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Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,679 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
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    I would make Waterford marginal favourites.

    I wonder what Whiplash has been smoking...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Whiplash85


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I wonder what Whiplash has been smoking...:rolleyes:


    Well Jeff Tipp are 11/10 (-2) in PP at the minute. If you take out a teams free taker and main scoring threat and someone who averages in and around 4 points from play and who has scored 22 goals in 34 championship games (including those as substitute) well then that is why I would have Waterford slight favourites. Shouldn't be that hard to comprehend.

    If Wales were missing Gareth Bale or Portugal were missing Cristiano Ronaldo for their respective teams or they had to come off injured tomorrow night that would cause the line to shift with the bookmakers odds. The only reason I use that analogy is because Callinan is Tipps Marque Forward and match winner. Only for him against Galway last year Galway would have won by 10 points.

    The smart money is on Waterford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭cul beag


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
    Well Jeff Tipp are 11/10 (-2) in PP at the minute. If you take out a teams free taker and main scoring threat and someone who averages in and around 4 points from play and who has scored 22 goals in 34 championship games (including those as substitute) well then that is why I would have Waterford slight favourites. Shouldn't be that hard to comprehend.

    If Wales were missing Gareth Bale or Portugal were missing Cristiano Ronaldo for their respective teams or they had to come off injured tomorrow night that would cause the line to shift with the bookmakers odds. The only reason I use that analogy is because Callinan is Tipps Marque Forward and match winner. Only for him against Galway last year Galway would have won by 10 points.

    The smart money is on Waterford.

    Waterford at 11/8 is a great price and one I've taken some of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    If Callanan doesn't play or plays half fit we simply have to win this game, we've had a bad record in Munster Finals recently and after the league final defeat it would be very bad for confidence to loose another final, I think if we are to win the AI this year we must go through the front door, loosing the Munster final even if we win the QF we're in the exact same position as last year playing KK in the SF, we need to show progress from last year, the Clare game was a great confidence boost but now we have to show we are the real deal and back it up with a victory over Tipp, especially if it's a Tipp missing two vital players. I slightly fancy us for Sunday by 2-3 points think the lads have come on a good bit in the year and with Tipp missing Bubbles and not having a 100% fit Callanan but it will be close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭hurler on de ditch


    HillFarmer wrote: »
    Any word of how training is going in the camp?

    Just watched the full all Ireland semi last year again and Dunford had a serious second half.

    Is Stephen Bennet back to full fitness yet and if so would he be anywhere near starting or a first choice sub?
    With the likes of Devine and O Halloran I'd be interested to know the pecking order.

    Counting down the days til Sunday
    unfortunately the game was up a few minutes into the second half ,with kk getting the first two scores ,lead went from 2 to 4 points ,too much to do then ,even with 30 minutes left


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,620 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




    watch at 7.29 and see whos sitting down with a big smile on his face lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭waterford28


    thesultan wrote: »
    Is it only Marty og and Austin Flynn left from 59 team?

    Joe Harney Ballydurn corner back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Deise10


    U21 Team For Clare Game?

    1 Gavin Power
    2 Willie Hassessy
    3 Conor Prunty
    4 Darragh Lyons
    5 Micheal Harney
    6 Austin Gleeson
    7 Mark O Brien
    8 Mikey Kearney
    9 Andy Moloumby
    10 Shane Bennett
    11 Stevie Bennett
    12 Tom Devine
    13 Paddy Curran
    14 Dj Foran
    15 Conor Gleeson (sweeper)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Giveitfong


    Deise10 wrote: »
    U21 Team For Clare Game?

    1 Gavin Power
    2 Willie Hassessy
    3 Conor Prunty
    4 Darragh Lyons
    5 Micheal Harney
    6 Austin Gleeson
    7 Mark O Brien
    8 Mikey Kearney
    9 Andy Moloumby
    10 Shane Bennett
    11 Stevie Bennett
    12 Tom Devine
    13 Paddy Curran
    14 Dj Foran
    15 Conor Gleeson (sweeper)

    I would expect Colm Roche (a couple of brief appearances for the senior team already this year) to be at centre forward. I wouldn’t see Darragh Lyons as a corner back – most likely to see Conor Gleeson there as that’s where he has been operating for the senior team. I doubt if this team would need a sweeper but you might find Darragh Lyons operating as third midfielder or behind the midfield. Perhaps also Jordan Henley in goal instead of Gavin Power (better option in my view). Cormac Curran should also be in the frame, probably on the wing as target for puckouts.

