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Star Trek: Discovery - Pre-release discussion [** NO SPOILERS **]

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    #242
    [Deleted User]
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    AMKC wrote: »
    Yes true the Klingons and Romulans do occupy a large part of the Beta Quadrant but 90% of the Beta Quadrant is still unexplored. Its not like starfleet have never sent ships to the Beta Quadrant before they have the Olympus and the Excelsior being two such ships. The former was on an 8year mission in the Beta quadrant and the latter a 3 year mission. I think having a ship on an 8 year mission to explore space not yet explored would and could make for a great show no jumping back to a starbase every week either like TNG did far to often.

    That's exactly what I mean


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    #243
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    Myrddin wrote: »
    I agree, but they'd need to distance the concept from Voyager (a Starfleet ship, alone with no backup). TV has come on a long way since then though, so I'm sure if the motivation was there they could do it.

    Voyager was always trying to get home so it made no sense that they kept coming across the same people at the start. Kazon should have been left behind within an episode FFS

    The counter of that is that they could not keep interesting characters as recurring for that very reason.


    Criss-crossing the Beta Quadrant, in exploration, would easily mean that they could bring back characters (friend or foe) while keeping it fresh too


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    #244
    Josey Wales
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    Does anyone else find it a bit strange that filming is only scheduled to begin in September but the premier is January 2017? Seems like a very short turnaround.


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    #245
    Zillah
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    Josey Wales wrote: »
    Does anyone else find it a bit strange that filming is only scheduled to begin in September but the premier is January 2017? Seems like a very short turnaround.

    It's all a bit weird. Fuller says they'll probably be shooting until March is this interview: http://collider.com/new-star-trek-series-details/ Wikipedia says they were still talking about meeting potential cast members in July, so God knows how they'll be shooting by September.

    All strangely accelerated.


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    #246
    Also Starring LeVar Burton
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    Josey Wales wrote: »
    Does anyone else find it a bit strange that filming is only scheduled to begin in September but the premier is January 2017? Seems like a very short turnaround.
    Zillah wrote: »
    It's all a bit weird. Fuller says they'll probably be shooting until March is this interview: http://collider.com/new-star-trek-series-details/ Wikipedia says they were still talking about meeting potential cast members in July, so God knows how they'll be shooting by September.

    All strangely accelerated.

    Not especially - a lot of TV shows that start back in September don't start filming until July, so by that logic they're actually starting fairly early for a January debut. The only difference with this and most new shows is that they didn't need to film a pilot, it was ordered straight to series.


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    #247
    Zillah
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    Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »
    Not especially - a lot of TV shows that start back in September don't start filming until July

    I don't understand how this is possible. How on Earth do they get it edited in time?


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    #248
    Beefy78
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    They won't have the whole season done in that time, obviously. They'll probably shoot a show a week then six weeks to go through post-production into broadcast.

    24's first season was only originally commissioned for 12 episodes and they got the renewal for the full 24 shows as those first dozen episodes were being broadcast to great ratings.


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    #249
    Kiith
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    Beefy78 wrote: »
    24's first season was only originally commissioned for 12 episodes and they got the renewal for the full 24 shows as those first dozen episodes were being broadcast to great ratings.

    I guess that explains why Kim and Terri got so much bloody screen time :pac:


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    #250
    Also Starring LeVar Burton
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    Zillah wrote: »
    I don't understand how this is possible. How on Earth do they get it edited in time?

    Magic! ;)
    Beefy78 wrote: »
    They won't have the whole season done in that time, obviously. They'll probably shoot a show a week then six weeks to go through post-production into broadcast.

    Pretty much this.


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    #251
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    We have a name! :)
    https://twitter.com/StarTrek/status/756974026686205952
    https://twitter.com/CBS/status/756974094688460801

    AND a Trailer!!!
    https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/756974219322273792


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    #252
    Slydice
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    Trailer now on youtube:


    Looks very pre-processing for the effects.

    [EDIT]
    This youtube trailer has stopped working but the trailer in tweet above (the last tweet in the post) is still working

    [EDIT2]
    Someone else has reuploaded the trailer to a different youtube channel so fixed :) (tweet also still working)


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    #253
    Optimus Prime
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    That... looks terrible... why would you release that, i hope thats unfinished it looks like a ten year old video game.

    The ship looks influenced by the old klingon ships.

    Edit: is it gone from youtube? they should delete those tweets too haha


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    #254
    ziedth
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    Any word yet on where in the time line this is coming in?


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    #255
    malcy
    Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭malcy


    New series called Star Trek Discovery. Ship looks very similar to the aborted Phase II/Planet Of The Titans Enterprise design.

