Aldi (Tevion)32" LCD update

lensman

been watching the german forum's for first hand news on the Aldi (Tevion)32" LCD which went on sale yesterday 23rd over there, here is a translation from one of them,..sorta makes my mind up,...I'll be in line Thursday morning
Medion has me now even still another info. pdf gemailt to the new Aldi LCD sees unfortunately so out as if it nevertheless no YUV has separating only over adapters on one or both Scart connections. Stands thus exactly in it (unfortunately no new pictures): 32"stereo LCD tv with videotex • HDTV compatibly - similar over Scart (480i, 480p, 576i, 576p, 720i, 720p, 1080i) over Composite Sync - digital over DVI with/without HDCP (480p 60Hz, 576p 50Hz, 720p 50/60Hz, 1080i 50/60Hz) • Multipicture with 12 pictures: (1 constantly and after 11 each other renewing) • physical dissolution 1366 x 768 • integrated 2-Wege loudspeaker with 2 x 10 Watts of sine • contrast relationship 1000:1 (type) • response time: 8ms (grey tons grey) (type) • PIP (picture in picture) equipment • large sized flat picture LCD TV • brilliant image quality • ideal for the connection of Home Entertainment and Multimedia devices like e.g. Settop box, DVD Player/Recorder, video recorder and play consoles • Dvi i video in with HDCP decoding • possible connection one virtually Surround of system over the Scart connection • 81,3cm screen diagonal • response time: 8ms (grey tons grey) (type) • points of view: 176º H/V (type) • contrast relationship: 1000:1 (type) • brightness: 550cd/m2 (type) • physical dissolution 1366 x 768 • Doppeltuner for picture in picture representation in the TV mode • TV tV-Tuner: VHF/CUhf/hypervolume • TOP/FLOF Teletext with 2100 sides memory and PAGE Catching • multi-PAGE text: Simultaneous representation of several matching Teletextseiten • systems: PAL/SECAM/NTSC

monkeyfudge

Yeah. I planning on going for one of these too.

Just stay away from the Coolock branch, I don't want another buyer in my queue. ha.

lensman

monkeyfudge wrote:

Yeah. I planning on going for one of these too.

Just stay away from the Coolock branch, I don't want another buyer in my queue. ha.

hey it's all over darndale that some guy will be standing outside Aldi with €1100 in his pocket,...I'll just wait till your mugged and I'll take your place in the que,..... joking it's Parnell st or finglas for me better class of mugger there,..

Villain

Looking at this myself might purchase, what would an 32" LCD normally cost??

okidoki987

A Sony 32" LCD is 2,400 Euro!

The one thing I didn't like about the ALDI one was 12 mini screens but only "live", all the rest are static.

lensman

irish1 wrote:

Looking at this myself might purchase, what would an 32" LCD normally cost??

Peats of parnell street
JVC 26" €1499.00 Phillips,
Sony 23" €2399.00.
Powercity
TOSHIBA ...30" LCD € 1499.95
TOSHIBA ...32" LCD HI DEF € 2299.95
BEKO ...30" LCD € 1199.00

Form what I read in other forums it's a Samsung rebadge

Jammer

Samsung 32" LCD HDMI/CI - €1299 in dixons/currys tomorrow, finding store with it in stock after 11am will be the hardest part

http://www.samsung.com/au/products/tv/lcdtv/ls32a33w.asp

Villain

lensman wrote:

Form what I read in other forums it's a Samsung rebadge

Anyone else heard this??

copacetic

Jammer wrote:

Samsung 32" LCD HDMI/CI - €1299 in dixons/currys tomorrow, finding store with it in stock after 11am will be the hardest part

http://www.samsung.com/au/products/tv/lcdtv/ls32a33w.asp

jammer, thansk for the tip, do you mind me asking where you heard this?
could only find reviews for this model in the southern hemisphere has it been available in stores before?

Jammer

Go into PC World (only shop im 100% sure has one) and drool on it. Its at the back of the shop. Dixons/Currys get ALL their stock from the UK, so it could be available to UK.

But yes, currys have been selling it for 1499 with a dvd recorder all week.

lensman

anyone else think that LCD's displays tend to have a blue tint to the picture?
I looked at lotsin Peats yesterday and all looked to have a blue bias

Jammer

lensman wrote:

anyone else think that LCD's displays tend to have a blue tint to the picture?
I looked at lotsin Peats yesterday and all looked to have a blue bias

Were they on a VGA splitter?

When places demo TV/Monitors they split them from 1 PC/Feed and you get either a red/green/blue feed.

lensman

Jammer wrote:

Were they on a VGA splitter?