    My team:
    1 Jordan Henley
    2 Willie Hahessy
    3 Conor Prunty
    4 Conor Gleeson
    5 Michael Harney
    6 Austin Gleeson
    7 Shane Bennett
    8 Mark O’Brien
    9 Tom Devine
    10 Mikey Kearney
    11 Colm Roche
    12 Cormac Curran
    13 Patrick Curran
    14 DJ Foran
    15 Stephen Bennett


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2


    Giveitfong wrote: »
    Deise10 wrote: »
    U21 Team For Clare Game?

    1 Gavin Power
    2 Willie Hassessy
    3 Conor Prunty
    4 Darragh Lyons
    5 Micheal Harney
    6 Austin Gleeson
    7 Mark O Brien
    8 Mikey Kearney
    9 Andy Moloumby
    10 Shane Bennett
    11 Stevie Bennett
    12 Tom Devine
    13 Paddy Curran
    14 Dj Foran
    15 Conor Gleeson (sweeper)

    I would expect Colm Roche (a couple of brief appearances for the senior team already this year) to be at centre forward. I wouldn t see Darragh Lyons as a corner back most likely to see Conor Gleeson there as that s where he has been operating for the senior team. I doubt if this team would need a sweeper but you might find Darragh Lyons operating as third midfielder or behind the midfield. Perhaps also Jordan Henley in goal instead of Gavin Power (better option in my view). Cormac Curran should also be in the frame, probably on the wing as target for puckouts.

    My team:
    1 Jordan Henley
    2 Willie Hahessy
    3 Conor Prunty
    4 Conor Gleeson
    5 Michael Harney
    6 Austin Gleeson
    7 Shane Bennett
    8 Mark O Brien
    9 Tom Devine
    10 Mikey Kearney
    11 Colm Roche
    12 Cormac Curran
    13 Patrick Curran
    14 DJ Foran
    15 Stephen Bennett
    I would think Molumby is ahead of Cormac Curran given he is on the co senior panel. I'd play Foran out around the half forward line where you have Curran but other than that your team is pretty much on the money, assuming all are fit of course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭cul beag


    Giveitfong wrote: »
    I would expect Colm Roche (a couple of brief appearances for the senior team already this year) to be at centre forward. I wouldn’t see Darragh Lyons as a corner back – most likely to see Conor Gleeson there as that’s where he has been operating for the senior team. I doubt if this team would need a sweeper but you might find Darragh Lyons operating as third midfielder or behind the midfield. Perhaps also Jordan Henley in goal instead of Gavin Power (better option in my view). Cormac Curran should also be in the frame, probably on the wing as target for puckouts.

    My team:
    1 Jordan Henley
    2 Willie Hahessy
    3 Conor Prunty
    4 Conor Gleeson
    5 Michael Harney
    6 Austin Gleeson
    7 Shane Bennett
    8 Mark O’Brien
    9 Tom Devine
    10 Mikey Kearney
    11 Colm Roche
    12 Cormac Curran
    13 Patrick Curran
    14 DJ Foran
    15 Stephen Bennett

    Roche will definitely start and I agree with you about Henley he's the lesser of two evils for goal. Power doesn't play there for his club and didn't look at all confident in there in the intermediate game versus Clare. Speaking of which Molumby was substituted at halftime in the same game having made zero impact on the game. I would expect him to start on Wens though. Don't see Cormac Curran making the first 15.
    As for Sunday we'll be selecting from a full strength squad which is great news and to be honest I can't see us being beaten. Without sounding over confident I think we'll be comfortable winners I don't see that Tipp forward line that's minus Bubbles and a struggling Callinan causing too much problems for our defense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭HatchetMan7


    1. Jordan Henley
    2. Willie Hahessy
    3. Conor Prunty
    4. Conor Gleeson
    5. Michael Harney
    6. Austin Gleeson
    7. Mark O'Brien
    8. Mikey Kearney
    9. Colm Roche
    10. Shane Bennett
    11. Tom Devine
    12. DJ Foran
    13. Patrick Curran
    14. Stephan Bennett
    15. Andy Moloumby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭JesusRef


    cul beag wrote: »
    Speaking of which Molumby was substituted at halftime in the same game having made zero impact on the game. I would expect him to start on Wens though. Don't see Cormac Curran making the first 15.

