ITV FTA from Nov 1st

watty

I chatter so much no one listens to the gems of knowledge..

Never mind.

parsi

DMC wrote:

Also, I'll add....

Its part of the Irish psyche to get more telly. Ever since our fathers and grandfathers ventured up on chimneys with Band I and III aerials pointing North for the BBC and UTV and Telly Welly Wales in the 1950's, we've always seeked out more telly.

I'm proud to continue with that tradition.

I suppose that explains why the Easter Rising began - to get more channels... ;-)

barrera

Would have no problem in seeing Chorus suffer from this.

A case history of Chorus and Sky.

Moved house earlier this year - wanted to end Chorus (which I only had because of ITV and C4). They charge me my full annual subscription when I phone up to pay the first couple of months of it to see out my time in the house.

They say they'll refund the rest in a few weeks (still no sign). THEN, they ask me for the analogue box which I got Sky Sports through with them up to about 2000 or 2001.

I say I don't have it, and I presumed they took it from me when I disconnected. Either way, I say, as they had no interest in it for at least four years, my duty of care to it is lapsed. They say that will be €200 please! I say see you in small claims court.

Sky - I'm moving house, can I move my Sky package. Certainly sir, that will be €60. When do you want it moved? Sorry for the late notice, but can you do it next week? How does next Saturday suit sir? Great! Sir, just bring your digibox and remote with you when moving.

Following Saturday, job done.

People are only dying to quit the useless thieves at Chorus.

Our man in Havana

barrera wrote:

People are only dying to quit the useless thieves at Chorus.

Hear Hear!

Pal

NTL offered me €190 of free TV if I would reconnect.
6 months movies and sports or somewhat and free points in the bedrooms.

they are getting quite generous now but it won't happen.

As things stand, I can get
free ITV , free BBC, free ch4 and 5 on a FTV card. free RTE/TV3 on an aerial.
so why pay NTL ?

People will wise up soon enough.

OK setanta is a bonus but their games all tend to be on hotbird anyway.

bigpaddy2004

Maybe so, but then you may see the broadcaters wise up to this also if everyone is getting free tv.

byte

Personally, if I lived in an area of Dublin or Galway that had NTL Broadband, I'd choose NTL over Sky, but that's just coz of the broadband package

Pal, that was quite an offer to get from NTL!

Round Cable

I got the same 'voucher' Pal, amazing that during 20 years of custom, you get the best offer when you dump them. :rolleyes:

Sponge Bob

and MMDS areas also got the same voucher but fewer channels.

L1011

barrera wrote:

They say they'll refund the rest in a few weeks (still no sign). THEN, they ask me for the analogue box which I got Sky Sports through with them up to about 2000 or 2001.

I have two of the buggers in my attic and I've no idea where they came from - I didn't get really, really drunk in your house in 2001 by any chance?

barrera

MYOB wrote:

I have two of the buggers in my attic and I've no idea where they came from - I didn't get really, really drunk in your house in 2001 by any chance?

Feck....that party STILL coming back to haunt me

I can take one off your hands...though I would hate to give in to the buggers by playing their game....

Pal

Round Cable wrote:

I got the same 'voucher' Pal, amazing that during 20 years of custom, you get the best offer when you dump them. :rolleyes:

cable TV clearly has a problem with FTA satellite and ITV is a big kick in the nuts.

it will take more than a €190 voucher, MGM Movies and Setanta Sports to ultimately safeguard their franchise.

I am not sorry for any woe that befalls NTL as they threatened to take me to court for €11 once.

bk

Pal wrote:

cable TV clearly has a problem with FTA satellite and ITV is a big kick in the nuts.

It will be a big threat to Sky and to Chorus, it will be less of a threat to NTL.

For FTA you are going to need a dish and an aerial. Most of NTL's customers are in Dublin and many people in Dublin rent or live in apartments where you can't put up Dish or antenae, even many housing estates don't allow it as part of the sales contract. So for these people NTL is the only option. Actually IPTV from companies like Magnet and perhaps even Eircom would be a bigger threat to NTL.

What will be very interesting is that it is likely that BBC and ITV (and maybe even C4) are likely to build their own branded freesat platform along with EPG and PVR's and sales offices etc. like they have done with Freeview. This will put a lot of pressure on Sky.

Cable is in a better position, it can over a range of extra value add services to atttract and retain customers, like BB, phone services, VoD, etc. these can't be offered by satellite, that is why Sky bought Esaynet, to move into the IPTV market.

Mayo Exile

even many housing estates don't allow it as part of the sales contract.

Is this technically correct? I thought you did not need permission (planning or otherwise) to put up a dish on the side or the back of a house. Only if on the front did you need to do so. Getting back to the thread subject, will ITV 2 and ITV 4 be going FTA at the same time as the ITV 1 regions?

