Distortion!!

jimmytango

what is eveyone using?
i currently working with a
zoom - 505
dod - Distortion
dod - Trash master

what do you think of the above products?
if there is a better products out there can you let me know

bombidol

There are many different/better distortion pedals out there but it all depends on what you are playing. the Proco RAT series and EH Big Muff Series spring to mind immediately. But if you are playing Trash Metal they mightent be the perfect choice though you could indeed use them.

david

I used a DS-1 for the last year and a half as my main distortion, but now ive moved on to better things... mmmm amp distortion... ENGL

NotMe

I have have an ME-50 and my brand new Turbo RAT.

bombidol

You enjoying the Turbo RAT?

Mystic Fibrosis

My Roland Cube-60 does all the work with the eq, but I've a Metal Zone as well for my Marshall, squeals like a pig

Karl Hungus

Just whatever onboard distortion is on the amp, I don't use pedals.

fitz

Mesa Boogie V1 Bottle Rocket.
Mmmm...crunchy.

It wasn't me!

I have a Big Muff Pi. Very nice. Could use less fuzz and more hardness to the sound though. If you're looking for soft, bluesy tones it's gorgeous.

jcoote

It wasn't me! wrote:

I have a Big Muff Pi. Very nice. Could use less fuzz and more hardness

LOL!!!

It wasn't me!

I just realised all the innuendo in that post! Nice spotting, ya randy bastard ya!

david

It wasn't me! wrote:

I just realised all the innuendo in that post! Nice spotting, ya randy bastard ya!

Ahahahahaha! That was classic!

Piste

Ahahaha, only you Dave!

Rozie

It wasn't me! wrote:

I have a Big Muff Pi. Very nice. Could use less fuzz and more hardness to the sound though. If you're looking for soft, bluesy tones it's gorgeous.

Err, the Big Muff is a fuzz pedal. It just happens to have a "normal" distorted element to it. If you want to get less fuzz and more hardness, buy an EQ pedal and raise the mids.

I use a Turbo RAT and Nobels ODR-1, as well as the models on my Microcube, and the dirty channel on my Drive amp. I'm getting a Fuzz Factory too, hopefully.

The Turbo RAT is great. It has a unique tone. If you have an EQ, you can use it for Metal, Fuzz, lots of different stuff.

For Trash Metal, I'd recommend the *original* Rat as that's what Metallica used on Kill 'em all. I'd recommend using it with an EQ pedal though, but if you've got a good enough EQ on your amp you should be fine, might want to use it on the distorted channel with a little gain too.

jcoote

no matter what dist u use use an eq pedal..if i had a penny for every time i posted that i'd have a pocket full of obselete money

Karl Hungus

I've been using a Boss MT-2 MetalZone through my Mesa Boogie's clean channel over the last two days, and jesus christ I'm getting some brutal tones.

demanufactured

Using the drive channels on my valvestate vs102r, With the boogie v-twin in front of it for a gain and mid boost for solos

Eoin Madsen

I'd lose the Zoom if at all possible. They're very very noisy and not particularly nice to your tone.

You'll always get a better distortion tone from the amp if it's any good. If you get a bad sound from overdriving the amp then it's a good indication of where your tone is going when you kick in a pedal. You should look at upgrading the amp before you start thinking about pedals, imo.

david

Eoin Madsen wrote:

I'd lose the Zoom if at all possible. They're very very noisy and not particularly nice to your tone.

You'll always get a better distortion tone from the amp if it's any good. If you get a bad sound from overdriving the amp then it's a good indication of where your tone is going when you kick in a pedal. You should look at upgrading the amp before you start thinking about pedals, imo.

Amen.


EUUUURRRGGHH! You're using a metal zone in front of your MESA Karl?!

Giblet

Metal Zones ugggghhh!

Can't stand Big Muff's either, no real tone behind it.

ferdi

i dont, if i want some distortion i just give it loads of gain and treble

Rozie

Eoin Madsen wrote:

I'd lose the Zoom if at all possible. They're very very noisy and not particularly nice to your tone.

You'll always get a better distortion tone from the amp if it's any good. If you get a bad sound from overdriving the amp then it's a good indication of where your tone is going when you kick in a pedal. You should look at upgrading the amp before you start thinking about pedals, imo.

I strongly disagree. There are plenty of tones you get from pedals you'd never get from an amp. Pedals are cheap, and if you get a good one, you'll use it forever, and can carry it anywhere with you.

Has anyone noticed how Irish musicians don't seem to use or have many pedals, at all? I like Amp distortion too, but people really don't use decent effects anymore... it's all the same tones.

Karl Hungus

freakonaleashx wrote:

EUUUURRRGGHH! You're using a metal zone in front of your MESA Karl?!

I know it looks bad on paper, but it's a great pedal that throws the amp into full on Death Metal mode when needs be. Sounds fantastic.

