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E3 2016 - Games only discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Doge


    Anyword about the games footage we seen of Days Gone, was it from the PS4 or the PS4 Neo.

    I really like the look of it but I am nervous that it could be PS4 Neo footage.

    Sony have came out and said that all their PSVR Demos are running on the original PS4 and not on the Neo, so it wouldn't surprise me if this was actually on the stock PS4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Doge


    Just finished the RE7 demo there.
    Played it in the dark with headphones on.

    Thought it would be scarier tbh and I completed it in 30 mins really taking my time. Felt it should have been longer.


    The graphics are excellent though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Why would you turn around and shoot max 10 zombies but let 30-50 get closer than they would have if you hadn't started shooting.


    That's literally all I can think about when I think of that Sons Of Anarzombie game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    Did Fromsoft have a stand at E3 or do we know what they are working on these days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    I've been a zombie nut for the best part of a decade, if not more, but it's getting tiring at this stage that they're in everything. It just feels like lazy storytelling now.

    Agreed, and if anything, the good games can get lost it the muck. I'd entirely dismissed dying light and only gave it a go because of game sharing. Turns out its one of my favourite games of this console generation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Why would you turn around and shoot max 10 zombies but let 30-50 get closer than they would have if you hadn't started shooting.


    That's literally all I can think about when I think of that Sons Of Anarzombie game.

    I'd say that was purely just to repeatedly show the number of zombies and how they move etc. When you're actually playing, it'll probably just be a case of running like f*ck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Penn wrote: »
    I'd say that was purely just to repeatedly show the number of zombies and how they move etc. When you're actually playing, it'll probably just be a case of running like f*ck.

    Ah yeah, I'm just being awkward. It did look insane the way they poured out, to be fair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    I just wanted to point out a few games that I thought looked fantastic that probably haven't received much coverage.

    I Am Setsuna



    Basically a love letter to fans of the SNES JRPGs. I've heard some great impressions on this. The only disappointment is that it's not coming out on Vita in the west. Seems like a perfect fit for it. It's coming out on PS4 everywhere along with Vita in Japan.

    Manifold Garden



    From what I could tell, this game seems to be a puzzle game where like the witness, you can go anywhere. The art is really cool. Easy Allies had footage of the game (Youtube video isn't up yet) and it looked so good I thought.

    Aragami



    Inspired by Tenchu. Enough said.

    There are a few others like Kingdom Come Deliverance but I honestly wouldn't even know where to start with it.


  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    Word is Dead Rising 4 isn't exactly exclusive. Could be timed.

    https://twitter.com/CapcomVancouver/status/743524640866213888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Word is Dead Rising 4 isn't exactly exclusive. Could be timed.

    https://twitter.com/CapcomVancouver/status/743524640866213888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    Only for a year it seems.

    On the subject of Manifold Garden, I've been following the development of that game for years. It appeared on TIGForums back in late 2013 under the name Relativity and he's documented his work on it since. May be of interest to some folk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    tok9 wrote: »
    Aragami

    Inspired by Tenchu. Enough said.

    That looks quite nice actually. F*cking loved Tenchu 2 and there's definitely a smack of it off this new game. Will keep an eye out for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    Word is Dead Rising 4 isn't exactly exclusive. Could be timed.

    This seems odd to me. Has a Dead Rising appeared on playstation before?

    I just get the feeling that this means exclusive to the xbox store and then it'll go to steam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    tok9 wrote: »
    This seems odd to me. Has a Dead Rising appeared on playstation before?

    I just get the feeling that this means exclusive to the xbox store and then it'll go to steam.

    Yeah Dead Rising 2 was on PS3. 1 and 3 are exclusives. 4 will be on PS4 later like Tomb Raider.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9




    Edit: Updating as they cut the Manifold Garden segment into it's own video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Just saw the E3 thingy for Mafia 3. Looks decent but the feckin developer gave away the entire plot in the first minute, the jackass! Totally unnessecary.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,157 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    There was an E3 trailer for wild guns reloaded. It's a remake of one of the best SNES games ever made. It now supports 4 player, has widescreen and new pixel art rather than the ****ing awful adobe illustrator art that passes for videogame art these days.