When places demo TV/Monitors they split them from 1 PC/Feed and you get either a red/green/blue feed.

can't say how they were connected, all the colours were there but this
blue tint donimnated , very cold image lacking in red/yellow all LCD's had this

copacetic

thanks jammer, is this out in blanch that you saw them?

Jammer

yep. If there's none in stock, ask them to order from galway/limerick as they wont sell through theirs as quick, usualy. They wont be getting them back in AFAIK, so they will sell display model. Push for the full 10% off if you take it!

south

irish1 wrote:

Anyone else heard this??

i thought i heard a while ago samsung were starting to make tv's for sony

base2

Just got mine from Aldi this morning. Brought it home and the screen wont display. The tech support number given is out of service. ARRGGHH!

monkeyfudge

base2 wrote:

Just got mine from Aldi this morning. Brought it home and the screen wont display. The tech support number given is out of service. ARRGGHH!

Oh dear.

I got one this morning. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet though. I got over a little after nine and they were just selling the last of them. I thought I'd chance my arm and ask one of the people bringing stock out from the storeroom if they'd be getting any more in and they said I thought they saw another pallet back there. So I ended up being able to get one.

I reckon there were 12 sets in total in that branch. All gone within minutes of opening.

I did take a quick look inside the box, I was very impressed that they give you all the cables you could possibly need, even a DVi cable. Oh and batteries were included.

OhPinchy

dammit thanks to a few too many after the match last night I didn't make it over to Aldi in Tallaght till 9.45 and they were all gone :mad: the lad said they had about 30 in total.

whats the story - were there people queuing up outside and what time would they have been there since?

monkeyfudge

I don't know about Tallaght. But it wasn't too bad in Coolock. 8 people had been queing up before opening and they all got the sets, another guy who was queuing got one of the extra sets with me. The 2 other sets from the last pallet went at the same time too.

I don't have much experience in these things. But I would imagine that at 30 sets to that store you might have got lucky like me going in just after nine.

They issue tickets to the people who have queued up outside the door.

Those bench drills looked like the most popular item though. I seen people walking out with 2 and 3 of them.

dahamsta

Not this time for me unfortunately, but for future reference, do they accept orders for these like they do with computers?

adam

base2

mine is a goner. Hassle now getting it replaced.

monkeyfudge

base2 wrote:

mine is a goner. Hassle now getting it replaced.

Really? That's bad.

Let us know how you get on. I'd like to know what the service is like.

Hopefully mine works. I'll be running home at lunch time to check it out.

Tenshot

I picked one up this morning at Aldi in Parnell Street; arrived about five to nine, and there were around 40 people ahead of me (!) - I assumed they were all there for the LCD, so I was bit dismayed; however, most of them seemed to be picking up cheap power mitre saws!

There were six people in the queue with numbers for an LCD screen, and I got the seventh one (no number) - I asked the sales guy how many they had altogether and he reckoned about 20. He also said they had just placed an order for more. So worth checking for anyone looking for one.

Base2, the card in my box included an Irish freephone number for customer service, 1-800-992-508 and when I tried it just now, it answered. However, if the screen is DOA, Aldi should take it back with no hassle (getting a replacement might be trickier of course.)

Anyway, what's it like? I've spent the last 30 mins playing with it, so here's a mini review.

In short: it's excellent! No dead pixels so far (I thought I saw one, but it turned out to be a speck of dust). I have a 36" top-end Sony already, and the main thing that attracted me to the Tevion was the dual tuners and similar feature set (and the price, obviously).

In fact, most of the features are implemented *better* than on the Sony. The user interface is pretty slick, with sliding menus, fade-ins, etc. There are some nice features I haven't seen before (e.g. three-page teletext - one big page, and two small pages showing the 'next page' links for the yellow and blue buttons respectively).

The "12-screen" display uses both tuners well - you move around the 12 mini screens using the arrow keys, and as you move to each one, it becomes live (with audio); meanwhile, the second tuner continues to update the other 11 screens in the background, at the rate of one screen per second. This is much easier to use than Sony's version, where you had to choose which of the 12 you wanted to watch, and it then displayed mid-size in the centre; moving to a different channel was a lot more effort.

(Someone was disappointed it didn't show all 12 live at once; to do this, you'd need 12 tuners, which would cost a fortune; the way they have done it is really almost as good.)

I connected a PC at 1366 x 768. I was only using Analogue VGA, so I had to do a tiny bit of manual adjustment in the menus to get the picture centred correctly; the display auto-adjusts to whatever resolution you give it, but obviously it works better if you give it a native resolution display. The PC picture was slightly murky (as if it wasn't scaled quite right; I did try several resolutions, and this was the best); going to native DVI should improve it.

