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Stab City?

  • 26-12-2004 6:29pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭


    Why does every1 seem to ****in' diss Limerick? I was down there like and everyone was ****in grand... no stabbins' ,,,nothin... :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    it sells papers basically,

    btw you might want to take a look at the newbie/FAQ forum with regard to the signiture image regulations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭Droogie


    What? What? What?

    What ****in signature regulations? How do i see these?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,730 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Limerick is a cool city and i see more hassle any time im in Galway or Dublin and more again in any english city


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    Limericks a pretty dead city in my opinion... very bland..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    Shrimp wrote:
    Limericks a pretty dead city in my opinion... very bland..

    would you care to elaborate on that. oh and what does that have to do with the topic of the thread. (24 hours to convince me that your not trolling)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    In the last 2 years it has got loads better Its been ages since ive heard anybody say stab city so your not helping people by making this post...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Shrimp wrote:
    Limericks a pretty dead city in my opinion... very bland..
    Bold statement, but not entirely wrong. Once or twice, ive been waiting for the bus to casteltroy and looked around, see the williamscourt shopping mall (now under renovation) rotting, see what could be described as a large proportion of 'not exactly the classiest of' people walking around, and think that the city has nothing going for it.

    But im from north cork and going to UL, and from living here for almost 3 years, i can easily say it doesnt deserve the horrible reputation its got. Ive seen much more crime and street violence in my home town of mitchelstown than i have in limerick, be it inner city or castletroy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭PlasseyMinstrel


    Bold statement, but not entirely wrong. Once or twice, ive been waiting for the bus to casteltroy and looked around, see the williamscourt shopping mall (now under renovation) rotting, see what could be described as a large proportion of 'not exactly the classiest of' people walking around, and think that the city has nothing going for it.

    But im from north cork and going to UL, and from living here for almost 3 years, i can easily say it doesnt deserve the horrible reputation its got. Ive seen much more crime and street violence in my home town of mitchelstown than i have in limerick, be it inner city or castletroy.
    William street is not exactly the greatest place to talk about what's happening in the city. Those people you describe flock to that street for some reason, I think its because they live in the chipper or the sports shops. Check out Cruise's street and all that end of the city.

    For the record I've been here a year and a half and I haven't been stabbed even once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭spoon


    2 weeks ago my friend found someone on the side of the street stabbed four times with a screw driver.
    about 4 years ago a best friend of mine got stabbed with a stanley knife.
    i cant help but feel unsafe around limerick when im on my own. there is next to no police around the city itself, if you need one in a hurry youll only find them on henry street.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Dave


    I'd have to agree with shrimp here in some regards, Limerick doesn't seem to have the same energy as Galway or Cork or Dublin. That being said, Limerick has come a long way in the last 2/3 years, and I think a concentrated effort is being put on changing Limerick for the better.

    [Been in Limerick 20 odd years, never been stabbed, assaulted etc in anyway]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    http://www.limerickpost.ie/dailynews.elive?id=6058&category=Daily-Thu

    there are great things in the pipeline for Limerick. just you wait and see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    limerick city is on the up and its about time
    look at the size of atlantic homecare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I agree Limerick is on the up. cool.gif

    All we need now is a proper ring road around the city, not a tunnel with a tole booth. rolleyes.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭BobTheBeat


    There is alot happening for Limerick at the moment. Plenty of commercial development taking place and lots of new good quality housing. Now if only we could get rid of the knackers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    pdf document 7 megs

    http://www.limerickcorp.ie/services/planning/devplan2004/DevelopmentPlan2004.pdf

    for anyone interested in reading whats in store for the next couple of years for limerick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 648 ✭✭✭landser


    Limerick has one or two things going for it. THe Castle is impressive, as is the Shannon. Henry street is also a nice place. apart from that however, it's very ugly and very rough. Irish cities are generally piss poor in terms of architecture, thanks to bad planning and in belfasts case, thanks to the luftwaffe.

    most cities are harbingers of crime, but Limerick tends to have more scangers per sq. km. than any place in ireland!

    I know there are nice people there too....