    The SNES game goes for a fortune these days so great to have a cheaper way to play it:



  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    Some gameplay footage of inside. I have to admit being slightly disappointed that it's so similar to Limbo. I loved that game but I think I was expecting something else here.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,157 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I didn't think Limbo was all that great. some later puzzles were just poorly designed and the narrative pay off... well there was no narrative pay off, the end was dumb.

    In other news my sixth sense for sniffing out a game engine is still working. I said the new Zelda looked like it was using the Xenoblade Chronicles X engine and it turns out Monolith software are working on the new Zelda.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,436 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    Days Gone - Digital Foundry analysis.

    By the looks of things this will probably be much better on the Neo. Frequent frame rate drops into the twenties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Its like some game exec looked at the swirling mass of zombies from World War Z and said 'lets make a game of that'.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,436 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Its like some game exec looked at the swirling mass of zombies from World War Z and said 'lets make a game of that'.
    Which I am really cool with as long as the console has the juice needed to do it right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Days Gone - Digital Foundry analysis.

    By the looks of things this will probably be much better on the Neo. Frequent frame rate drops into the twenties.


    The bodies were vanishing so fast you could see the snake-like trail... and even with that they couldn't keep the framerate up? I mean they can freeze ragdolls after a certain point to keep resources down. Also that was like that absolute worst time to be shoulder aiming... should have been hip firing at such close range with target-rich enviornment. But let me make a reallly risky wager that this is has no hip fire at all.

    So let's see
    • QTEs
    • uninspired zombie setting
    • no hip fire
    • 30fps (and less)
    • ps4.0 for the players™

    Yep, it'll make loads of money.
    Which I am really cool with as long as the console has the juice needed to do it right.

    Some optimisation and a PC port would sort this out.
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    There was an E3 trailer for wild guns reloaded. It's a remake of one of the best SNES games ever made. It now supports 4 player, has widescreen and new pixel art rather than the ****ing awful adobe illustrator art that passes for videogame art these days.

    The SNES game goes for a fortune these days so great to have a cheaper way to play it:


    That looks really damn cool. Although I want to completely destroy the game with mouse aiming like one can with House of the Dead :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭joe123


    tok9 wrote: »


    Edit: Updating as they cut the Manifold Garden segment into it's own video.

    Love the Easy Allies crew (formerly Gametrailers). They seem to have genuine passion for what they do and are funny guys too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Hmm, seems a bit daft for DF to be doing any kind of tech breakdown of what's clearly pre-alpha footage of a title with no-release date and to then go on about Naughty Dog's tech when Bend are using a modified version of Unreal Engine 4 for the project.

    Hell, the comparisons with the zombie hordes in World War Z are even pretty accurate considering the ones in-game look pretty canned from the footage shown so far.

    As for Wild Guns, that can join the list with Gunstar Heroes of shooters I need to play that Retr0 keeps banging on about. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    joe123 wrote: »
    Love the Easy Allies crew (formerly Gametrailers). They seem to have genuine passion for what they do and are funny guys too.

    Ya I'm a huge fan of theirs. If you haven't seen the Yakuza 0 impression, I'd highly recommend checking that out. It's very funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Doodleking


    So the trailer of Kanye West's game "Only one" was released, to my surprise. Is there an exact release date? Anybody knows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    I don't think there's a date. Could end up being a nice game, even if it is an odd premise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Well when he showed the first trailer for it at his fashion show thing a few months ago, he felt people didn't applaud enough for it and made them watch the trailer again (they applauded it more the second time, probably because they knew they'd have to watch it a third time otherwise).

