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11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at Dallas protest rally

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  • #182
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The thing now is that answer here will be more guns for everyone. America is a basket case.


  • #183
    beans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭beans


    super_furry wrote: »
    ... there's no evidence that they are involved in the murders.

    Of course, we don't know what this was all about yet. Just musing.


  • #184
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    Yes, America has pretty much destroyed them.

    Yeah, both places were pretty much paradise before the Americans got involved :pac:


  • #185
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    beach_walker wrote: »
    Well they don't seem to have an issue with the naming, from the about page

    Ah the name is confusing tbh.


  • #186
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    FA Hayek wrote: »
    Have to agree. Unfortunately the media like to whip this up more. Once you excuse political violence as in its OK to assault people attending a Trump event, then its not too far more to shot police officers because the media have fanned the flames even more.

    All this Black lives matter is just racists divisive nonsense. All lives matter and people should be be trying to stir up and agitate hate because of grievances real or imagined. There will always be idiots but we have to call out the idiots on both sides and not be called racist because hard truths hurt. There are plenty of white racists and there are just as many black racists to match.

    Of course all lives matter but the point is you have a group of people who feel their lives matter less because of their skin colour. Look back at the recent murders by cop. Do you really think k they would have happened to white guys or asians? We don't need white lives matter or asian lives matter because they don't need to worry about cops shooting them and getting away with it. Their lives already matter. To far too many people black lives don't by the looks of things.

    Connecting this shooting to issues at Trump events merely shows how silly your post is. If the media did cause this by excusing earlier issues what did Trump cause by excusing punching people who disagree with him?

    Who is being called a racist that isn't a racist btw?


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  • #187
    beans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭beans


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Of course all lives matter but the point is you have a group of people who feel their lives matter less because of their skin colour. Look back at the recent murders by cop. Do you really think k they would have happened to white guys or asians?

    Happened on June 25th http://www.dailywire.com/news/7274/cops-shoot-white-guy-fresno-nobody-pays-attention-hank-berrien


  • #188
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Of course all lives matter but the point is you have a group of people who feel their lives matter less because of their skin colour. Look back at the recent murders by cop. Do you really think k they would have happened to white guys or asians? We don't need white lives matter or asian lives matter because they don't need to worry about cops shooting them and getting away with it. Their lives already matter. To far too many people black lives don't by the looks of things.

    Weird that these racist cops are so specific in the race they are targeting, eh?


  • #189
    speedboatchase
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    Yes, America has pretty much destroyed them.

    Syrians destroyed Syria.


  • #190
    ceegee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Of course all lives matter but the point is you have a group of people who feel their lives matter less because of their skin colour. Look back at the recent murders by cop. Do you really think k they would have happened to white guys or asians? We don't need white lives matter or asian lives matter because they don't need to worry about cops shooting them and getting away with it. Their lives already matter. To far too many people black lives don't by the looks of things.

    Connecting this shooting to issues at Trump events merely shows how silly your post is. If the media did cause this by excusing earlier issues what did Trump cause by excusing punching people who disagree with him?

    Who is being called a racist that isn't a racist btw?

    more white people get killed by police officers than black people. This fact gets ignored by groups like BLM because it doesn't suit the narrative


  • #191
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Connecting this shooting to issues at Trump events merely shows how silly your post is. If the media did cause this by excusing earlier issues what did Trump cause by excusing punching people who disagree with him?

    BLM have been issued permits to protest at RNC events, Trump supporters have been assaulted outside rallies, a gunman tried to discharge a police weapon inside a rally. It's a polarising candidacy and the events in Dallas are very much linked, to think otherwise is very foolish indeed.


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  • #192
    beans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭beans


    ceegee wrote: »
    more white people get killed by police officers than black people. This fact gets ignored by groups like BLM because it doesn't suit the narrative

    Is that more by percentage of the population I wonder?


  • #193
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    That is absolutely crazy stuff! America seems like a really unstable place at the moment.
    ..... meanwhile Obama is in Europe right now, something to do with "Russian aggression" apparently. Ever hear the old saying "Nero fiddled while Rome burned" ?


  • #194
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    ceegee wrote: »
    more white people get killed by police officers than black people. This fact gets ignored by groups like BLM because it doesn't suit the narrative

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

    Shockingly more white people will get killed when they make up most of the population. This is why we use proportions.


  • #195
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Of course all lives matter but the point is you have a group of people who feel their lives matter less because of their skin colour. Look back at the recent murders by cop. Do you really think k they would have happened to white guys or asians? We don't need white lives matter or asian lives matter because they don't need to worry about cops shooting them and getting away with it. Their lives already matter. To far too many people black lives don't by the looks of things.

    Connecting this shooting to issues at Trump events merely shows how silly your post is. If the media did cause this by excusing earlier issues what did Trump cause by excusing punching people who disagree with him?

