Fr Ted creator/writer Graham Linehan Arrested over posts on Transgender issues

aero2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124031464#Comment_124031464

I'd love to thank this post more than once for supporting my opinion that every thread should have at least one song linked, and that there's a song for every occasion 😁!

Cyclingtourist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034053#Comment_124034053

"Strange how you couldn't bring yourself to type his threatening words yet again"

Punch him in the balls, punch him in the balls, punch him in the balls, punch him in the balls, punch him in the balls.......…".

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033364#Comment_124033364

I've genuinely no idea who you're talking about. I see the Dublin Lesbian Line doesn't seem to be in line with your view on what lesbians should be thinking;

https://gcn.ie/trans-inclusive-lesbian-activism-uk-supreme-court-ruling/

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033494#Comment_124033494

Just to clear, Glinners advocacy of violence was not relating to sexual harassment. The presence of a trans person in their preferred bathroom was enough to justify punching them in the balls, according to the great thought leader who's views are being supported round here.

None of us know what we would do in particular situations until it happens. I've been in situations where I've defended people, male and female, when being harassed. Only a fool would assume that they're 'big enough to take on' anyone btw.
I've no idea why you want to keep planting the seed about me calling people bigots. I've can't recall calling anyone a bigot on this thread. From a quick review of my post history here on boards, I've called Enoch Burke, his supporters, George Hook and the big lads who go round threatening library staff bigots. I'll stand over those, but you don't get to pretend that I've called you or anyone on this thread a bigot.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033412#Comment_124033412

I've seen this, usually in smaller restaurants or similar where they don't have room for a traditional gender split, so they have a number of cubicles with no gender split. I mentioned above they had done something similar in a TUD building I visited, but later seemed to have rolled back on this.

From speaking to family who would have been responsible for cleaners of both male and female facilities, I wouldn't assume that women bear the brunt of hygiene issues in shared facilities.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033482#Comment_124033482

When you referred to 'separate gender neutral section of the toilets', it sounded like you were referring to something specifically designated as gender neutral, rather than something designated as disabled.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033697#Comment_124033697

For sure, it's not up to you to make that decision either. You don't get to criminalise people for going to the bathroom.

Are you OK for people to make 'jokes' about punching women btw, or is just 'jokes' about punching trans people that are OK in your book?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033726#Comment_124033726

Thanks for proving where this thinking is going, that women who don't meet conventional standards of appearance and femininity are going to be accused of sexual assault for doing their job or going the bathroom.

You're really NOT protecting women here, just the women who's appearance you approve of.

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033726#Comment_124033726

This is an astonishing post.

You are not only incredibly anti-trans, but you also believe yourself and many other women to be the victim of repeated sexual assaults by a trans person PRACTISING MEDICINE under false pretences.

And you’re just going to shrug it off?

Riiiiiight

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033891#Comment_124033891

Not sure where you got that mantra from, but almost every rights situation requires considerations of balance. Indeed, changing rooms, homeless shelters, rape crisis centres and breast feeding clinics are indeed important, and the people in charge of managing those facilities are the ones in the best position to get the right balance.

Most of these discussions are predicated around the bogeyman situation of the violent thug who puts on a skirt specifically to get into a position where they can assault women. This is broadly a tabloid invention, and the people who run these important facilities are well capable of managing to ensure that these situations don't arise.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033988#Comment_124033988

Your response on the previous question really exposed the lie that this was about safety. You're apparently OK with trans people choosing their preferred bathroom if they meet certain standards of appearance. There's no direct link between appearance and threat or safety. Your own preferred policy is not going to achieve your own objective.

What is is going to do is to punish trans people, particularly those who don't meet conventional standards of appearance, whether that is by choice or because they're early in their transition journey or for whatever reason. It's a strangely cruel policy, designed solely to punish people for being different.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034066#Comment_124034066

Did you lie awake at night thinking of this gotcha? Unfortunately for you, absolutely nothing that I said was equating a bronze statue with a real woman. That's a pure invention on your part.

aero2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124029213#Comment_124029213

Quoting this again as I had omitted my intended response to your question re. braveness. Of course it's good to encourage bravery e.g. when a small child takes their first dive into the deep end, or makes their first pedal strokes without stabilisers, so long as it's in the context of celebrating the child, and not done so the parent can get public kudos a la Annette Bening: (3.17)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q--CGW7VKIU&t=1s

I fully agree with her when she says (1:47) "I learned that what these kids and families need is judicious counselling, sound medical advice, and an atmosphere of calm, love and acceptance."