Rozie

Karl Hungus wrote:

I know it looks bad on paper, but it's a great pedal that throws the amp into full on Death Metal mode when needs be. Sounds fantastic.

Have you tried it with the Mesa's drive channel?

And I agree, it's a VERY underrated pedal. But it only really shines when you use an Overdrive with it. May I suggest the TS-7?

Karl Hungus

Rozie wrote:

Have you tried it with the Mesa's drive channel?

And I agree, it's a VERY underrated pedal. But it only really shines when you use an Overdrive with it. May I suggest the TS-7?

I have, but it doesn't sound good at all, I get a lot of whine and feedback. The drive channel is my main "Rock" sound right now, so I don't really use that for anything else. But the Metalzone sounds fine for throwing the amp into sheer flaming Metal mode, so I don't think I want to stick anything else in the signal chain.

Rozie

Seriously though, try an overdrive with it. Actually, have you tried putting the Metal Zone in the effects loop instead of in front of the amp, using some gain on the dirty channel to back it up?

Karl Hungus

No, I've not tried that. Might indeed mess around with those ideas, but right now I've found what works for me.

jcoote

mt-2 rocks imo..put a ge-7 after it and ear hospital here we come

Karl Hungus

Got the EQ on the pedal, the EQ on the amp... How much EQ do you think I need!? :eek:

jcoote

well eq that can adjust specific frequencies is what i'm talkin bout

-=al=-

I dont use distortion pedals, I just use my TSL and usually have a Ge-7 and a marshall ed-1 compressor on nearly all the time for that better tone and to drive the amp more at lower volumes....

heres a clip of my tone...... i made it ages ago, but meh its good enough, it was recorded one of those old pc mics

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/425b1dfe_854/bc/My+Documents/tsl.mp3?bfvtDyCBfJpdXshJ

Rozie

jcoote wrote:

well eq that can adjust specific frequencies is what i'm talkin bout

Yeah, I find a 7 band EQ much more useful than a 3 band, or 4 band on the Metal Zone, but I think it'd only make things more confusing in the Metal Zone's case.

jcoote

doesn't make it confusing i don't think just set the metal zone and dial in your freq on the ge and away u go easy peasy

phantom_lord

Good old Big Muff does the job for me, although i'm gonna get another pedal for a crunch kinda distortion rather than the fuzz.

Johnny Storm

-=al=- wrote:

I dont use distortion pedals, I just use my TSL and usually have a Ge-7 and a marshall ed-1 compressor on nearly all the time for that better tone and to drive the amp more at lower volumes....

heres a clip of my tone...... i made it ages ago, but meh its good enough, it was recorded one of those old pc mics

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/425b1dfe_854/bc/My+Documents/tsl.mp3?bfvtDyCBfJpdXshJ

Link not working ?

jcoote

link worked for me johnny storm

david

Link dead for me... Using Firefox 1.0.4

Ravelleman

freakonaleashx wrote:

Link dead for me... Using Firefox 1.0.4

Me too

Rozie

phantom_lord wrote:

Good old Big Muff does the job for me, although i'm gonna get another pedal for a crunch kinda distortion rather than the fuzz.

Try the original RAT, or maybe a good Overdrive.

Ravelleman

I'm gonna be using a tube screamer as soon as I upgrade my computer and then move on to my rig.

jcoote

tube screamer = a whopper of a pedal

Rozie

They have a TS-7 down in Pro Musica in cork for only 75 euros... you see, it's a TS-7, and a lot of people who don't know better think there's no way it's as good as the original 70s Tube Screamer, but it's actually better than some of the more expensive ones...

Me, I have a modded Nobels Overdrive. ****ing insane now.

Karl Hungus

I'd love to try a tubescreamer, and I was looking at the Mesa Boogie V-1 Bottle Rocket and V-Twin pedals on ebay. Wouldn't mind nabbing one of those babies seeing as they're out of production now.

david

Ravelleman wrote:

I'm gonna be using a tube screamer as soon as I upgrade my computer and then move on to my rig.

Gear First!

Then PC.

Food, clothing, shelter etc are optional extras

jcoote

ha ha well said dave...very tru tho

david

Thats how i live...

I'll get some shock when i move out and finish school though

jcoote

dave its even a ****er when u get a car..i had to get new tires onmine last week and that eat into my ishi strat fund big time

Rozie

Gear doesn't go obselete, therefore it's best to get gear before computer, you'll end up with a slightly better computer then :P

david

Yeah... Im saving for a little van for the gear... A nice Volkswagen methinks.. My sisters boyfriend wrote his off so i might get it off him and fix it up... Mostly body work. The insurance will probably cost me more than the van itself though. What you driving?

jcoote

Rozie wrote:

Gear doesn't go obselete, therefore it's best to get gear before computer, you'll end up with a slightly better computer then :P

thats a really good way of lookin at it

Rozie

Man, I hope i can get Danny to get a job and a van. I'm sure as hell not driving. He can come to Limerick and pick up my U20.