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09-06-2016 9:31am

Honestly they are just bringing back some memorable characters for their victory lap. I can forgive their indulgence, they've deserved it

Antar Bolaeisk · 09-06-2016 10:09am

Deleted User wrote: »

Honestly they are just bringing back some memorable characters for their victory lap. I can forgive their indulgence, they've deserved it

Well, that and the spin-off

Evac101 · 09-06-2016 10:37am

The end of that episode felt off to me, I would have been much happier to find out that the machine had begun to mobilise the troops in anticipation of Harold giving the signal, rather then the "we've been doing this for ages" explanation which was presented. It raises too many questions for my peace of mind - where were these guys when the machine was *almost* deleted?, when did the machine achieve enough self-determination to assemble new teams and manage them?, etc. A few hints in earlier episodes (un-identified gunfire thinning the Samaritan ranks in the episode where they transferred it to the briefcase for example) would have gone a long way towards substantiating this story thread.

*Still only of my favourite series however and, in a lesser series, I probably wouldn't have even noticed.*

09-06-2016 11:47am

Honestly I would have preferred that they were being mobilised now, as opposed to them already acting.

I mean how long can it have been going? The machine has just gotten out of the case, PS3 array.

Ageyev · 09-06-2016 2:51pm

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Honestly they are just bringing back some memorable characters for their victory lap. I can forgive their indulgence, they've deserved it

Agreed. Same reason Elias' death was retconned, just to give him a few more solid scenes

Penn · 09-06-2016 3:24pm

Ageyev wrote: »

Agreed. Same reason Elias' death was retconned, just to give him a few more solid scenes

In fairness, almost all of Elias' scenes this season was to help direct Finch to do what he needs to do. To recognise that he needs to break his rules. While Root's death was what pushed him over the edge, it was Elias who really planted the seeds.

ixoy · 09-06-2016 9:39pm

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Honestly I would have preferred that they were being mobilised now, as opposed to them already acting.

Same. In fact I thought it would have been evidence that Harold had let the machine loose to realise its potential and that it contacted them. That'd make sense.

Why isn't Samaritan after them too? I know these guys don't know explicitly about Samaritan but it would hardly let someone with connections to the machine be let off and, unlike the NY gang, they didn't benefit from having blockers installed on their identities.
And have they been around since before the Machine went offline a few months ago?
For a carefully thought out show, this seemed sloppy.

10-06-2016 3:14pm

ixoy wrote: »

Same. In fact I thought it would have been evidence that Harold had let the machine loose to realise its potential and that it contacted them. That'd make sense.

Why isn't Samaritan after them too? I know these guys don't know explicitly about Samaritan but it would hardly let someone with connections to the machine be let off and, unlike the NY gang, they didn't benefit from having blockers installed on their identities.
And have they been around since before the Machine went offline a few months ago?
For a carefully thought out show, this seemed sloppy.

Yeah, I'm not going to let it effect my view on the show at all but was just surprised that the more obviously sensible writing option was not taken.

I was feeling that, from the introduction of Samaritan, the Machine's army would be the people which the team have helped over the years and that's how it would really win.

Rouge Harold is so enticing though and much more threatening.

DamienOB · 11-06-2016 12:21pm

I can't cope anymore - It's all getting too much.

If I never watch the last 2 episodes, does it really end?

:(:(:(:(:(:(

pixelburp · 11-06-2016 12:36pm

ixoy wrote: »

Same. In fact I thought it would have been evidence that Harold had let the machine loose to realise its potential and that it contacted them. That'd make sense.

Why isn't Samaritan after them too? I know these guys don't know explicitly about Samaritan but it would hardly let someone with connections to the machine be let off and, unlike the NY gang, they didn't benefit from having blockers installed on their identities.
And have they been around since before the Machine went offline a few months ago?
For a carefully thought out show, this seemed sloppy.

To be fair, Finch and Co were actively fighting or obstructing the actions of Samaritan at various points, their actions brought them into its sights. We know that Samaritan doesn't care about the irrelevant numbers - heck we know now it doesnt even care about the most Relevant number there can be - so another team working for the Machine could easily operate under its gaze, so long as the numbers didn't overlap with Samaritan's own plans.

I liked the introduction of the second team and it very belatedly answered a bit gap in the core concept: that the only "relevant" irrelevants were those situated in the New York area. Makes sense the Machine would try to spread its effectiveness where it could.

Have to say though, while some shows go out on a whimper (looking at you, Good Wife), here we're ending on an absolute high. Arguably the strongest season of the entire run I'd say. The 13 episode run has given the show purpose and pacing that otherwise these 22 episode series simply can't maintain. The more this becomes the norm, the more TV will improve I think.