    Limerick is the worst of a bad lot, even there promo ad a few years back had a certyain air of defeat about it.... "Limerick, it's better than most places" I ask ya!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    landser have a look at the pdf file above and let me know what you think.

    all i can say for now is "work in progress"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 648 ✭✭✭landser


    Billy, the future does look better, no doubt about it. but, along with most irish cities, we've a long way to go, and limerick, for whatever reason, has further to go than most. it's a pity, cos the county and some of the towns in the county are some of the best this country has to offer. maybe you could relocate your scangers to madagascar!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭ricey


    ya we could relocate all our scangers or whatever you call em
    and b better then every other county and not the worst...or NOT!!
    i live in limerick all my life and i will live hear for the rest of it no matter
    what people say I LOVE MY COUNTY UP OR DOWN.
    i know hundreds of people who have been stabbed shot sh!T like that
    in jail whatever but any1 who says limerick is worse the dublin - cork - galway
    come on your well off the ball.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    tbh, Billy, its more like a manifesto/statement of promises than a firm "we will do this come hell or high water" document.

    Its like the NDP, lots of promises, **** all product. I hope there is the political will to do it for your city, it needs it. They can draft up a document like that, now is the hard work and see if they can stick within budget etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    with regard to keeping such a plan in budget, DMC, I believe that there are certain moves underway to reform the way projects end up costing three or four times the amount they were originally tendered for.

    Other than that whether or not this plan is a success remains to be seen. if it is not successful, it wouldnt be the first time that limerick city council to screw something up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Orla1


    I just wanna say that while I don't live in the city, I'v lived near enough to it all my life to honnestly say that while there is a good bit of crime in the city it's the same as any other city or large town!! I've seen worse down in Killarney or someplace like that than in Limerick. AND if people seem to be getting attacked or anything it's usually because they go looking for trouble!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭gaf1983


    Orla1 wrote:
    AND if people seem to be getting attacked or anything it's usually because they go looking for trouble!!

    That's not true, there are loads of cases of unprovoked assaults, not just in Limerick obviously but all over the country, the kind of way you can be set upon just by, God forbid, making eye-contact with the wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    The one real problem with Limerick is the media.
    A friend of mine is a Garda in Limerick, but is originaly from Dublin.
    He told me that the Gardai in general, know that Limerick is no worse than any other Irish city, is all doown to the medias Limerick bashing.
    Last year there was an average of a killing a week in Dublin for the first two weeks of the year, while in Limerick there was none!
    I was in Dublin a couple of months ago, last November, or December, and while I was there, just over night I may add, two people were stabbed!
    On the RTE news, i heard that there had been two fatalaties, due to knife attacks!
    Not stabings, knife attacks!
    KNIFE ATTACKS!!!
    It's all down to the media!
    In saying that though, the local media is as bad, front page news a few weeks ago, was about two 14 year olds, robbing a couple of strawberry yops from a shop!
    We've even started to over dramatise ourselves!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    I am surprised at the amount of people who have been / live in limerck and notice the crime and ugliness of the city.
    Its just that usually i'll go onto a chat room or a board and people bash me cause i'm from limerick.
    But when it gets round to it anyone attacking me about the city usually has never been. I just usually say well if you come here then i will listen to your complaints!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    I wouldnt worry too much about people bashing the city, they are not the ones that have only visited the likes of the city centre and the ones who hear nothing but negativity from the city.

    The city was let go to the dogs back in the eighties and now there is work being done to rectify this. alot has been done but theres more to be done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    I'm down in college in Limerick and tbh wont go out in the city.

    Last semester, a good friend of mine was waiting for the bus back to UL in town and got threatned with a 'knife in the head' if he didn't hand over his phone.

    i mean wtf?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Similar thing happened to a friend of mine in Galway recently so it is not a "Limerick" thing, it is sums up the mentality of the typical Irish scumbag!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭oceallachain


    Comparing murder numbers between Dublin and Limerick is ridiculous because of the disproportionate populations. There are/were more murders there in per capita terms than anywhere else for a while. But it was people killing in a circle ("i'll kill u coz u killed him" and on and on and on). I think things have changed a little now though.
    Limerick is a lovely looking city when looking upon it from the Dock Rd. area espeicially.
    There are a few rough spots and maybe no-go areas but where isn't there really.

