ITV FTA from Nov 1st

Tony · 21-10-2005 4:07pm #1

A reliable source (Big Paddy ):) tells me that ITV will be FTA from Nov 1st . I've checked this out with a few sources who confirmed this.

all I have to say is yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww:)

DMC · 21-10-2005 4:09pm

Free installations all round if yer wrong?

L1011 · 21-10-2005 4:29pm

DMC wrote:

Free installations all round if yer wrong?

I'd settle for borrowing a decent signal meter to fix my rain fading Hotbird:p

Ronan|Raven · 21-10-2005 4:35pm

Great news!

bigpaddy2004 · 21-10-2005 4:55pm

Tony wrote:

A reliable source (Big Paddy ):) tells me that ITV will be FTA from Nov 1st . I've checked this out with a few sources who confirmed this.

all I have to say is yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww:)

Tony...ya beat me to it!! Your gonna have ta get me a pint for this one!!

Tony · 21-10-2005 5:17pm

bigpaddy2004 wrote:

Tony...ya beat me to it!! Your gonna have ta get me a pint for this one!!

Deal

djpaul · 21-10-2005 5:23pm

Yee-hawwwwwwwwww! Excelent News:D

Thanx Tony!

Capt'n Midnight · 21-10-2005 5:34pm

Won't someone think of us poor FTV card holders,
our cards are only good for two channels now

FTA , getting better evey day

yeaaa !!!!

[edit - me not like limit of 15 images]

Our man in Havana · 21-10-2005 6:06pm

That was €20 well spent eh Mossy!

bigpaddy2004 · 21-10-2005 6:06pm

I wonder will this have a large impact on the value of fta cards now that itv will be free to air?

Dr. Nick · 21-10-2005 6:34pm

Through 'other channels'?

watty · 21-10-2005 6:36pm

I wonder will it have a big impact on UCG's Chorus/NTL operation.

And most folks looking for ITV/BBC or on Analog don't yet seem to know about BBC3, BBC4, BBC24, BBC Parliment (sometines caries US CSPAN), CBBC, Cbeebies, ITV3, ITV2, MM and ITV4..

Or indeed all the other FTA Satellite.
Vault, POP, Tiny POP, Chart Hits, Fizz, U
Matinee/Bad movies, True Movies, Reality TV, Travel
CNN, Euronews, Sky News
Various religion
Various ethnic
70+ radio stations.

I think even Sky does a poor job of selling Satellite compared with Cable/MMDS.

Foggy43 · 21-10-2005 6:45pm

Why are you, or should I say some of you, so excited about having ITV?

DMC · 21-10-2005 6:46pm

watty wrote:

I think even Sky does a poor job of selling Satellite compared with Cable/MMDS.

Well, the best advertising is word of mouth. Costs nothing. And how many have been "impressed" with a friends/relatives Sky's offering that they get it themselves.

The product sells itself to the masses.

Charles Slane · 21-10-2005 6:47pm

Great news !

So I guess that'll mean that ITV2 and ITV4 will also be FTA. I wonder if any or all of them will arrive on the Irish EPG.

Mossy Monk · 21-10-2005 6:49pm

Bond-007 wrote:

That was €20 well spent eh Mossy!

your point is?
there is still football on five

DMC · 21-10-2005 6:52pm

Molly Dawson wrote:

Why are you, or should I say some of you, so excited about having ITV?

Free is good. FTA is even better.
Yes, ITV is clearly not as good as it used to be, but, it has programmes that people want to watch (like 'em or not) Not my cup of tea, but there is a strong viewership for ITV programmes

Its channels like ITV1,2,3, and 4 becoming free-to-air that makes satellite installers by shed-fuls of FTA receivers. To "refusniks", it gives them an option of cheap and non-recurring charges for digital TV.

DMC · 21-10-2005 6:56pm

Also, I'll add....

Its part of the Irish psyche to get more telly. Ever since our fathers and grandfathers ventured up on chimneys with Band I and III aerials pointing North for the BBC and UTV and Telly Welly Wales in the 1950's, we've always seeked out more telly.

I'm proud to continue with that tradition.

Tony · 21-10-2005 7:11pm

Molly Dawson wrote:

Why are you, or should I say some of you, so excited about having ITV?

I think you can guess why I am excited.

Foggy43 · 21-10-2005 7:13pm

Hang on a minute! You are loosing me here. ITV is available on Terestrial Freeview. The only link Sky have with this is they are joint shareholders of Freeview?

The only info I have is ITV4 opens on Nov. 1st.

Tony · 21-10-2005 7:15pm

Molly Dawson wrote:

Hang on a minute! You are loosing me here. ITV is available on Terestrial Freeview. The only link Sky have with this is they are joint shareholders of Freeview?

The only info I have is ITV4 opens on Nov. 1st.

you've lost me?

Foggy43 · 21-10-2005 7:17pm

OK! Are you saying it will be available on SkyDigital in the Irish Republic?

DMC · 21-10-2005 7:17pm

Freeview DTT is not (widely) available in the Republic. Only on fringe areas.