    Kanye be cray-cray. I appreciate his intent behind the game, but I doubt it'll be anything of any real substance, even for a mobile game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Yeah, he does himself no favours. The best thing to hope for is that the developers have the talent to turn it a good game, but I wouldn't hold my breath. You never know, I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Doge


    Days Gone - Digital Foundry analysis.

    By the looks of things this will probably be much better on the Neo. Frequent frame rate drops into the twenties.



    I wonder how many other games would drop like the this if we analyzed them?

    If it wasnt for the fps counter i wouldnt have noticed any dropped frames.

    And its a recorded live stream they're analyzing also, so its not the best source to analyze, a 30fps stream at that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Yeah, he does himself no favours. The best thing to hope for is that the developers have the talent to turn it a good game, but I wouldn't hold my breath. You never know, I guess.

    I think by making the game about his own mother, it'll be far too personal.

    You're trying to guide his mother into Heaven. It's not like if you fail they're going to show her falling down to Hell or anything :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Doge wrote: »
    I wonder how many other games would drop like the this if we analyzed them?

    If it wasnt for the fps counter i wouldnt have noticed any dropped frames.

    And its a recorded live stream they're analyzing also, so its not the best source to analyze, a 30fps stream at that.
    They say it's a 60hz feed they were able to capture at an E3 press event at around the 02:00 mark in the video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Penn wrote: »
    I think by making the game about his own mother, it'll be far too personal.

    You're trying to guide his mother into Heaven. It's not like if you fail they're going to show her falling down to Hell or anything :D

    Yep. If someone walks into the room and asks what are you playing, like.. "It's the form Kanye West's grief is taking." I don't think it's something you can sell, or ask other people to invest in, emotionally. Surrounding yourself with Yes Men leads to this kind of thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭Benzino


    Doge wrote: »
    I wonder how many other games would drop like the this if we analyzed them?

    If it wasnt for the fps counter i wouldnt have noticed any dropped frames.

    And its a recorded live stream they're analyzing also, so its not the best source to analyze, a 30fps stream at that.

    It's also not even out yet, so any performance analysis is pointless. But I guess they have to write about something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Benzino wrote: »
    It's also not even out yet

    I've heard that one before. Do we need another downgrade montage video?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,157 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Performance analysis on demos is pointless really. One of the very last thing to happen before a game goes gold is optimisation so even a badly performing demo can change drastically before release. For an example check out digital foundrys analysis of the God of War 3 demo and the final product to see just how much it improved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭Benzino


    I've heard that one before. Do we need another downgrade montage video?

    Not comparable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Doodleking


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Penn wrote: »
    I think by making the game about his own mother, it'll be far too personal.

    You're trying to guide his mother into Heaven. It's not like if you fail they're going to show her falling down to Hell or anything :D

    Yep. If someone walks into the room and asks what are you playing, like.. "It's the form Kanye West's grief is taking." I don't think it's something you can sell, or ask other people to invest in, emotionally. Surrounding yourself with Yes Men leads to this kind of thing.
    I think vice versa. Personal is always sold. When you can relate to it, it's always appealing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Doodleking wrote: »
    I think vice versa. Personal is always sold. When you can relate to it, it's always appealing.

    In music yeah. In games I dunno, but I'll give it a go when it comes out. I wonder if it'll have original music from him. You'd presume it would, but, I don't know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Doodleking


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Doodleking wrote: »
    I think vice versa. Personal is always sold. When you can relate to it, it's always appealing.

    In music yeah. In games I dunno, but I'll give it a go when it comes out. I wonder if it'll have original music from him. You'd presume it would, but, I don't know.
    I hope I hope. I'm waiting for the soundtrack even more than for a game itself :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Grayditch wrote: »
    In music yeah. In games I dunno, but I'll give it a go when it comes out. I wonder if it'll have original music from him. You'd presume it would, but, I don't know.

    Well part of the game seems to be similar to Robot Unicorn Attack. So they'll never beat the music from that game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Jesus, I don't need that song back in my life. It was the perfect choice, though.


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