    Stab City - not one of Ted Crilly's most tasteful jokes (RIP - D. Morgan, I still think you're a legend)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    Limerick is a dynamic city, and should soon be a very lively and entertaining place to live....

    Oceallachain, per person the murder rate in limerick is lower, Dublin has a lot more crime then limerick full stop!
    The only dublin based media with a shred of b*lls to say something are tv3, at least they dont keep egnoring Dublin crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    kaimera wrote:
    I'm down in college in Limerick and tbh wont go out in the city.

    Last semester, a good friend of mine was waiting for the bus back to UL in town and got threatned with a 'knife in the head' if he didn't hand over his phone.

    i mean wtf?

    I know of a guy who was held at gun-point in Sandymount, that's in Dublin 4.
    It's considered to be one of the nicest parts of the country. It's certainly one of the most expensive, you'd have to be a millionare to buy a family home there.

    And a guy on a scooter tried to mug me by Stephen's Green, just so you can know to avoid those places too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    iguana wrote:

    And a guy on a scooter tried to mug me by Stephen's Green, just so you can know to avoid those places too.

    :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    I wasn't born in Limerick but I've been living here for about 4 years, I too was mystified by this 'stab city' and thought was all hype, then one St. Patricks day wandering home to Castletroy drunk as a newt with one of my friends, he was on my phone when 4 scumbags across the road pay us a visit, my friend was the one with the phone, so he gets a good few digs to the head before we manage to get away.

    Two summers ago i was living in a student house in Castletroy (one of the classier areas of limerick), unfortunately a group of scobes moved in to the house a few doors down. One day we were innocuously playing guitar on our roof and said scobes started throwing rocks at us. Later on they also chased one of my friends with a plank of wood screaming " i'm gonna kill you!" (luckily he was a bike so managed to escape), and also their friends tried to break in to our house. In the end they were kicked out, as the police were called on them numerous times, but it made living there hell for a time.

    Other incidents, a female friend of mine got punched in the face at 8.am in the morning as two knackers tried to rob her phone. I knew a guy who had a brick thrown at him randomly by a large group of scobes which resulted in him having his jaw wired and stitches in his skull. Another friend of mine was shot at when he discovered two knackers trying to rob his motorcycle.

    Then there are the random threats on your life, or "do you want to get stabbed?" (limerick hospitality), the scores of scum wandering around harrasing people as they see fit.Oh and a guy was arrested in the middle of the day recently for carrying a submachine gun in public. As you do.

    I've never lived in any other city for long , but limericks reputation is at least partly justified.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Ok lets see so from some experiences I have had in other cities also:

    Friend of mine had her mobile phone robbed out of her hand while waiting at a bus stop in Salthill.

    My car was broken into in Galway city centre once. They smashed the side window.

    Scumbags slashed my tyres down in Cork last year in broad daylight.

    As I already said this is the plight of the Irish scumbag but some people will still insist on painting it as a Limerick only problem. Try living in Cork or Galway for a while and you will experience similar problems.

    Contrary to some people's beliefs' not every mindless crime committed in the country only happens in Limerick.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    Up until this Paddys day i could say i had never withnessed a (real) crime in the city! (not speading etc.)

    A boy ran up to an african guy who was selling stuff on the side of crusis street, and took a rool of wool and ran off! What the ****.

    Even though the knacker probably thought nothing of it and more then likely threw the wool away... this man was obviously trying to survive, rather then to make cash (if u get what i'm saying)

    But i hear of these crimes on this board ... but do not know people who hear this info, and i personnally dont withness these type crimes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet



    But i hear of these crimes on this board ... but do not know people who hear this info, and i personnally dont withness these type crimes!


    it would make you wonder why the ERU are on constant patrol in the city and why the Central Criminal; court had to be relocated there to clear the back log. The media have a lot to answer for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    The Muppet wrote:
    it would make you wonder why the ERU are on constant patrol in the city and why the Central Criminal; court had to be relocated there to clear the back log. The media have a lot to answer for.