Ageyev · 12-06-2016 5:29pm

DamienOB wrote: »

I can't cope anymore - It's all getting too much.

If I never watch the last 2 episodes, does it really end?

:(:(:(:(:(:(

Fingers crossed the Washington DC team leads to a spinoff.

miralize · 12-06-2016 10:40pm

Ageyev wrote: »

DamienOB wrote: »

I can't cope anymore - It's all getting too much.

If I never watch the last 2 episodes, does it really end?

:(:(:(:(:(:(

Fingers crossed the Washington DC team leads to a spinoff.

I would watch the **** out of that for Jimmi Simpson

Ageyev · 15-06-2016 4:13am

Gobsmacked. Tears and goosebumps yet again. I've no rational response.

Mr E · 15-06-2016 8:55am

Unreal. With an extra 2 minute epilogue after that final scene, it could have served as the series finale (and I still would have loved it).

It's going to take all my willpower not to look at the promo for next week. I have no idea what's going to happen (or what it will be about).

I wonder if Greer was found and revived?

Agent Coulson · 15-06-2016 12:28pm

The finale will be either a total let down or truly amazing I'm going totally amazing just like the whole season so far.

krustydoyle · 15-06-2016 2:49pm

That was absolutely brilliant... Harold is a shell of the man we seen at the start of season 1

Still have a bad feeling they all won't survive though

ixoy · 15-06-2016 10:41pm

The line about John living on borrowed time is pretty ominous.

On the other hand, I'm fairly sure Fusco is immortal.

Itssoeasy · 15-06-2016 10:51pm

I loved the episode from last night.

I find it amazing that had the machine not existed that Carter wouldn't have died and root would be alive and working with Samaritan and John would die. Fusco wouldn't have been given a second chance after the HR stuff and shaw would be in the same job she was in at the start. And Harold wouldn't have meet grace.

With both Samaritan and the machine no longer in use those that mean that team machine are safe ? As with Samaritan gone they won't be sending assets to kill them. But then again the opening scene of this series looks like it show the end which didn't look like team machine just went on their merry way.

We shall see I suppose.

ixoy · 15-06-2016 11:11pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

But then again the opening scene of this series looks like it show the end which didn't look like team machine just went on their merry way.

We also heard the Machine talking so the Machine will live on in some form, probably.

squonk · 16-06-2016 8:42am

Good episode again but I'm spoiled now after some of the earlier ones so it didn't feel as epic as some of those. I'm surprised Greer chose that particular method to kill Harold. It didn't make much sense to sacrifice himself as well as Harold when a swift bullet to the head would have done just as well. It's still nice having Root around in spirit though via the machine. I've no idea what to expect next week. Perhaps there are some unforeseen implications to killing both machines? I'm worried about John at this stage.

Gingervitis · 16-06-2016 9:53am

I'm thinking those copies of the machines in the Faraday cage in the subway will be involved somehow...would explain why the subway gets attacked (as seen from the opening scene of season 5)

16-06-2016 10:10am

Gingervitis wrote: »

I'm thinking those copies of the machines in the Faraday cage in the subway will be involved somehow...would explain why the subway gets attacked (as seen from the opening scene of season 5)

They're hardly copies though??
Look at the level of compression required for the machine previously.
Could the machine not sever the Subway net link to shield itself?

Harold loaded the virus directly onto Samaritan, so unless it has been remotely backed up it's toast.

Itssoeasy · 16-06-2016 1:55pm

I just bit the bullet and watched the trailer for the final episode. If you haven't seen it oh wow the allergies will be out in force. Damn it.

Yakuza · 16-06-2016 5:35pm

I'm avoiding any previews of the finale, liked the second half of this week's one. It took a while to get going, but once it did, it didn't let up. I liked the "road not travelled" revelations of the main characters.

Agent Coulson · 21-06-2016 7:54pm

I'm thinking I might stay up and watch the Finale live tonight I haven't looked forward to a tv shows finale this much in a long time.

Mr E · 21-06-2016 8:11pm

I'd love to do that but I have an important meeting tomorrow (and I can' t be yawning!)

I'll be watching it over breakfast though, really looking forward to it.

Ageyev · 21-06-2016 10:38pm

I watched one of the episodes live a few weeks ago. The video quality wasn't really worth it tbh. Would rather wait to watch it in HD-ish. I am very excited however. Haven't been this nervous since the final episode of Breaking Bad.