    Who is being called a racist that isn't a racist btw?

    Plenty of white people are shot by the police. The black community have a demographic crime problem and many have a contfrontational attitude to police. It's not a good mix.


  • #196
    FA Hayek
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    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    Yes, America has pretty much destroyed them.

    Syria? No american involvement there I am afriad.


  • #197
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    beans wrote: »
    Is that more by percentage of the population I wonder?

    No.


  • #198
    Gatling
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    Elmer Blooker wrote: »
    ..... meanwhile Obama is in Europe right now, something to do with "Russian aggression" apparently.

    Thrust you to post about your love for vladi Putin in a thread like .

    Shame
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  • #199
    beach_walker
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    Christy42 wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

    Shockingly more white people will get killed when they make up most of the population. This is why we use proportions.

    Aye
    Young black men were nine times more likely than other Americans to be killed by police officers in 2015

    They should really change the name to Black Men's Lives Matter. If you're gonna to well not focus on the endemic police shootings by campaigning against it in entirety (e.g. "All Lives Matter is racist!"), then makes sense to narrow it down to the most affected group.


  • #200
    conditioned games
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭conditioned games


    If a white person gets killed by a police officer it never gets reported in the media but if it's a black it is all over the news. The media inciting hatred is the worst offender in all of this. Black on black crime is the worst in the USA followed by black on white crime but guess what the media will run with.


  • #201
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    Plenty of white people are shot by the police. The black community have a demographic crime problem and many have a contfrontational attitude to police. It's not a good mix.

    They are disproportionately represented in the prison population as well.

    I'm sure that's the racist justice system that is for some reason only racist towards one race in particular.


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  • #202
    RasTa
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    This shows one of the cops being killed but pauses before the shot. However this shooter obviously has more training then the police officer considering he just walks up behind him.

    Wonder if these are ex military.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/jul/08/gunman-opens-fire-on-dallas-streets-video


  • #203
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    ceegee wrote: »
    more white people get killed by police officers than black people. This fact gets ignored by groups like BLM because it doesn't suit the narrative

    Proportional to there % of the populace, black people are killed more. Arrested more for the same crimes, serve longer sentences for the same crimes etc.


  • #204
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    conditioned games wrote: »
    If a white person gets killed by a police officer it never gets reported in the media but if it's a black it is all over the news. The media inciting hatred is the worst offender in all of this. Black on black crime is the worst in the USA followed by black on white crime but guess what the media will run with.

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=fresno+shooting+police+white+guy&oq=fresno+shooting+police+white+guy&aqs=chrome..69i57.10242j0j4&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    Yup no one reporting this at all. I love the one with the headline saying no one cares the most though. Looks great against the backdrop of all the other places reporting it.


  • #205
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    conditioned games wrote: »
    If a white person gets killed by a police officer it never gets reported in the media but if it's a black it is all over the news. The media inciting hatred is the worst offender in all of this. Black on black crime is the worst in the USA followed by black on white crime but guess what the media will run with.

    Well, I am sure if we have instances, where a white suspect is held down and shot point blank, it will make the news, or if there shot in front of the girl friend and kid, after calmly informing the officer they have legally possessed fire arm, and then reach for the wallet as instructed, and are then promptly shot in front of his girl friend and daughter, who are then held over night for no damn reason at all.

    BTW, in the 2nd instance he was pulled over for broken tail light, and was basically executed for that.


  • #206
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    FA Hayek wrote: »
    Syria? No american involvement there I am afriad.

    Except they armed people over there.....


  • #207
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Gatling wrote: »
    Thrust you to post about your love for vladi Putin in a thread like .
    I'm basically saying that America has very serious domestic problems and should get it's own house in order rather than telling the rest of the world how to run their affairs.
    edit: I have the radio on right now and am half listening to it but I can hear the words "Russian aggression" - laughable!!


  • #208
    FortySeven
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    FA Hayek wrote: »
    Syria? No american involvement there I am afriad.

    Is my sarc meter on the blink again?


  • #209
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Elmer Blooker wrote: »
    I'm basically saying that America has very serious domestic problems and should get it's own house in order rather than telling the rest of the world how to run their affairs.

    Same can be said for you know where .
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  • #210
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Elmer Blooker wrote: »
    edit: I have the radio on right now and am half listening to it but I can hear the words "Russian aggression" - laughable!!

    Not so laughable to the Crimean Tartars who are again having to flee Russian government oppression, after the same thing happened under bloody Stalin.


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  • #211
    [Deleted User]
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    RasTa wrote: »
    This shows one of the cops being killed but pauses before the shot. However this shooter obviously has more training then the police officer considering he just walks up behind him.

    Wonder if these are ex military.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/jul/08/gunman-opens-fire-on-dallas-streets-video

    Please be aware that video shows person being shot.

    Full unedited clip of shooting.

    https://streamable.com/pgpb


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