Overall picture quality looks pretty good to me; certainly watchable. I haven't fed NTL digital into it yet, but I'd expect it to be very clean, based on the PC input.

It also includes four games, including Tetris! (The others are Snake, Scramble and Outer Space). Pretty low resolution graphics, but since I wasn't expecting them at all, can't really complain :-)

What I liked:
- Nice menus, PiP box zooms in from the corner, and slides around rather than just jumping, when you reposition it
- Includes reasonable number of cables (including both SCART and SCART adapter); strangely, the TV fly lead is a male/female rather than male/male, as if they expect you to be plugging your VCR in rather than your wall socket, but everyone will have the normal lead handy anyway.
- Excellent feature set
- Decent remote control, with well-positioned buttons
- Good teletext (fast too); multi-display is great

Things that could be improved:
- No discrete audio L/R outputs for an external amp (it looks like it will be possible to get "current picture" audio from AV/2, but I haven't confirmed this yet.)
- No side-by-side PiP view (i.e. one picture is always big, the other small; you can't have two similarly sized pictures size-by-side, so the small picture always covers a portion of the big picture)
- So far, I haven't got PiP view to work in PC mode. I think this is because the PC is running at 60 Hz and the TV signal at 50 Hz; I'll probably need to use Powerstrip to get the graphics card down to 50, which I think will fix it.
- It does the annoying thing where pressing '1' or '2' on the remote assumes you are entering a two-digit channel number, so it waits a second to see if you're going to press another key before changing channels; I hate this, but at least it only seems to do it when there is a channel defined in the range 10-19 or 20-29, so in principle if I stick to nine analogue channels, it won't be a hassle.

I originally bought this thinking it would do nicely for the bedroom, but it may now end up supplanting my Sony.

Definitely recommended - at the price, it's a steal!

TheBigLebowski

Apparently they will re-order for you. I was talking to the manager dude in Aldi Newlands cross...

base2

Having mine shipped back to England for a replacement. Ahh the hassle. Really wanted to get it going today.

But one thing, why did they design the thing so ugly?

mad m

Tenshot wrote:

It also includes four games, including Tetris! (The others are Snake, Scramble and Outer Space). Pretty low resolution graphics, but since I wasn't expecting them at all, can't really complain :-)

Games by god,thats mad!

lensman

base2 wrote:

Just got mine from Aldi this morning. Brought it home and the screen wont display. The tech support number given is out of service. ARRGGHH!

are you even getting a blue screen ? or no display at all ?

monkeyfudge

I had a quick check of my one over my lunch break.

It seems to be working fine and has no dead pixels.

I was only able to test it out on my PC. It doesn't seem to catch the aspect ratio of a DVD properly. I'll have to mess around a bit with it this evening.

And it's not that ugly... just imagine it with a 'Sony' badge on there instead of a 'Tevion' one.

Tenshot

One another slight annoyance I missed: there are the usual selection of 4:3, 16:9 panorama, 16:9 zoom, "auto-fit", etc for picture stretching, but there is no 14:9 mode - I used to use this almost all the time for analogue channels, since it doesn't distort 4:3 channels the way the other modes do. However, most stuff I watch now is widescreen anyway, so not a big deal.

Base2, this will sound really obvious (for which I apologise in advance), but: you did check the mains power switch, right? It's not that obvious, since it's on the underside of the connectors panel around the back (just underneath where the kettle lead plugs in).


Mokeyfudge, if you're playing the DVDs via your PC, you may need to tell your player software to play at 1:1 aspect ratio (or maybe NOT at 1:1), since it's probably expecting a differently shaped screen and maybe trying to compensate...

monkeyfudge

Tenshot wrote:

One another slight annoyance I missed: there are the usual selection of 4:3, 16:9 panorama, 16:9 zoom, "auto-fit", etc for picture stretching, but there is no 14:9 mode - I used to use this almost all the time for analogue channels, since it doesn't distort 4:3 channels the way the other modes do. However, most stuff I watch now is widescreen anyway, so not a big deal.

I didn't have much time to look at mine. But the aspect button wasn't immediately apparent to me. Is it a button on the remote, or is it under a menu?

Tenshot wrote:

Mokeyfudge, if you're playing the DVDs via your PC, you may need to tell your player software to play at 1:1 aspect ratio (or maybe NOT at 1:1), since it's probably expecting a differently shaped screen and maybe trying to compensate...

Cheers! I'll give it a go.

MainShane

Is it 100% certain this is ntsc compatible? This would be the clincher for me.

pauld

what is the sound output like? already have a beko 15" , the sounds is akin to an old transistor radio - very "thinny" (my best attempt at describing the sound output)

OhPinchy

MainShane - I'm pretty sure this thread on avforums confirmed that it is NTSC compatible:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213625

when you say 'this would be a clincher for me' it sounds like you have an option to buy one - they were all sold out round my way in tallaght by 9.30am - dont suppose you happen to know of somewhere I can get my hands on one?

