Eircom ADSL enabled exchanges

Blaster99

The list on the sticky looks a bit old. Is it possible to get an updated list?

cgarvey

Sure, I'd be happy to sticky any list you can find

Blaster99

Where did the current list come from?

parasite

eircom had a list of enabled exchanges in their newspaper ads once and a user here (gombin) posted up enabled exchanges as they went along

lucernarian

Local newspapers can be very good for finding out the latest info on enabled exchanges. My own local paper this week has a list of all the enabled exchanges in Cavan, Monaghan, Meath and Louth.

Sponge Bob

very few new ones enabled , old list still valid

lucernarian

Out of the 39 DSL enabled places in Louth, Meath, Longford, Westmeath, Cavan and Monaghan, 14 are not on the list here.

Sponge Bob

The Comwreck map from NOVEMBER 2004 , is thatnot substantially accurate even now ?

http://www.comwreck.com/blog_31_nov2.html

lucernarian

To be honest, there is actually a fair few more circles on the map eircom have than in the area on the IOFFL map, e.g there are overlapping circles and Longford has 5 places where it had 1. I expect though that the reality is eircom have started expanding mainly in the north-east (thanks to Net1 and digiweb?) as one place I know was upgraded only a couple of weeks after the amber programme was announced.

cgarvey

Blaster, the current list came from a combination of press resleases, Gombin, and user input.

TBC, rather than tell us that the list is inaccurate, would it not be of more benefit to tell us how it is inaccurate, so that we can correct it?

parasite, let us know if you come across one such ad.. so that we can compare.

SB, yeah I would hat thought that not a lot has been done since Nov '04, but if what TBC is telling us is true, then maybe it has change a bit since.

damien

To_be_confirmed wrote:

Out of the 39 DSL enabled places in Louth, Meath, Longford, Westmeath, Cavan and Monaghan, 14 are not on the list here.

Can you list all 39 here To_be_confirmed? Thanks.

lucernarian

I never said it was inaccurate.

Also, I have been looking for the upgrade plan for March 2006 as I remember a user scanning the ad and uploading it here. I guess this is what you meant parasite?

If anyone wants, I can post the names of the new places. As I suggested, the upgrading done may be restricted to the north-east so far.

lucernarian

Sorry Damien, the reply page did not have your post there. My Bad.

Anyway, here they are:
Co. Louth - Carlingford, Omeath, Ravensdale, Dunleer.
Co. Meath - Athboy, Duleek
Co. Longford - Drumlish, Granard, Edgeworthstown, Ballinalee
Co. Westmeath - Moate, Bliary, Rochfortbridge
Co. Cavan - Shercock, Stradone,
Co. Monaghan - Clones

Another Typo - There are another 16 enabled, not 14.

cgarvey

I've added those exchanges (although I can't verify them at the moment), ta.

Moot point, but for something that advertises itself as a complete list to be incomplete, to me, would suggest an inaccuracy.

Fire anymore this way, and I'll gladly update the list for the benefit of all.

Ta
.cg

Blaster99

Can any data that's part of the schools survey be used for this? My thinking: if we already have a bunch of phone numbers tested all over the country (assuming we have pass, enabled but failed, not enabled, per tested line) and we can map those numbers to exchanges, we could derive a fairly completely list.

Dinner

cgarvey wrote:

Fire anymore this way, and I'll gladly update the list for the benefit of all.

The only exchange I can think of thats not on the list is the Kill one in Kildare.

TimTim

Blaster99 wrote:

Can any data that's part of the schools survey be used for this? My thinking: if we already have a bunch of phone numbers tested all over the country (assuming we have pass, enabled but failed, not enabled, per tested line) and we can map those numbers to exchanges, we could derive a fairly completely list.

Where are you going to get that data from?

Only thing I can see on the eircom line checker is pass/fail

cgarvey

Arabel wrote:

The only exchange I can think of thats not on the list is the Kill one in Kildare.

Done, ta.

lucernarian

Here's some more:

Co. Kildare - Monasterevan, Prosperous, Sallins, Donadea, Rathangan.
Co. Wicklow - Baltinglass, Rathdrum, Aughrim, Avoca, Tinahely.
Co. Laois - Kilminchy, Mountrath, Abbeyleix.
Co. Offaly - Banagher.
Co. Kilkenny - Castlecomer, Thomastown.

cgarvey

Cool, ta TBC .. list updated.

.cg

Tenshot

Eircom have a Flash-based interactive map showing enabled exchanges here:

http://mmm.eircom.ie/maps/default.asp

Using this, I wrote a little Perl script to query the same database and produce what should hopefully be a definitive list. Offered here for your delight, along with the current list of enabled exchanges.