Also, a lot of people have hung onto Chorus or NTL just for UTV/ITV1.
Bye bye cable....

It's a HUGE deal in Ireland.

Tony · 21-10-2005 7:30pm

Molly Dawson wrote:

OK! Are you saying it will be available on SkyDigital in the Irish Republic?

No its free to air, available on any free to air receiver with a dish poining at the astra 2 group of satellites.

Mossy Monk · 21-10-2005 7:32pm

Molly Dawson wrote:

OK! Are you saying it will be available on SkyDigital in the Irish Republic?

no one said that. it will be available through Other Channels at least*

*i am sceptical about things like this. i am a wait and see type when it comes to the UK terrestrials being available over here via satellite

Dr. Nick · 21-10-2005 7:33pm

Tony, before those Dollar signs in your eyes get in the way ;o , do you know if they'll be on epg or other channels?

edit - now answered to my satisfaction, thanks.

bigpaddy2004 · 21-10-2005 7:53pm

Dr. Nick wrote:

Tony, before those Dollar signs in your eyes get in the way ;o , do you know if they'll be on epg or other channels?

edit - now answered to my satisfaction, thanks.

Other channels only, they will not be on the EPG.

Tony · 21-10-2005 7:53pm

Dr. Nick wrote:

Tony, before those Dollar signs in your eyes get in the way ;o , do you know if they'll be on epg or other channels?

edit - now answered to my satisfaction, thanks.

do you really think you will get an answer from me posting in a fashion like that?

Foggy43 · 21-10-2005 8:13pm

Mossy, Tony!
Got the picure! It maybe available in 'Other channels'!

Possibly some good news I can tell someone in Ireland. I set it up in 'other channels' while I was there in the summer.
I suppose it is a small inconvenience searching through 'other channels' for the BBC's and ITV's.

If only we could have the RTE's here in the UK.

One needs technical guidance here :eek:
Yes! I have heard of the Astra Group of satellites. Astra 2A, 2B and so on. Which one is SkyDigital? Don't tell me it is 2D
I thought Free to View in regards to Satellite is: - On SkyDigital you still need a 'Free View' card. But all you will receive are channels that are not encrypted. Is this statement correct?

Dr. Nick · 21-10-2005 8:13pm

Thanks Paddy. Not sure what you mean Tony, no offence meant!

Tony · 21-10-2005 8:46pm

Dr. Nick wrote:

Thanks Paddy. Not sure what you mean Tony, no offence meant!

Fair enough but I was offended by the $ remark. No hard feelings

Tony · 21-10-2005 8:47pm

Molly Dawson wrote:

Which one is SkyDigital? Don't tell me it is 2D

Sky digital uses all satellites in the group including eurobird

Mossy Monk · 21-10-2005 9:02pm

Molly Dawson wrote:

I thought Free to View in regards to Satellite is: - On SkyDigital you still need a 'Free View' card. But all you will receive are channels that are not encrypted. Is this statement correct?

you are half correct

a FTV card (Free To View) is needed to watch ITV, Channel 4 and five on satellite now as they are encrypted

when ITV goes FTA (Free To Air) no card is needed to watch it just like the BBC's as they will not be encrypted

hope that clears it up for you

Capt'n Midnight · 21-10-2005 11:57pm

Tony wrote:

Fair enough but I was offended by the $ remark. No hard feelings

<cough>€<cough>:p

Seriously It's just sinking in - Channel 4 will be about the only decent channel that NTL basic will offer that you won't be able to get free. Pity NTL don't do an option for Broadband and Phone without the TV.

NTL BASIC CABLE
Aerial - RTE 1 / Network 2 / TV3 /TG4

FTA
BBC1 (all regions)
BBC2
UTV actually one of the better ITV channels - but FTA will mean you can choose to watch something else if you want to avoid politics and sometimes the films on on a half an hour earlier.
Sky News

Channels that won't be FTA Some people will miss them more than others.
Channel 4 - for me this would be the one I'd miss most /me hugs FTV card

Sky One ( Repeats )

MTV - I can remember when they played videos - far more music on FTA

Nickelodeon - let them watch CBeebies / CBBC instead - no ads and no accents are closer to home

CNBC Europe - CNN is FTA
if you want financials Bloomberg is FTA on Hotbird

Discovery Channel - Be honest you've seen half of it already on C4 / BBC2 / Network 2

E4 - It's channel 4 more or less, I can't see anyone who can live without channel 4 missing this.

Setanta Sports - ITV do F1

Paramount Comedy - The funny stuff I've seen before.

FTA also gives you
BBC3 / BBC4 / and a load of news channels

L1011 · 22-10-2005 12:14am

CNBC Europe is free on Astra 1, as is MTV if you can stand watching their shows with subtitles. And it shows music.

djpaul · 22-10-2005 9:20am

Will ITV 4 be on the EPG? Ch 120 maybe? I think it's certain that ITV1 , 2

won't be on the EPG and have to tune in via "Other Channels" for viewers in
the republic.:(

Mossy Monk · 22-10-2005 9:41am

i doubt it seeing as the Champions League matches are moving from ITV2 to ITV4. TV3 might not like it

Mayo Exile · 22-10-2005 10:56am

How accurate is this info about ITV going FTA on Nov 1st? There's not a peep on Digital Spy about it. Or is this forum to be praised for a world exclusive?!! Perhaps somebody who's registered at Digital Spy can post there to get UK reaction?

bigpaddy2004 · 22-10-2005 11:06am

Mayo Exile wrote:

How accurate is this info about ITV going FTA on Nov 1st? There's not a peep on Digital Spy about it.