MainShane

OhPinchy -- No, I suppose it will be keeping fingers crossed hoping the ALDI near me gets more in.

Does anyone know of a site that actually states the NTSC spec, or can anyone who got their hands on one confirm this from the manual?

Try1ng

Just left Aldi in Clane and they still have them - look very nice

base2

hurahh! Went back to Aldi and they stil had some here in Galway so got a quick replacement. No questions asked, no forms to sign. Happy as can be with my shiny new tv. And best of all the Tevion badge comes off so knowbody will know I'm an Aldi whore.

vicadd

MainShane wrote:

OhPinchy -- No, I suppose it will be keeping fingers crossed hoping the ALDI near me gets more in.

Does anyone know of a site that actually states the NTSC spec, or can anyone who got their hands on one confirm this from the manual?

According to the manual...it's Multi-standard PAL, SECAM & NTSC.


Base2 - how easy does the badge come off and does it leave a mark? I think the badge is a bit big and would look a lot cleaner without it.

aidan01

you could go to lidl
get exactly the same product for €100 less

mad m

aidan01 wrote:

you could go to lidl
get exactly the same product for €100 less

Think Lidi tv is a 30inch.Those extra two inches could make all the difference .

Tenshot

The LIDL TV is 30", and only has a single tuner, not dual. (Still excellent value at €999, mind.)

The Tevion aspect ratio can be changed via the Picture menu, or also directly from the remote using the ARC (Adjust Ratio Control, I presume) button, which cycles between AUTO (based on input picture), 4:3, PANORAMA (non-linear scaling of 4:3 to 16:9 so centre remains undistorted), CINEMA (stretches 2.35:1 back to 16:9 to remove black bars at top & bottom), and WIDE PICTURE (anomorphic wide screen).

The sound quality is actually pretty decent: apparently there are six speakers buried inside the case. It looks like it should be crap, but sounded not bad at all when I watched an episode of the West Wing just now.

Re NTSC, the Features list in the manual on Page 5 says "Mutli-standard PAL, SECAM, and NTSC", and one of the picture menus describes a "Tint" option, with the comment that it only applies to NTSC sources. So, should be covered on that score.

okidoki987

Those extra two inches could make all the difference

You're not my missus by any chance?

OhPinchy

Try1ng wrote:

Just left Aldi in Clane and they still have them - look very nice

Any idea how many they had left in Clane? Might give it a go this afternoon if it sounds like theres a decent chance of getting one. Don't suppose theres any phone number I can ring to check?

dancin

Out of curiosity, can any of you new Tevion owners tell me...

What type of wall mount does it take? Vesa compatible?

Do the speakers detach, so only the screen is wall mounted?

tonychapel

Hi all,
has anybody seen a pink tint on the aldi screen? I bought mine
yesterday and unpacked it last night. Watched GMTV this morning
and the presenters has a pinkish glow, tried all the backlight, brightness,
contract and colour settings but its still there. I know theres a tint
option but that only for NTSC. I wonder if it could be the scart cable
as I've got sky -> video -> lcd scart setup ?

Villain

tonychapel wrote:

Hi all,
has anybody seen a pink tint on the aldi screen? I bought mine
yesterday and unpacked it last night. Watched GMTV this morning
and the presenters has a pinkish glow, tried all the backlight, brightness,
contract and colour settings but its still there. I know theres a tint
option but that only for NTSC. I wonder if it could be the scart cable
as I've got sky -> video -> lcd scart setup ?

Try going directly from the sky with a scart cable if it's still there then eliminate the cable and try again.

Jammer

But you can get this SAMSUNG for €1299 in many stores across the country - http://www.samsung.com/au/products/tv/lcdtv/ls32a33w.asp

copacetic

hi jammer, i went out to pc world and currys in blanch and neither had this model, they had the 26 inch version but even that was 1199. of course nobody there had a clue either about them, was asking one guy did he know the main differences between two of the philips models, he said one of them was an LCD and the other was a 'FLAT TV' and
that the flat TV one was 'nicer'!!
cheers mate!!

Jammer

i'm going up to pick mine up from PC World in a min they were in the paper yesterday..did PC world not have it down the back? The 26" white philips is a horrible TV

base2

Haha. I love asking pcworld/ currys workers basic questions.

One day I was approached 4 times by various fools asking if I needed help. I knew they have a clue so I refused. When I did as for help, as expected your man didnt have a clue. Why bother the customer if you dont even know your own job?

Jammer

theres always one or two...