L1011

Mayo Exile wrote:

Is this technically correct? I thought you did not need permission (planning or otherwise) to put up a dish on the side or the back of a house. Only if on the front did you need to do so. Getting back to the thread subject, will ITV 2 and ITV 4 be going FTA at the same time as the ITV 1 regions?

Leaseholds on new houses and apartments (as opposed to freeholds) often attempt to ban satellite dishes. This is against EU law, but the challenge would be -expensive-. You need no planning permission for a dish on the side or rear of your house, which is below roof level and under 100CM. I've a feeling you can do what you want with dishes on outbuildings, back garden walls, and ground mounts but I'm not sure - its not even mentioned on oasis.gov.ie... Tony or bigpaddy2004 might know, its their trade.

ITV4 will be launching FTA, and ITV2 will probably go FTA too, absolutely no reason not to

Tony

MYOB wrote:

Leaseholds on new houses and apartments (as opposed to freeholds) often attempt to ban satellite dishes. This is against EU law, but the challenge would be -expensive-. You need no planning permission for a dish on the side or rear of your house, which is below roof level and under 100CM. I've a feeling you can do what you want with dishes on outbuildings, back garden walls, and ground mounts but I'm not sure - its not even mentioned on oasis.gov.ie... Tony or bigpaddy2004 might know, its their trade.

ITV4 will be launching FTA, and ITV2 will probably go FTA too, absolutely no reason not to

AFAIK the eu law relates only to recption of programming from your home country while you are abroad. Not really my area so open to correction on this.

L1011

Tony wrote:

AFAIK the eu law relates only to recption of programming from your home country while you are abroad. Not really my area so open to correction on this.

It also covers your inaliable right to get it in your own country, basically

I like the Spanish response to it - the King said that everyone is allowed whatever satellite systems they want

Sponge Bob

MYOB wrote:

I like the Spanish response to it - the King said that everyone is allowed whatever satellite systems they want

Could we make that man the next Chairperson of Comreg ??

pbirney

djpaul wrote:

BBC FTA, ITV FTA, Who are we going after next lads?? Channel 4, 5!:)

What other channels would you like to see FTA?

FWIW, Channel 5 is currently FTA on non-Sky boxes. Goto: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=316561 for more info.

Chong

Ok lads just to confirm are all itv regions and channels going fta on tuesday the 1st of November.

If one is they will all be.
It's a wait and see.

philologos

sounds good especially when im thinking of ditching my sky subscription

Ulsterman 1690

Leaseholds on new houses and apartments (as opposed to freeholds) often attempt to ban satellite dishes. This is against EU law, but the challenge would be -expensive

How about simply ignoring the nazis put a big f€koff 99cm dish on the gaf and let THEM take you to court...........

L1011

Ulsterman 1690 wrote:

How about simply ignoring the nazis put a big f€koff 99cm dish on the gaf and let THEM take you to court...........

Considering theres bugger all chance they would, particularly if you sent them a nice letter in legalese telling them they'd lose, might be a good idea...

Ah well, I live in a house handed over by the developers long before satellite TV was a concept in Ireland (1985), so no problem to me. And the council haven't noticed the multiple dishes yet either....

watty

I have no dishes on house apart from a Chorus style MMDS dish used for radio experiemnts.

My three dishes are at bottom of garden on a shed roof. I asked the neighbour it she minded first (about 5 years ago).

After five years of no complaint no-one can get rid of them unless there is a Health&Safety issue.

Ralthor

bigpaddy2004 wrote:

That's an awful awful thing to say. You would like the ground to open up and swallow up a large irish company employing irish men and women with husbands and wifes, children, mortgages, etc...

A shrrr why not let ALL our money go cross the water, we'll get some more anyway as public artists AKA (THE DOLE.)

In a free market economy, crap companies go to the wall, and lets be completely honest here. Chorus are crap. As a previous customer, at different times I have had their TV and BB offerings, I can speak to that point without any hesitation. I dont wish them to close, but I sure as the divil wouldn't miss them. To be completely honset, they actually drove me to sky digital.

They had Wireless BB, and the cable infrastructure available long before DSL or any other BB was widely available and they pretty much dumped it.

One other thing does have to be stated here, I am not a business analyst and these views are just my own based on my personal experiences with Chorus.

Mossy Monk

reading a post pver at DS, apparently an advert says ITV4 will be on channel 136, which is of course where Men & Motors is. so it is looking like Men & Motors will be pulled off the EPG for a week

djpaul

Mossy Monk wrote:

reading a post pver at DS, apparently an advert says ITV4 will be on channel 136, which is of course where Men & Motors is. so it is looking like Men & Motors will be pulled off the EPG for a week

Hmm, Interesting... I wonder is it because ITV is going in the clear that they
are having problems securing an EPG Placement?? (Sky) up to their old tricks
Can only offer Ch 136 (M+M) Take it or leave it. Hmm....

freddiew

Has anyone seen or heard any more re ITV going FTA tomorrow

freddiew

Would anyone have ITV's Frequency no etc to try other channels