    He will do it if he feels like it but could turn his arse to a ball 5 yards away - questionable attitude as evidenced in the intermediate earlier in the year the U21 might not 'do it for him' now he is with the seniors - I have seen this with him at various age groups


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭HatchetMan7


    What about Jack Fagan is he back from injury. Does he play in the full forward line?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2


    JesusRef wrote: »
    cul beag wrote: »
    Speaking of which Molumby was substituted at halftime in the same game having made zero impact on the game. I would expect him to start on Wens though. Don't see Cormac Curran making the first 15.

    He will do it if he feels like it but could turn his arse to a ball 5 yards away - questionable attitude as evidenced in the intermediate earlier in the year the U21 might not 'do it for him' now he is with the seniors - I have seen this with him at various age groups
    Any manger worth his salt will either knock that out of a player or just not tolerate it. Unreal amount of talent in this particular group. any fellah with a bad attitude is easily dispensable. Never heard that about this lad myself so only speaking in a general sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭JesusRef


    robopaddy2 wrote: »
    Any manger worth his salt will either knock that out of a player or just not tolerate it. Unreal amount of talent in this particular group. any fellah with a bad attitude is easily dispensable. Never heard that about this lad myself so only speaking in a general sense.

    He has a lot of ability - I would say he is up there with the best performing players in the senior Club championship this year.
    He was good enough to be a minor in 2013.

    If Colm Roche popped the ball to him in the last play of normal time in the 2014 semi final we would have made a 2nd minor final in a row - he was up there with waterfords best performers on the day if not the best.

    That's why he is so frustrating on the bad days - and it is not just because things are going wrong it is just from an obvious lack of effort. When you have seen what he is actually capable of

    But he is young and that can be overcome.

    There is one player who is now a very important player for Waterford that had a similar attitude at underage -


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2


    JesusRef wrote: »
    robopaddy2 wrote: »
    Any manger worth his salt will either knock that out of a player or just not tolerate it. Unreal amount of talent in this particular group. any fellah with a bad attitude is easily dispensable. Never heard that about this lad myself so only speaking in a general sense.

    He has a lot of ability - I would say he is up there with the best performing players in the senior Club championship this year.
    He was good enough to be a minor in 2013.

    If Colm Roche popped the ball to him in the last play of normal time in the 2014 semi final we would have made a 2nd minor final in a row - he was up there with waterfords best performers on the day if not the best.

    That's why he is so frustrating on the bad days - and it is not just because things are going wrong it is just from an obvious lack of effort. When you have seen what he is actually capable of

    But he is young and that can be overcome.

    There is one player who is now a very important player for Waterford that had a similar attitude at underage -
    Its been our downfall over the past 20 years. Too many fellah's with bags of ability but thought they were god almighty. The new breed of lads that have come through seem a lot more committed and grounded to be fair. There are a lot better coaching structures in the county nowadays and younglads are thought the value of team work and appreciation for one another. I can guess who you are talking about there but I believe he is an all round good lad. His attitude and commitment cannot be questioned but temperament can be a problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭thesultan


    How is Stephen Bennett since form wise?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    Lads, how are we for injuries? Is Dara Fives ok? Is everyone else fit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Deise10


    Giveitfong wrote: »
    I would expect Colm Roche (a couple of brief appearances for the senior team already this year) to be at centre forward. I wouldn’t see Darragh Lyons as a corner back – most likely to see Conor Gleeson there as that’s where he has been operating for the senior team. I doubt if this team would need a sweeper but you might find Darragh Lyons operating as third midfielder or behind the midfield. Perhaps also Jordan Henley in goal instead of Gavin Power (better option in my view). Cormac Curran should also be in the frame, probably on the wing as target for puckouts.

    My team:
    1 Jordan Henley
    2 Willie Hahessy
    3 Conor Prunty
    4 Conor Gleeson
    5 Michael Harney
    6 Austin Gleeson
    7 Shane Bennett
    8 Mark O’Brien
    9 Tom Devine
    10 Mikey Kearney
    11 Colm Roche
    12 Cormac Curran
    13 Patrick Curran
    14 DJ Foran
    15 Stephen Bennett

    Gavin Power will be on goal id say, cant see Cormac Curran or Roche starting, Shane Bennett deffiently wont be wing back, Every waterford team plays with a sweeper now, could be lyons or gleeson, young Shanagher will need to be man marked