Our man in Havana

Aughrim, Avoca, Tinahely.

Are you sure, this places are tiny and in the arse end of nowhere. Are they enabled or due for enabling?

cgarvey

Now see.. that sort of stuff makes the world turn 'round a whole pile better .. Ta Tenshot.. ta muchly.

.cg

Tenshot

Bond-007 wrote:

Are you sure, this places are tiny and in the arse end of nowhere. Are they enabled or due for enabling?

I checked the phone number of the Woodenbridge Hotel in the centre of Avoca and it passes. So, the Avoca exchange at least is definitely DSL-enabled.

My uncle is on the same exchange, but a few miles out; unfortunately, his line is still showing a fail...

Blaster99

Outstanding work!

damien

Kudos guys.

lucernarian

Yeah the eircom app was the place where I got the second group of counties. The new ones are not sorted in alphabetical order so they are usually at the bottom. I checked them all against the list anyway. That zip file would have been handy allright. Thanks for that Tenshot.

Edit: the eircom ad had 3 exchanges in a box under the heading "newly enabled". The bottom two are not yet on the list or eircom.ie for that matter and they are Omeath and Rochfortbridge. On netsource.ie there are no test dates for any lines from omeath (0429375xxx) but Rochfortbridge has passes and fails so this should be added (It's in Co. Westmeath).

Blaster99

I would like to track the Eircom roll-out month by month. If you want to give me the Perl script I can do this, or if you want to do it yourself, you can of course. I think it would be useful to post up the new exchanges as they happen, like Gombin used to do.

lucernarian

One other thing: Could someone find the list of exchanges that are due to be enabled by march 2006? This would also be useful and we could then see what has been done and what is left to do. A search of boards and google revealed nothing so far...

Tenshot

Blaster99 wrote:

I would like to track the Eircom roll-out month by month. If you want to give me the Perl script I can do this, or if you want to do it yourself, you can of course. I think it would be useful to post up the new exchanges as they happen, like Gombin used to do.

I agree. I don't have time to do it regularly, but I did post the Perl script I used in the original message so that some enterprising individual like yourself could take up the gauntlet :-)

oscarBravo

Mervue in Mayo? Doesn't sound right...

Morgoth

To_be_confirmed wrote:

One other thing: Could someone find the list of exchanges that are due to be enabled by march 2006? This would also be useful and we could then see what has been done and what is left to do. A search of boards and google revealed nothing so far...

I found it in the archives and re-uploaded it here.

I typed this list out and then cross-referenced it against the full list in cgarvey's thread. Using both Excel formulae and visual inspection (some spellings differed slightly), I can say with fair certainty that the following 25 exchanges from the March 2006 to-do list of 182 exchanges have been upgraded, assuming eircom's exchange checker is fully up-to-date.

The upgraded exchanges are:

Abbeyleix
Ardrahan
Aughrim
Avoca
Ballinalee
Ballydehob
Ballyglunin
Ballyspillane
Baltinglass
Bliary
Carlingford
Dingle (Daingean on the other list :rolleyes: )
Donadea
Drimoleague
Drumlish
Edgeworthstown
Mountbellew
Riverstown
Rosscarbery
Sixmilebridge
Stradone
Straffan (Straffen on the other list, I assume it's the same place)
Strokestown
Tamney
Tinahely

The list of exchanges on the March 2006 to-do list is:

Abbeydorney
Abbeyleix
Achill Sound
Aclare
Adare
Annagary
Ardara
Ardfert
Ardrahan
Arvagh
Askeaton
Aughrim
Avoca
Ballinagh
Ballinalee
Ballinhassig
Ballinspittle
Ballintra
Ballivor
Ballyboghil
Ballycarney
Ballyconnell
Ballycullane
Ballydehob
Ballyfarnan
Ballygarret
Ballyglunin
Ballyhaunis
Ballyheige
Ballymacelligott
Ballymote
Ballyragget
Ballyspillane
Ballyvary
Baltinglass
Bansha
Belturbet
Bennettsbridge
Berrings
Bliary
Borris
Bridgend
Brittas
Brittas Bay
Broadford
Bruff
Bunclody
Buttevant
Cahirciveen
Callan
Campile
Carlingford
Carnew
Carrick
Carrignavar
Carrofin
Castlebellingham
Castleconnell
Castledermot
Castlefin
Castlelyons
Castleshane
Claregalway
Clarina
Cleariestown
Clogheen
Clontibret
Coachford
Collon
Collooney
Costello
Crookstown
Crossmolina
Curragh Camp
Daingean
Delvin
Donadea
Doon
Drimoleague
Dromahair
Drumlish
Drumshanbo
Duncannon
Dunfanaghy
Dunkineely
Dunleer
Durrus
Easky
Edgeworthstown
Elphin
Falcarragh
Ferbane
Foxford
Foynes
Geashill
Glassan
Glennamaddy
Glenties
Grenagh
Holycross
Inch
Inver
Inveran
Jenkinstown
Johnstown
Kilbeggan
Kilbrittain
Kilcarn
Killala
Killaloe
Killann
Killavullen
Killeagh
Killenaule
Killerisk
Kilmacthomas
Kilmallock
Kilmeaden
Kilminchy
Kingscourt
Kinnegad
Knock
Knockcroghery
Lisdoonvarna
Lismore
Littleton
Manorhamilton
Milford
Millstreet
Mooncoin
Mountbellew
Mountrath
Moville
Moycullen
Mullagh
Newmarket-on-fergus
Newport
Newtowncunningham
Oldcastle
Omeath
Oulart
Oylgate
Pallas Grean
Passage East
Pedlar's Cross
Portlaw
Portumna
Ramelton
Ravensdale
Riverstick
Riverstown
Riverstown
Rochfortbridge
Rooskey
Rosscarbery
Rosslare
Scarriff
Scotstown
Shanagolden
Shinrone
Sixmilebridge
Smithborough
Spiddal
St. Lawrence
Stradbally
Stradone
Straffen
Strandhill
Strandhill
Strokestown
Tallow
Tamney
Tara
Tarbert
Teeranea
Tinahely
Tobercurry
Tomhaggard
Virginia
Watergrasshill
Waterville
Wellington Bridge

cgarvey

oscarBravo wrote:

Mervue in Mayo? Doesn't sound right...

There are a number of exchanges in one county that serve an ajoining county. I assume that's why they appear in multiple counties. I don't know if it's correct, but that is my assumption.

.cg

Morgoth

...while some of them are simply duplicated, e.g. Midleton and Middleton in Cork.

cgarvey

Morgoth wrote:

...while some of them are simply duplicated, e.g. Midleton and Middleton in Cork.

Thanks for the updates on and off thread, most of which I've fixed.

As for the newly upgraded ones.. what do I do?! Add them one by one, uncofirmed by eircom, or just wait for the eircom list to update? The latter is better, but it involves constant feedback (no one person has the time to constantly review this). The former means it's going to be correct up to a point in the past (I don't know how far the map lags behind reality).

.cg

Blaster99

Tenshot wrote:

I agree. I don't have time to do it regularly, but I did post the Perl script I used in the original message so that some enterprising individual like yourself could take up the gauntlet :-)

Thank you, sir. I'm not all that familiar with Perl so if I have any issues, I'll pester you.

There's at least one mistake in your list of not enabled exchanges. Avoca in Co Wicklow is enabled.

Blaster99

cgarvey wrote:

Thanks for the updates on and off thread, most of which I've fixed.

As for the newly upgraded ones.. what do I do?! Add them one by one, uncofirmed by eircom, or just wait for the eircom list to update? The latter is better, but it involves constant feedback (no one person has the time to constantly review this). The former means it's going to be correct up to a point in the past (I don't know how far the map lags behind reality).

.cg

I will constantly track the list using the perl script and I will inform you and everyone else of updates as I find them. If people have faster information on live exchanges, we can surely just add them as we find out? It's not as if Eircom rolls out 50 new exchanges a month or anything. It's going to be a small steady trickle.

Blaster99

In fact, even better, give me access to that exchange list and I'll make sure it's spot on myself. No need to have a whole bunch of people involved in this.

Laguna

AH for ****s sake! It says on that list that Borris is on the to do March 2006 list. Digiweb site told me my line would be suitable in a matter of weeks, yeah, 26 of them by the sound of it.

Morgoth

Laguna: That list was announced around March/April this year. So in approximately half the time until the deadline, they've upgraded less than 1/7th of the exchanges.

I wouldn't bet on the March 2006 deadline for your exchange. Though of course you might get lucky, Digiweb site might be correct...

cgarvey

I''ve modified Tenshots script to spit out vBulletin code, so it's no hassle for me (other than to remove the dupes) to keep it up to date (besides I can't give you access to the thread anyway). The issue is more with the newer exchanges that come on line (TBC has already given us an example). How do we verify new exchanges? He verified 1 of 3 by using a line checker, but how about the other 2!