Has anyone seen or heard of mainstream attention for PoI this side of the Atlantic? It's a moot point at this stage but I havent come across much coverage to suggest it has a big audience and that's just crazy. Guess the TV market is too flooded with dragons and whatever.

Agent Coulson · 21-06-2016 10:42pm

CBS All Access will be streaming it live if you can get it.

Ageyev · 21-06-2016 11:36pm

Few google hits suggest I need either Apple TV or Roku neither of which I have. Cheers tho

Itssoeasy · 21-06-2016 11:45pm

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Well what a five seasons and let's hope the show gets an ending that is right and will feel right for the characters we've come to love.

Ageyev · 22-06-2016 12:02am

Looking at that image above reminds me I'd thought Zoe Morgan might have made an appearance by now. I havent looked up any preview spoilers so maybe she'll show up.

Occono · 22-06-2016 12:27am

Ageyev wrote: »

Looking at that image above reminds me I'd thought Zoe Morgan might have made an appearance by now. I havent looked up any preview spoilers so maybe she'll show up.

Actress was busy on The 100 IIRC.

Agent Coulson · 22-06-2016 1:52am

Perfection.

I won't lie I shed a tear.

Axwell · 22-06-2016 3:18am

Have loved this show so much from day one and I have to say this season while I enjoyed it immensely some of the episodes I feel I wasn't as much in awe as some people on here, maybe because I knew the end was coming or because in the middle they seemed to try wrap some things up and it lost the intensity of the first few episodes..but that finale was just incredible.

I am literally lost for words after it, such a perfect ending to the show and a roller coaster of emotions. I don't think at this moment I could have hoped or expected it to end any better than it did.

I think its only going to hit home when next week comes and I realise that there wont be another episode to watch.

Ageyev · 22-06-2016 5:00am

There has been a trend in these quasi-filmesque TV shows since The Sopranos (through The Wire, Breaking Bad and others) to portray 'The Hero' as ambivalent and morally ambiguous.

PoI was about Finch and his moral philosophy. He tended toward good and it brushed off on those around him and affected their actions.

It was Finch's willingness to commit that final act that sealed it for me. John was great but we've seen that redemptive soldier character before...

Wowza! This was a special one. There were tears.

Mr E · 22-06-2016 7:30am

Wow. How do I go into work after that? I'm f**king miserable.

History will be kind to PoI and people will appreciate it more after it's gone.

I hope there is no more, I really do.
No continuations with a different team, no reboots.
Anything after this will dilute its legacy.

krustydoyle · 22-06-2016 12:57pm

What an ending... i bawled like a baby.. its only a tv show.. but easily in my top 3 of all time..

don ramo · 22-06-2016 3:09pm

that was a great end to a great show, like someone said earlier its weird that this show doesnt have a larger audience, even in america its a very underrated show, it has easily been (for me anyway) the best show on network tv in america for the last few years, such a shame to see it go, but i think it has gone out on top, something which a lot of shows dont get the privilege to do these days,

it was great to see finch finally move on and go be with grace, he was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, but he was rightly spared, he choose to give up his life, he could have just lived a normal life, but he choose to sacrifice his happiness to help others, i think he gave up more than anyone else to help the machine, john, shaw and root were soldiers, and they got their own redemption through harold, they knew how much he was responsible for who they had become,

sad to see johns end, there just wasnt a way out in that scenario, he died a hero just like his father did, and he has saved so many lives that he will still live on, long after his death,

it seems shaw is the new admin for the machine, and will continue saving people with the machines help, i wonder if fusco would still be working with her, and if harold even knows that the machine beat samaritan and had returned to watch over everyone,

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 22-06-2016 8:47pm

I have to give the series finale a 3.5 / 10

Season 5 has unfortunately been quite bad (since Season 4 tbh). The show had such a great story concept but the CBS overlords screwed it up. There are so many plot holes and loose ends that it's difficult to find emotional closure.

The preview trailers setup for a large subway fight but nope, 5 rounds fired and that was the end of it (Budget constraints most likely), also, how the hell did Blackwell get onto the train?? Nonsense!

The interactions between Finch and Reese at times felt too forced, there was no real emotional connection there. Similar to that horrible love scene between Carter and Reese, that was physically discomforting bad.

The CGI for the rocket, Reese being shot blood splatter and explosion was terrible. Did they use MS Paint for the effects?

Reese has a proper send off and for that I am happy.

Why they finished the series open ended is beyond me. Overall I am happy to see this end because it could have only gotten worse if it had continued.

ixoy · 22-06-2016 10:25pm

Brilliant finale. It covered a sweep of things: John making the final sacrifice, Shaw shedding a tear, Fusco finding peace and acceptance, and Harold getting that wonderful happy ending.

