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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    So, you're honestly going to tell me you'd let one of your family members die to save 10 people from Indonesia? I find it hard to believe. You might think all lives weigh equally from a comfortable life in the Western world, but that simply is not the case.

    Nigerians care about Nigerian lives more than Irish ones, just as I care about Irish ones more than Nigerians. There's nothing inherently wrong about it, it's just what humans are.

    I would gladly swap someone from Indonesia or Nigeria for you. You offer nothing to Irish society.
    I will pay for your flight and travel to the front lines to fight ISIS, you can PM me your details and i'll book it right now.
    The same goes for any other mini trump wannabes.


  • Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Strumms wrote: »
    The way these terrorists see it is that their innocent family and friends were killed by an illegal invasion under false pretenses.. not to mention the historical interfering by the west in the region for decades... not that it justifies it but you have to attempt to look at it from the other side...

    Problem now will be the gradual rise in support for the likes of the French National Front...

    No the problem is the rise of terrorist attacks

    Important point:
    **France did not invade Iraq in 2003. France was against the US led invasion**


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,951 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    dav3 wrote: »
    I would gladly swap someone from Indonesia or Nigeria for you. You offer nothing to Irish society.
    I will pay for your flight and travel to the front lines to fight ISIS, you can PM me your details and i'll book it right now.
    The same goes for any other mini trump wannabes.

    Just buy him a copy of call of duty, it's about as close as he would ever get to seeing action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    Did anyone hear the interview on Sky News at about 12 last night? It was an English woman who was describing how she escaped the carnage by have to use the toilet. At the end she said she was upset because "I'm upset because this has ruined my shopping trip, I bought a load of stuff, and now I can't enjoy it"


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's quite simple really. That man has the chance to drop Islam and embrace Irish culture, or leave.

    Why? Cos some little internet wannabe GI Joe hardman says so? He's embraced plenty of the culture. His Ireland bunting was up longer than mine was for the Euros. Watched a couple of games with him in his house and also, shock horror, the Cricket World Cup too. Oh, his evil Muslim ways must be getting to me. That man, as you call him, works his balls off to provide for his family. Plenty of Irish won't bother their hole doing likewise. As I said, his wife sends in stuff to my mam and vice versa. His eldest son is as mannerly and as respectful as any adult I know and calls my mother by Miss. Plays football alongside all the other kids, some of whom are black (One of the black ones plays GAA btw OMG). Sounds pretty embracing to me. None of them have ever brought up religion to me.

    If I had the choice of living next to that family or you and your lovely ideologies ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    You asked when my cut-off would be. I am giving you an answer based on statistical fact.

    Can you point me to the source of the statistical facts please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Perhaps we can do a whip round to get IrishTrajan shipped off to the Middle East, seeing as he is burdened with glorious purpose and all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    The police cannot cope with the day to day crime in most countries as it is,

    Now they should be used 24/7 to round up Muslims

    Then guard them

    Then deport them.

    How many planes would be needed?

    There's about 50,000 Muslims in Ireland, assuming even 20% of them decide they prefer Ireland than Islam or voluntarily leave (there was a think-tank in the US who calculated the cost of Trump/Cruz deportations and reckoned some 20% would voluntarily leave), that leaves 40,000 people.

    Place them in Croke Park, have the Army police it until passage out can be provided.

    A Boeing 747 can hold up to 660 people in one flight depending on the configuration.

    At one flight a day, that's about 60 days by my count. 75 if you include the entirety of the population here.

    Easily done within a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So how do you go about deporting hundreds of thousand's of people a week?

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned frog Marching the hundreds of thousands through the channel tunnel at gunpoint yet,
    They don't seem to realise you have to have another country willing to take them ,

    It's getting a little Germany 1939 all over again


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You arrest them and hold them until you can deport them on the next plane or boat out. It's not like the Egyptians can stop their own citizens from entering the country.

    If only they had a camp where they could concentrate all these people. You could call it a concentration ca....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,939 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Gwynplaine wrote: »
    Did anyone hear the interview on Sky News at about 12 last night? It was an English woman who was describing how she escaped the carnage by have to use the toilet. At the end she said she was upset because "I'm upset because this has ruined my shopping trip, I bought a load of stuff, and now I can't enjoy it"

    The quote makes her sound like a knob obviously.
    But to give her the benefit of the doubt, people can say the most ridiculous things when traumatised by events.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭alwald


    It's quite simple really. That man has the chance to drop Islam and embrace Irish culture, or leave.


    This is hilarious, I am lost of words.
    How people take you seriously here? How do you take yourself seriously?
    Go through the history of humanity and you will realise that your "solution" has never worked, it's quite the opposite, it created more harm than good.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can I just thank whoever it is that came up with the idea of adding an Ignore feature? You're a sanity saver.

    I know a few Muslims and every single one of them has adapted into the Irish culture, some with even Irish spouses, while keeping their religious practices and customs. The idea that these people should be forced to give up their religion or leave the country is utterly disgusting.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You asked when my cut-off would be. I am giving you an answer based on statistical fact.

    I don't think you know what either of those words mean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Their navy can stop a ship entering their waters, their air force can stop a plane entering their air space.

    Egypt is not clan-run Libya, what are they going to do, shoot their own citizens out of the sky?

    That's playing right into ISIS hands!