From the horses mouth...as they say!

Charles Slane · 22-10-2005 11:18am

Mayo Exile wrote:

How accurate is this info about ITV going FTA on Nov 1st? There's not a peep on Digital Spy about it. Or is this forum to be praised for a world exclusive?!! Perhaps somebody who's registered at Digital Spy can post there to get UK reaction?

I've already posted the info, but the UK forums are not as interested as we are because they already have analogue access to ITV1, automatically have both it and ITV2 if they have a Sky subscription, and can get them on a Freesat card very easily if they don't want to subscribe to Sky. On top of all that they can get them on terrestrial digital too. So it's only a really big deal in the UK to non-Skybox satellite enthusiasts.

As well as that, the level of information and debate is far superior here.

Our man in Havana · 22-10-2005 11:24am

Charles Slane wrote:

As well as that, the level of information and debate is far superior here.

Got it in one there Charles! :d

Mayo Exile · 22-10-2005 11:31am

Oops! Sorry about that Charles Slane! You're right, its not a big issue in the UK. Maybe it will only concern those where geography denies reception of a terrestrial digital signal as well as having only an FTA based system as well.

Bigpaddy. If it's from the horses mouth that will do! Roll on Nov 1st!

bk · 22-10-2005 11:31am

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

Seriously It's just sinking in - Channel 4 will be about the only decent channel that NTL basic will offer that you won't be able to get free. Pity NTL don't do an option for Broadband and Phone without the TV.

While it is great news, this won't have much effect on NTL, Chorus will be hurt by it, but not NTL so much.

NTL is very handy to have in a rental property where you can feed it into as many TV's, VCR's, etc. in as many rooms as you like.

Also many people in Dublin (NTL's main area) aren't allowed to put up satellite dishes or aerials.

NTL has a very low churn rate, about 0.7%.

BANZAI_RUNNER · 22-10-2005 11:43am

hi , can someone post the frequencies etc for ITV2 ...Thanks

Charles Slane · 22-10-2005 11:48am

BANZAI_RUNNER wrote:

hi , can someone post the frequencies etc for ITV2 ...Thanks

They're on the end of the "How to tune in extra BBC channels" thread, which is a sticky at the top of the page.

Hopefully it'll soon be worth changing the title of that thread to "How to tune ITV and BBC channels"

Tony · 22-10-2005 1:38pm

bk wrote:

While it is great news, this won't have much effect on NTL, Chorus will be hurt by it, but not NTL so much.

Nonsense, NTL is suffering as it is and this will hasten loss of custom.

Tony · 22-10-2005 1:47pm

Jungle Boy wrote:

Does this mean that on November 1st, each ITV1 region will be allocated a EPG number?
If you use a UK Sky Digibox without a card, #101 is defaulted as BBC1 London & #102 is BBC2 England. So that viewers can view their local BBC services, each BBC1/2 are given a EPG number between 940-962.
On November 1st, a UK Sky Digibox without a card will have ITV1 London on #103. So to watch UTV as FTA, it will need a EPG number.

It will not be in the EPG as mentioned already

Freddie59 · 22-10-2005 1:49pm

Tony wrote:

Nonsense, NTL is suffering as it is and this will hasten loss of custom.

Yeah you're probably right Tony. 370,000 analogue; 120,000 digital, and some 30,000 BB customers. They're really suffering alright!! BBC FTA really seems to have had some impact;) . And the arrival of TV3 (oops sorry ITV) will probably do the same!

I think the point we're all missiing here is that BBC and ITV do not carry the same weight as they did even ten years ago. If this had happened then it probably would have done serious damage to the cablecos. The TV market is evolving every day. The fact the Sky/NTL's combined digital base is ober 400,000 is proof of this.

People (especially the 20/30-somethings) want a lot more choice than their older predecessors. It's a pity that some people are wishing on the demise of NTL/Chorus. Can you only imagine what it would be like if the field was wide open for Sky?

Be careful what you wish for - you might just get it.:rolleyes:

Our man in Havana · 22-10-2005 2:09pm

It would be no harm if the ground opened and swallowed up Chorus.

Freddie59 · 22-10-2005 2:25pm

Bond-007 wrote:

It would be no harm if the ground opened and swallowed up Chorus.

Amazing comment. Let's throw 600 Irish workers on the dole. Sad.:(

L1011 · 22-10-2005 2:38pm

Freddie59 wrote:

Amazing comment. Let's throw 600 Irish workers on the dole. Sad.:(

Come on, if Liberty hadn't bought them they'd be on the dole already. Chorus are an utter basketcase of a company.

ITV FTA from Nov 1st

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