    Dude, the ERU, aren't on "constant patrol", here, they were called down for about two weeks over a year ago, and I've only heard of them being back three times since (I could be wrong about that).
    Anyway, guess what, the ERU are stationed up in Dublin constantly!!!
    Secondly, the Central Criminal court has been sitting in Cork for years, it came to Limerick I think three times ever (I could be wrong about this again)!
    Put it to you this way man, If two and a half million euro had been robbed in broad daylight in the midle of Limerick, and then the next day, a dismembered body, wrapped in plastic had been found, dumped in the Shannon, the media would have decended, once again, like vultures, and it would have been a "Limerick," problem! (Damn that was a huge sentance!!!). Instead, because it happened in Dublin, it's a national problem!
    Go figure!!! :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭ricey


    well all i have to say to every1 who is just in limerick
    for a visit or collage or something like that.
    And thinks this is such a bad place compared to home sweet home
    all wraped up infront of the fire next to mam n da.
    FU€K OFF BACK THERE THEN, WE DONT WANT YE!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    what do you make of this then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Just another artist trying to make a name for themselves by generating controversy. Best form of free advertising around. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Dude, the ERU, aren't on "constant patrol", here, they were called down for about two weeks over a year ago, and I've only heard of them being back three times since (I could be wrong about that).
    Anyway, guess what, the ERU are stationed up in Dublin constantly!!!
    Secondly, the Central Criminal court has been sitting in Cork for years, it came to Limerick I think three times ever (I could be wrong about this again)!
    Put it to you this way man, If two and a half million euro had been robbed in broad daylight in the midle of Limerick, and then the next day, a dismembered body, wrapped in plastic had been found, dumped in the Shannon, the media would have decended, once again, like vultures, and it would have been a "Limerick," problem! (Damn that was a huge sentance!!!). Instead, because it happened in Dublin, it's a national problem!
    Go figure!!! :confused:


    You won't get me arguing that Dublins crime problems are misreported and blown out of all porportion by the media. Which ones have the media made up about Limerick?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    the media as a state body are an extension of the irish government and as such are supposed to report all news both good and bad in a fair unbiased manner( the reason we dont have privatisation in the media is that the government are afraid to lose their propaganda tool) saying this however the style and manner of reporting in limerick as well as the huge ammount of media time given to events in limerick, is unjustified and does not match the crimes in question, any ways its a well known fact that any serial killer this country ever produced came from leinster, now wouldnt it be more in the medias place to report events in a certain region of ireland to maybe protect people, not from the "Limerick Bogeyman" but from ignorance,pater nosters, and the faith of our fathers that each of you guys have to say about limerick each time you are afraid to admit that the big bad wolf lives in your town toooooo.!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    I agree with me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    And so those Dave!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    and on a final note i have spent the last three days counting up the number of people all the people here know that have been stabbed in limerick over the last few months, and incredibly unless all of you know the same people thers been more native casualties in the last few months than in a john wayne movie....really.....
    This is all, my friends, sisters, cousins, dog's, mothers, first cousin once removed, kind of stuff!!!......really....
    I mean, really.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    Getting back to the Stab City Art... I must say i am a big fan! I think there is great insperation behind it, and maybe if u stopped to read it u'd agree!
    The whole thing is praising Limerick saying how great it is, but Stab city is shaped out of words and is the first thing u see.

    Really if u think about it what it is saying is that limerick is this great magnificant place that is stuck behind these two words... its what they see when they think of Limerick rather then the great city that it is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    the media as a state body are an extension of the irish government and as such are supposed to report all news both good and bad in a fair unbiased manner( the reason we dont have privatisation in the media is that the government are afraid to lose their propaganda tool)

    We do have private media and if i am not mistaken, they are more sensational than RTE.

    of course it wasnt the modern media who have had a go at limerick.

    wasnt it sean lemeas that once said that when you go to limerick you either run into a novena or a strike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    yes we do have private media, and so does saudi arabia, and great britain, and America unfortunately the enlightened few, are far outweighed by the scared masses, anyway whats wrong with a strike ??? was'nt it benito mussilini, adolf hitler, and margret tatcher who disagreed with striking, good on ya sean le mass. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    im only quoting what he said. absoloutly nothing wrong with a strike if it is for a good enough reason. I think lemeas was trying to say that Limerick people were afraid of work. calling strikes for the most rediculous of reasons.


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