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Deise10


    Theres a good preview of the Senior match here irishtipz.weebly.com/previews.html
    Dosent say anything about waterford injuries?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭The blue blaa


    We have no injuries fives is grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2


    thesultan wrote: »
    How is Stephen Bennett since form wise?
    Don't know about county but saw him play for Ballysaggart a month or 2 ago, didn't have much of an impact as they played him in full forward line with very little supply of ball going in. Think he scored a point. Shane was the man that everything went through. I think Stephen struggling for form and confidence after all his injury troubles to be honest. Hopefully he can get it back with the u21s, don't expect him to see much action on Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,620 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Clare win the intermediate Munster title Wednesday night in extra time over Limerick. Will give them a big lift going into the u21 next Wednesday. There quietly confident of upsetting us once again in that grade.

    The killer for us is the 3 day turnaround for some of the players. Like last year we could be going in on a high or a low. What happens if the Munster final is a draw Sunday ??? They will surly postpone the under 21 game (but if we lose the senior replay we have to play the quarter final on Sunday 24th Jul, under 21 Munster final due to take place on Weds 27th Jul) There caught either way

    If we win Sunday there will be a huge crowd in Walsh Park on Wednesday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Clare win the intermediate Munster title Wednesday night in extra time over Limerick. Will give them a big lift going into the u21 next Wednesday. There quietly confident of upsetting us once again in that grade.

    The killer for us is the 3 day turnaround for some of the players. Like last year we could be going in on a high or a low. What happens if the Munster final is a draw Sunday ??? They will surly postpone the under 21 game (but if we lose the senior replay we have to play the quarter final on Sunday 24th Jul, under 21 Munster final due to take place on Weds 27th Jul) There caught either way

    If we win Sunday there will be a huge crowd in Walsh Park on Wednesday
    What's the point spending your life worrying about other counties and what their doing. Completely pointless. Concentrate on getting behind our lads, if we perform to our ability I believe we will be celebrating 2 wins in the space of a few days next week. We have as good hurlers as any other county.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Horseboxhead


    some pricks AS IF Andy moloumby was being paid to play for Waterford, ignorant shower of *****, Lad doing his best , definatly no Waterford fans there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Deise_2012


    Watched last years Munster final, I had to stop watching 12 minutes into the second half, the amount of silly passes we did and wides we had in the 2nd half was ridiculous. We were depending on Maurice for scores, we had Jake, Eddie Barrett and Brick on the pitch for work rate and Colin didn't have his shooting boots on. I'd be more confident going into this game Sunday, a fully fit team, our best forward line since 2007. Brick Paudie Shane Bennett, Paddy Curran, Maurice and Aussie floating around. I think the 2 young lads Shane and Paddy will be raring to go after the Clare game, both were pretty quiet. Callanan is gonna play but they're without bubbles who could get a point out of nowhere and our backs have been excellent all year. SOK, Shane and Darragh Fives, Noelie, Barry Coughlan, Philip and Tadhg. The oldest out of them is Shane Fives who's 27/28... They're gonna have another 3/4 years together and it's gonna be pretty tough to dislodge any of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭HillFarmer


    I watched Tips semi against Galway in 2015 last night, jesus Callnan was on fire from play.

    If Callnan brings that form Sunday he will need stopping. He's lethal in the air.
    Hopefully we can contain him like last year and if we can, we have to be there or there abouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Cake Man


    Some saying Calinan struggling for Sunday, others saying he'll be grand. Hard to know what is accurate but I'd be full sure he'll play. Definitely need to keep him quiet, it would go a long way to sealing victory.

    Nerves starting to build a little now, can't wait for Sunday.

    Watched some of last years Munster final the other day myself, we were doing really well up til about 55mins before Tipp started to pull away. Stephen Bennett and Dunford were through on goal but the former just narrowly kicked the sliotar wide of the far post and Dunfords shot was saved. Could've been a totally different second half had we taken either chance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Cake Man wrote: »
    Watched some of last years Munster final the other day myself, we were doing really well up til about 55mins before Tipp started to pull away. .

    Not trying to start a row here or anything, but I have to disagree, yes the scoreboard was tight up to the last 10-15 mins, but there was never a single time in that game where it looked to me as if Waterford were going to win, they played the entire game with the sole objective of not loosing, but never went about actually winning the game.

    FWIW I think Waterford have most certainly improved and evolved this year and Sunday really is a flip of a coin (13/8 Waterford is massive) but last year was just a matter of when Tipp pulled away not if.


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