    Teaser here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxba2WjlN90


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    #256
    ItHurtsWhenIP
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    Does she not look a little Klingon Battlecruiser-like?

    Just from aft of the saucer.


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    #257
    Optimus Prime
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    ziedth wrote: »
    Any word yet on where in the time line this is coming in?

    Its confirmed its the prime timeline so not the rebooted movie one.


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    #258
    FutureGuy
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    On the starship beauty scale of one to ten, this resets the one and pushes the current ugliest ship up to a 4.

    Awful design and awful cgi. There simply must be a story reason for the design. It looks like a hybrid Federation/Klingon ship but the registry pilots it pre TOS but post-Enterprise.

    Lost for words really.


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    #259
    Optimus Prime
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    yeh its terrible looking, bad cgi, bad design. its clearly a klingon federation hybrid ship, even when it comes out of the asteroid at the end the music changes to a slight klingon theme. I really was hoping it wasnt post enterprise\pre TOS but it seems to be.


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    #260
    Also Starring LeVar Burton
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    Don't mind the look of the ship - I'm sure they'll have better CGI in the show itself, but they haven't started filming yet, so it's early days.


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    #261
    DivingDuck
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    FutureGuy wrote: »
    On the starship beauty scale of one to ten, this resets the one and pushes the current ugliest ship up to a 4.
    Optimus Prime wrote: »
    Its confirmed its the prime timeline so not the rebooted movie one.

    Missed the video, but even if the ship looked like a potato with mini sausages attached to it via toothpicks, I would still be all over this series because it's not reboot timeline...


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    #262
    Sad Professor
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    This is just a badly rendered teaser trailer thrown together for Comic-con, but the ship is obviously based on Ralph McQuarrie's unused concept art for Planet of the Titans, which was Paramount's first attempt at a Star Trek movie after TOS ended but was scraped. Seems the saucer was designed to separate and land on planets. Pretty cool actually.

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/5721854/ralph-mcquarries-lost-concept-art-for-a-star-trek-movie-in-1976-1977/


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    #263
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    malcy wrote: »
    New series called Star Trek Discovery. Ship looks very similar to the aborted Phase II/Planet Of The Titans Enterprise design.

    Teaser here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxba2WjlN90

    I know it is a long way out but there are fan shots with better rendered CG than that


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    #264
    Nate--IRL--
    Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Nate--IRL--


    The Similarities are striking.

    38c5SmZ.jpg

    Nate


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    #265
    Optimus Prime
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    wow even the space dock in the asteroid looks the same as his drawings!

    18lsjl7zqudg1jpg.jpg

    18lsjl9yqvmkojpg.jpg


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    #266
    Goodshape
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    Shockingly bad render but that must be due to it being early days.

    So are we all looking forward to catching STD in January?


    ...wait. :-/


    (teaser is on Twitter here: https://amp.twimg.com/v/e8cf88fe-c51d-45df-baa5-79fcb2ed157f)


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    #267
    The_Valeyard
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    Please be a lie
    Please be a lie
    Please be a lie


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    #268
    The_Valeyard
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I know it is a lokng way out but there are fan shots with better rendered CG than that

    *cough*
    Axanar
    *cough*

    Their assault on that project makes more sense now


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    #269
    Antar Bolaeisk
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    Presumably some joint Federation/Klingon Empire venture post Khitomer Accords?

    The registry number is weird, maybe it's the Discovery A or B at that stage though if it is it's definitely absent from the hull markings.

    It is, however, one damn ugly ship.


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    #270
    Myrddin
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    The CG is abysmal, as someone said, worse than a ten year old video game. The ship is horrific looking, a circle and a triangle glued together...wow.

    If this is a reveal intended to generate hype and interest, consider it a truly epic fail :(


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    #271
    squonk
    Registered Users Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭squonk


    For heavens sake! What's wrong with people??? We've waited 10 years for a new Star Trek show and at the first release of a teaser trailer, everyone jumps to attack it. I think the ship looks OK. It's not the prettiest but so what. It's a limited run season so we've got 13-15 episodes in that chapter. It won't be sticking around for 7 seasons like the D.

    It's a teaser so rendering is obviously at the early stages. Personally I'll be giving it a few episodes go cast a judgement. I know we shouldn't take any old crap branded as Star Trek but, given all our reactions to the JJ-verse, I don't think anyone here is guilty of gullibility on that scale.

    Give the producers, writers and others associated with the new show a chance. Thanks to dross, particularly like oyager, Star Trek could well have died. CBS could have looked at the JJ-verse formula and recreated 90210 in space like the recent movies but it looks like they're taking things relatively seriously and I, for one, applaud them for it.


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