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's about 50,000 Muslims in Ireland, assuming even 20% of them decide they prefer Ireland than Islam or voluntarily leave (there was a think-tank in the US who calculated the cost of Trump/Cruz deportations and reckoned some 20% would voluntarily leave), that leaves 40,000 people.

    Place them in Croke Park, have the Army police it until passage out can be provided.

    A Boeing 747 can hold up to 660 people in one flight depending on the configuration.

    At one flight a day, that's about 60 days by my count. 75 if you include the entirety of the population here.

    Easily done within a year.

    :D:D:D

    I just got the parody now with your "round up and hold in football stadiums"! It worked for Bosnians after all.

    I actually thought you were kinda serious up to now...:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    If Islam wasn't a religion people would be comparing it to Nazi ideology. I think it is a horrific belief system and it has no place in our Western democracy. It should be banned. Just like how the Nazi flag is banned in Germany.

    Why not ban all religions? Why not give up freedom of speech? Take away freedom completely and allow our governments to make every single decision for us, as in "Will I have white or brown bread for breakfast today".

    What you suggest is incredibly ironic, it's on par with the ideals of a radical. You don't have to kill people to be a radical, just in case you make some silly comparison.
    Listen the cops have fair idea who is who. I mean your post is exactly why we need tougher laws. Let Cops and forces deal with it. If people don't comply then yes jail them, what are they hiding?

    You make it sound like I'm going after innocent people, I'm not. Go after anybody who has any links.

    What exactly do you mean by "link". The brother of somebody involved with ISIS? Should he be jailed?

    There's a difference between tougher laws and fascism.
    Well it's simple. They can choose Europe, or they can choose Islam. The choice is up to them.

    Very Ironic post. I haven't read any post from you on this thread that is not filled with fear/hatred.

    Do many of your school friends hold the same view as you on this topic? I hope someday you will read back on your posts and think "jesus, wtf was I thinking".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    alwald wrote: »
    This is hilarious, I am lost of words.
    How people take you seriously here? How do you take yourself seriously?
    Go through the history of humanity and you will realise that your "solution" has never worked, it's quite the opposite, it created more harm than good.

    Actually, if you've studied history, you'd realise it has worked. Very often. What doesn't work is closing your eyes when there's a threat and hoping it goes away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Egypt is not clan-run Libya, what are they going to do, shoot their own citizens out of the sky?

    That's playing right into ISIS hands!

    So, what you are saying is that we *can* deport citizens, but other countries can't turn them away...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Omackeral wrote: »
    If only they had a camp where they could concentrate all these people. You could call it a concentration ca....

    "N-n-n-n-nazi"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I'll make sure to give them your best regards when I'm putting the people who want your head on a pike in the ground :)

    I'll start getting worried about my own head when ISIS drones are flying over the house. Until then you can practice for the mighty showdown on your games console.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perhaps we can do a whip round to get IrishTrajan shipped off to the Middle East, seeing as he is burdened with glorious purpose and all.

    He is a Soldier of Destiny.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Place them in Croke Park, have the Army police it until passage out can be provided.

    A Boeing 747 can hold up to 660 people in one flight depending on the configuration.

    At one flight a day, that's about 60 days by my count. 75 if you include the entirety of the population here.

    Easily done within a year.


    Or alternatively, you could just f*ck off.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Actually, if you've studied history, you'd realise it has worked. Very often. What doesn't work is closing your eyes when there's a threat and hoping it goes away.

    You tell em, Trajan, Give them historical examples of rounding up and holding in sports facilities that worked out well...

    Srebernica...

    http://www.upi.com/Archives/1995/07/14/Bosnian-Muslim-men-held-prisoner/3027805694400/

    Paris...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vel%27_d%27Hiv_Roundup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Why don't we just bring in laws to restrict our freedoms from those who want to take our freedoms to protect our freedoms.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    You tell em, Trajan, Give them historical examples of rounding up and holding in sports facilities that worked out well...

    Srebernica...

    http://www.upi.com/Archives/1995/07/14/Bosnian-Muslim-men-held-prisoner/3027805694400/

    Paris...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vel%27_d%27Hiv_Roundup

    Don't forget about Chile


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Anyone know it the fella on the scooter survived?

    He jumped off his scooter & tried to enter the cab to stop the lorry, before it ploughed into the the crowds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,951 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    There's about 50,000 Muslims in Ireland, assuming even 20% of them decide they prefer Ireland than Islam or voluntarily leave (there was a think-tank in the US who calculated the cost of Trump/Cruz deportations and reckoned some 20% would voluntarily leave), that leaves 40,000 people.

    Place them in Croke Park, have the Army police it until passage out can be provided.

    A Boeing 747 can hold up to 660 people in one flight depending on the configuration.

    At one flight a day, that's about 60 days by my count. 75 if you include the entirety of the population here.

    Easily done within a year.

    Take them where? Let's say you fill a plane and send it to Egypt, Egyptian authorities say the plane can't land, now what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭Autonomous Cowherd


    I thought this site was moderated. Irish Trajan's comments constitute shocking incitement to hatred. I cannot believe they are being allowed to stand here. I am sure that among the people dead from this horrific attack, there are innocent Muslims and Christians and innocent people of no creed at all. I am really quite upset that in the wake of such an appalling event this poster can have such free reign with his hate speech.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,951 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Egypt is not clan-run Libya, what are they going to do, shoot their own citizens out of the sky?

    That's playing right into ISIS hands!

    Your post get more idiotic by the minute, have a snickers :rolleyes:


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