She also says that this is the civil rights issue of our time, and that trans people are everywhere, which is at odds with the statements that there's only a tiny % of people who need trans rights.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034077#Comment_124034077

Doesn't quite have the same effect when it's just a show of bravado. And just to remind you, you're advocating punching people in the balls simply for being present in their preferred bathroom.

OscarMIlde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033239#Comment_124033239

Wow, what a gotcha. An organisation called QueerAF is unlikely to be representative of Lesbians who don't want to date transwomen. Even just a cursory glance at the photo you linked to shows that most of those standing behind that banner are in fact men.

But not withstanding that there may be some lesbians who ally themselves with transwomen it doesn't take away from the fact that lesbians who don't wish to date transwomen are harassed, boxed, and called bigots/transphobes/fascists.

Any lesbian sub reddits which attempted to be for natal women only were and are shut down. The Tickle vs Giggle saga is precisely because the Giggle app wanted to restrict itself to women only and faced harassment through the courts as transactivists would not let women decide their own dating pool.

The article I linked to goes into detail about the difficulties faced by lesbians in the UK at the hands of transactivists and their allies for the crime of daring to set boundaries as to the biological sex they are prepared to date.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034170#Comment_124034170

Is this happening in Ireland, that "lesbians who don't wish to date transwomen are harassed, boxed, and called bigots/transphobes/fascists"?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034166#Comment_124034166

"Trans people, know your limits".

aero2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034162#Comment_124034162

Andrew, you'd probably be amazed to know how little time I actually spend thinking about you. I browsed the thread today while waiting for my train to depart, as I knew I had forgotten to reply to something (the braveness thing). I had skimmed your multi-link post first time round, spotted the "women=statues" bit, but thought I must be seeing things. No. it was still there second time round.

Here's what you posted:

Even women's statues aren't safe here, with DCC having to take further measures to stop people groping women for a laugh;

https://www.thejournal.ie/flowerbed-installed-to-protect-molly-malone-from-groping-6885870-Nov2025

Am I not supposed to take you at your word? I read the journal article, and it was all about statues. You linked it to talk about violence against women.

aero2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034181#Comment_124034181

Is that a quote from you, or are you trying to attribute it to me? I didn't say it, and I don't agree with the sentiment, in relation to trans people or any other group.

OscarMIlde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034177#Comment_124034177

Why are you shifting the goalposts, that I need to find some Irish sources for harassment?

Can I ask you straight out. Are lesbians entitled to restrict their choice of partner to natal women only. Do you support their right to host dating apps, dating events, social gatherings, or online spaces that are for lesbian women only and restrict transwomen from joining? Or do you think that is bigoted behaviour?

SourSessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034196#Comment_124034196

Also you might not find articles about it, but it is absolutely happening socially (source: being an actual lesbian)

Cyclingtourist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034167#Comment_124034167

'Preferred bathroom' LOL

Mine's actually a shower room.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034184#Comment_124034184

Sure thing, I believe you.

Did you miss the bit that read 'women's statues'?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034194#Comment_124034194

It's exactly what you're saying, that trans people are allowed to exist by you, once they keep their heads down and don't make demands or get mouthy or anything.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034196#Comment_124034196

We are in Ireland, right? Again, I'm amazed at the enthusiasm to drag up strange stories from all around the world in the attempt to create hype and hysteria and fear here in Ireland.

Is there a problem here that we actually need to solve?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034230#Comment_124034230

So now we're lolling about Glinner advocating for punching people in the balls simply for being present in their preferred bathroom. I don't think that punching anyone in the balls is generally a lolling matter, but maybe that's just me. Seems strange that the self-proclaimed safety advocates would be going down this road, but there you go.

OscarMIlde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034255#Comment_124034255

Well a real life Irish lesbian has confirmed on thread that lesbians do face abuse in Ireland for not wanting to date transwomen.

I asked some very simple questions. Could you please answer them:

Are lesbians entitled to restrict their choice of partner to natal women only?

Do you support their right to host dating apps, dating events, social gatherings, or online spaces that are for lesbian women only and restrict transwomen from joining?

Or do you think that is bigoted behaviour?

aero2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034253#Comment_124034253

I want to believe you Andrew but it's a struggle when you don't actually engage with the substance of my posts.

Did you miss the bit where I quoted the bit that read "women's statues"? In that one post you linked to cases of sexual exploitation and blackmail, sexual assault, harassment, a woman set on fire, a serious assault and domestic violence. All serious crimes against women. For some reason in the middle of all that you linked the story about statues. What's the relevance?

Cyclingtourist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034260#Comment_124034260

but maybe that's just me

No maybe. LoL

Women 'prefer' the female toilet, although occasionally I've observed a few nipping into the gents when theirs had a waiting list.