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Fr Ted creator/writer Graham Linehan Arrested over posts on Transgender issues

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,628 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I've thought about the effect on others a lot. I haven't fallen for tabloid scaremongering about the effect on others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,538 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    I didn't see your tweet, but if Jackie is Jackie Green (and Jamie I've no idea) I would say that they should use the bathrooms of their biological sex, or the gender neutral individual ones, but that in practice if they "pass" well enough for people genuinely not to notice (as opposed to being too afraid to complain) then I don't care if they use the other toilets, as long as nobody else cares.

    But if someone complains, then they should potentially be fined for sexual harassment, depending on what they did that called attention to them. Because by their appearance and/or behaviour they are acting inappropriately.

    Post edited by volchitsa at

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Its all based on a social agreement that men (with man bits) use this toilet 🚹️

    And ladies/girls with female bits & bobs use the facilities marked 🚺️

    Men & women have different needs (obviously), men stand up, ladies sit down. Same for boys & girls. We are a binary species, so we come in two varieties, male & female. It's all very basic stuff really, unless of course you are into transgender ideology, in which case anything goes.

    If a man can identify as a woman, and a woman can identify as a man then the social agreement regarding toilets, showers, changing rooms, etc could be broken - if we allowed it to be broken ……

    But we won't.

    The flip side is that most people who identify as trans get on with their daily lives in peace & quiet, they don't cause a cafuffle and they do what they do without advertising it. The problem we have in recent years is the trans activists Demanding this and Demanding that. Demanding that those men who identify as female female MUST be allowed to use the ladies!

    Once we stop that nonsense, the better things will be for all.

    Graham is correct on this issue 👍️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I always got the impression that Graham cared more about people disagreeing with him than the actual issues at hand.

    I wonder did he ever ask himself if it’s been worth it? His marriage, his mental health, his career, all sacrificed for the sake of sticking it to a few Twitter handles.

    Very odd life choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    The transgender man can use the mens toilets (they are zero threat to men as they are women in reality)

    The transgender woman can use the gender neutral toilet that exists in almost all public places.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,628 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,628 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    The bang of 'Women, know your place' off this, that trans people are 'allowed' to exist by you, but only if they're quiet and meek and demure and tug their forelock. We don't want any of those mouthy, loud trans people who actually speak up and speak out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,538 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    I take your point about transidentifying women not being a physical threat to men in the men's loos, but I think there's also a question of a right to privacy (for men and women) so I don't think it's up to me as a woman to say that a TIW is ok to go into a men's loo. If men prefer for there not to be women in there with them, then I think that should be their right too.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



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