I'm glad Samaritan had a back up and I'm also glad we didn't waste a load of time on a big gun battle - there's no need for it. This was about their interactions with each other and the Machine. Harold's chat with the Machine about the meaning of life was beautifully done.

One of the most satisfying show finales I've seen and I'm sure myself, and others here, will be voting for it in the TV finales.

Nice choice in music by the way when Harold is facing his demise on the rooftop. It's a track called "Bunsen Burner" and it happens to be from the film "Ex Machina", which is one of the best films about AI. A bit of a nod from the best show about AI?

Quintis · 22-06-2016 10:27pm

I loved that the background music at the start of the episode and throughout Finches scenes was the same music from EX Machina when the whoel esperiment collapses in at the end, a nice little tie in

squonk · 23-06-2016 12:15am

I came on here to read people's reactions. I thought it was a great finalé. I'm still thinking about it and it stopped me in my tracks and, while I didn't shed a tear, I've come away feeling more affected by the ending of a show than I have in a long time. John's end was hard to watch. I'm coming back to say more tomorrow but I too want it left as is. No reboots, no follow on seasons, no movies. It was a fine piece of television. I'll absolutely be going back to rewatch in time.

CastorTroy · 23-06-2016 12:32am

Great series finale. And I'm delighted they finished it since they had completed the episodes before the cancellation was announced.

When Finch was saved all I was saying to the tv was "Go to Grace!" Glad he got that ending.

Will miss this series.

DubTony · 23-06-2016 1:21am

It's strange but I'm quite ambivalent about the show ending.
I think it was the whole Samaritan story and the feeling I had of how unlikely it was, despite the fact that I'd been watching a show about an over-reaching AI for 3 seasons. For me Samaritan was like a bad conspiracy theory that then had too many people involved, making it all the more unlikely.
I suppose what I'm saying is that after Samaritan was introduced, I just didn't believe the show any more. Sorry to say, but Person of Interest became my go to "fall asleep watching" show for quite a few episodes.

But thinking about it now, it had to have been the execution of the Samaritan story. I think from its introduction, it felt awkward and rushed. The HR storyline was much more convincing for me. Samaritan's men, dressed in black, just turning up every other episode with guns blazing was all a bit comic book.

I'm surprised to say that I probably won't miss it despite being enthralled by it for almost 3 seasons. C'est la vie.

squonk · 23-06-2016 8:55am

A few hours one I think the finale was great. It was less apocalyptic than I expected but quite profound really. I think it did what it did very well, namely crystalising the entire motivations of the main characters. I haven't a lot more to say really. I think this was a great finale and it's great, and a little rare, to see a show go out on it's own terms and at the top of it's game.

I'm not sure I'm happy to see the machine survive. I suppose if it didn't something else would come along however having the machine destroy both itself and Samaritan would have been more of a fitting end in my book. I'm guessing that Team Machine is now Fusco, Shaw and Bear. Finch deserves his freedom.

So, yeah, sad it's gone but delighted it left on it's terms and I think it's legacy will be great.

23-06-2016 9:10am

I love how that machine taught itself, knowing that it's back up would not have Harold to teach it the morality again.

The NY team is Finch, Bear and new leader Shaw but there will be teams all over now

D0NNELLY · 23-06-2016 2:55pm

Binge watching s1 to s05 since our hols in May, wished i hadnt rushed through now its finished. Jealous of you who watched over the last 6 years.

Antar Bolaeisk · 23-06-2016 4:44pm

Brilliant finale to an absolutely fantastic show.

pixelburp · 27-06-2016 1:04pm

Belatedly watched the finale, and while it seemed a little strange that the Samaritan showdown was a little understated to the point of being a bit of an anticlimax, in many other respects this was the right kind of series finale: one that put its characters front & centre, giving them all a sense of emotional closure and a muted goodbye. Nothing celebratory mind you; given some people's sacrifices, it would have rung false for everyone to walk away ostensibly happy.

The door was left slightly ajar for a season 6 I guess, but honestly it would seem a little disingenuous to try and keep the flame burning after that ending. Shaw walking off, with a new purpose as The Machine's NY conduit seems like a closing off the story as a whole. About as close to 'walking off into the sunset' as you can get given the scenario.

aine1980 · 09-07-2016 10:43pm

What a great piece of television, have just finished binge watching the last season and I'm glad I waited to see it altogether.. it definitely didn't disappoint & will be missed!

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