.cg

Sponge Bob

Morgoth wrote:

I can say with fair certainty that the following 25 exchanges from the March 2006 to-do list of 182 exchanges have been upgraded, assuming eircom's exchange checker is fully up-to-date.

The list of exchanges on the March 2006 to-do list is:
<snip>

The press release at the time said that 20 exchanges were to be announced in addition to the 182 so that would be 25 out of 202 or 12.5% done in the 6 months since the announcement .

The program has basically ground to a halt . Last years smaller enablement program resulted in regular announcements , particularly in Sep-Nov about 5 a week . This years program will require that 170 exchanges are announced in the next 28 week, thats 6 exchanges every week from now on .

Interestingly, Morgoth, DSL sales in Eircom geta list of exchanges to be done in every quarter and only 25 or so are slated for release in the Oct-Dec quarter meaning that 150 will have to be announced in Q1 2006 or else the whole lot will slip out to God knows when .

lucernarian

If all exchange lines are not tested yet and therefore orders cannot be placed on them, e.g. Omeath in the north-east of Louth then obviously its not available at this time.

Sorry if I wasn't clearer Cathal but there are 2 out of 3 on the newly-enabled list which have pass and fail results for them. The Rochfortbridge exchange has numbers tested on 2nd of September and even though it's not available on the map I guess that orders can be placed by phone at least.

The point is that there is going to be a delay of up to 2 weeks or more before they reach eircom.ie and there is nothing that can be done except for:
- Insider information
- Local Newspaper/radio ads
- Someone testing a number by chance sees a result (using netsource)
- Ringing eircom perhaps?

JohnC.

This thread has led me to the triggers on the eircom site. I notice that my area has 12 registered with a 283 target. I really think a large problem is that people really don't know that there is even a trigger level, never mind that they can "vote." The only reason I knew is from this forum. They could do with advertising the fact.

I'd like to know exactly what kind of area is involved with the whole "enabling towns with over 1500 people" thing. According to the census, my local area has over 3000 people, although it is fairly rural. But the actual town and immediate area served by my local exchange I would have thought would have enough. It would be interesting if we could see things broken down by how many are covered by each exchange instead of just trying to figure things out from the census which isn't the same.

zuma

Kahless wrote:

This thread has led me to the triggers on the eircom site. I notice that my area has 12 registered with a 283 target. I really think a large problem is that people really don't know that there is even a trigger level, never mind that they can "vote." The only reason I knew is from this forum. They could do with advertising the fact.

I'd like to know exactly what kind of area is involved with the whole "enabling towns with over 1500 people" thing. According to the census, my local area has over 3000 people, although it is fairly rural. But the actual town and immediate area served by my local exchange I would have thought would have enough. It would be interesting if we could see things broken down by how many are covered by each exchange instead of just trying to figure things out from the census which isn't the same.

Could you post the url to the trigger page???

I know a couple of people who would like to show their interest in getting their exchange enabled.

damien

The DSL trigger scheme is PR bollox. Watch the number grow and then die off again. Do a search on the eircomtribunal or comwreck website. There are towns with 400 households and eircom set a trigger level of 600 account holders.

Laguna

Damien's right, don't bother with the sham that is the trigger scheme.

I'll tell it how it is

Eircom do not give a **** about rural Ireland and the availability of Broadband, they are a private company and will continue to serve (and offer more and more products to) the holy trinity of Dublin, Cork & Galway..

I'd be surprised and delighted if someone could prove me wrong here.

Sponge Bob

triggers are cack, i know of an exchange with 7 registrations and a level of 400 that was enabled anyway.

whether your exchange is enabled depends on town size over 1500 OR if there is fibre nearby like say Ardrahan in Galway.

pop 600 , 2 pubs and a primary school at a crossroads is the size of it and no trigger level set because it was too small.

Yet Ardrahan has DSL already go to http://dsltrigger.eircom.ie/ and enter 091635001 or any number begining 091635 to see what I mean.

its on a main road with fibre so it got done

JohnC.

I'm fairly sure there was fibre laid by the train track which is merely one field away from me. More insult to injury.

Saruman

hmm this is interesting.. i checked imagine and rochfortbridge (my own) is down as enabled. However all of the online checks fail me. I called BT and they say i fail too.. suggested calling eircom and getting them to check it properly... i doubt they will.
Anyone know any more about rochfortbridge?

Duiske

Just to add an exchange. Borris, Co Carlow was enabled about 2 months ago.

Just a point. The population of Borris is roughly 450. Yet my town, 5 miles from borris, has roughly pop 1,300, and is not even on the list for upgrade.
Dodgy Dial-up is our ONLY option here, and don't Eircom just bloody know it !! :mad: