it's only for certain skin colours and religions.

Living in Ireland we've all seen nuns strolling around with their habits on. I just don't remember the outrage and concern for these poor women forced into wearing this particular headwear as part of their religion.

How exactly do you think banning the religious habit for nuns will go down with all the religious holy joes and marys in this country?

How is that the same women choose to become Nuns of their own villition , they choose that lifestyle , its a job like FFS your comparing that to a culture where many women are forced to cover themselves head to toe no choice etc , can be prosecuted or honor killed for being raped , denied basic rights and treated like second class citizens

The catholic church is a disgusting institution and people here have rightly left it in droves over the abuses it carried out and its backwards views on Contraception and other issues such as Gay rights and abortion, but you simply cannot compare the two like not even close .

Lert me assure you my outrage is not Faux

Widdershins · 25-07-2016 12:12PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I think it's fairly uncontentious to assert that newcomers should abide by our legal system & our liberal principles.

But you need to abide by them too. And so does Government. Because the liberalism enshrined in our laws and public policy say that people are entitled to a wide degree of latitude in terms of their dress, and in how their formulate their worldview.

Our liberalism and tolerance marks us as different from the Middle East. Opinions like yours are a greater threat to our way of life than some ould wan in a hijab in Tesco.

Can you find that photo and smell it?

And tell me if it's smells like bullshit?

It looks like the antagonists ae crawling out from their caves. No it must have been faked because no woman would want to be free from that would they . i will refrain from commenting further if the standard of contributors is going to stay that low.

Call Me Jimmy · 25-07-2016 12:13PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

24/7 news cycle and clickbait media has a lot to do with it. If the people of wartime London had a device in their pocket which buzzed and told them every time an atrocity happened, or had Kay Burley in their kitchens showing bereaved families wailing over their morning toast maybe they wouldn't have been so stoic. Besides, these people would have all had family members who endured WW1 and the horrors that brought. They would also more than likely have had a genuine belief in God and pride in king and country to bolster them, things modern Europeans don't have. Context is everything.

Also they'd have defined roles and protocols for how to deal with it, each person knows what is expected of them, how they can help. A clear goal in sight and path to victory that everyone is on board with. It's easier to have resolve when there is a possible resolution. This is a relatively new threat and there is nothing the average joe can do, nothing proposed by governments even. There is apparently no enemy to fight, some say no idealogical war either.

The worst state for a human psychologically is helplessness imo, I think there are legitimate reasons for people to be scared other than smartphones. I'm not scared because its far away for now, but reading about the weird way people of Nice feel, I know I'd think a lot different if it happened here.

Bob24 · 25-07-2016 12:14PM

dav3 wrote: »

Why are we seeing so much faux outrage over what headwear women wear? Oh...wait, it's only for certain skin colours and religions.

Living in Ireland we've all seen nuns strolling around with their habits on. I just don't remember the outrage and concern for these poor women forced into wearing this particular headwear as part of their religion.

How exactly do you think banning the religious habit for nuns will go down with all the religious holy joes and marys in this country?

2 points to help you understand the difference:

1) Nun are full time members of an organisation which requires wearing a certain garment, like a uniform. The Catholic Church is not suggesting other female believers should dress that way; only members of the organisation. If there is an issue with that, there should also be an issue with McDonald's requiring its staff to wear a uniform.

2) No nun is completely covering her body and her face (which is a very unique thing to do, not only compared to western habits but also to the huge variety of cultural dress-codes which exist in the world).

Smondie · 25-07-2016 12:16PM

Bob24 wrote: »

dav3 wrote: »

Why are we seeing so much faux outrage over what headwear women wear? Oh...wait, it's only for certain skin colours and religions.

Living in Ireland we've all seen nuns strolling around with their habits on. I just don't remember the outrage and concern for these poor women forced into wearing this particular headwear as part of their religion.

How exactly do you think banning the religious habit for nuns will go down with all the religious holy joes and marys in this country?

2 points to help you understand the difference:

1) Nun are full time members of an organisation which requires wearing a certain garment, like a uniform. The Catholic Church is not suggesting other female believer should dress that way, only members of the organisation. If there is an issue with that, there should also be an issue with McDonald's requiring its staff to wear a uniform.

2) No nun is completely covering her body and her face.

Very few nuns in Ireland wear the habit any more. The Catholic church doesn't require that nuns wear it.

Duggy747 · 25-07-2016 12:18PM

dav3 wrote: »

Why are we seeing so much faux outrage over what headwear women wear? Oh...wait, it's only for certain skin colours and religions.

Living in Ireland we've all seen nuns strolling around with their habits on. I just don't remember the outrage and concern for these poor women forced into wearing this particular headwear as part of their religion.

How exactly do you think banning the religious habit for nuns will go down with all the religious holy joes and marys in this country?

Poor comparison, a nun is a woman who chooses to join and wear the garb as part of her role, they're not forced to be nuns and it's not one that is particularly common anymore these days. A nun is free to leave under her own will at any time without fear of being attacked or killed.

Women of the faith are also not required or expected to wear those garments, only those who join the organisation in that manner.

techdiver · 25-07-2016 12:20PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Oh boy.

Please go and view the footage of migrants arriving in ports and rail stations enmasse across Europe then answer this question honestly. Of those migrants,roughly what percentage have wives, baby daughters, and elderly mothers in tow? 30%? 20%? 10%?.. 5%?

Your rebuttal doesn't stand up to scrutiny in any form, please try again to discredit my opinion that these single, unmarried, able bodied young men should be fighting for their homelands.

As for air-strikes? Has it not occurred to you that the reason they're so numerous is due to the simple fact that there are so few boots on the ground to stem Daesh's advance?

Why should they be fighting though??

Call me a coward, but i'd prefer to live my life out in another country than be cannon fodder or brutally murdered for nothing. **** nationalism as far as I'm concerned. My number one priority is the safety of my family and myself. What would be the point of me just getting killed by these people. I would be ill equipped and lack any knowledge of training to take them on. Should I just walk up to them waving a stick??

i love this pseudo-macho talk on the internet from "brave" people, who talk ****e about what they would and wouldn't do when faced with the reality of being killed themselves. I suppose you are the same type who thinks everyone should fight back when confronted with a weapon waving scumbag on the street.

The_Mac · 25-07-2016 12:21PM

Smondie wrote: »

Very few nuns in Ireland wear the habit any more. The Catholic church doesn't require that nuns wear it.

Shh you're triggering the poor lad. How's he meant to bash the Catholic Church while defending Islam now?

Explosion in bar in Ansbach, Germany

Comments