Interesting article on EVs

mikeecho

https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/motoring/drove-350-miles-day-electric-35708630

I'm sure the EV brigade will no doubt be up in arms.

Awaiting, it's a rag, the guy didn't know what he was doing, who drives that far etc etc

User1998

Can’t really argue with that. Diesel clearly wins for that particular journey. But for most people in Ireland, a trip like that might only happen a couple of times a year, if even. So the cost savings for the other 363 days of the year well outweighs the one or two days a diesel would be cheaper to run.

...Ghost...

It was also a 350 mile (560km) round trip in an EV with the aerodynamics of a block of cheese on a mostly motorway journey. He obviously didn't know what he was doing, because despite all his research, he didn't find the fast chargers until the return journey. That estimated range was shocking though. My own EV could do that journey with a 5 minute topup or possibly without any charge, and no need to use the public chargers if I had a socket at destination for a couple of hours. Total cost ~€7

manno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715018#Comment_123715018

You could, it would definately cost a bit more than €7 though!

JVince

Remember it's August.

Any rubbish can make it into a tabloid.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058421777/interesting-article-on-evs

Why did you post the article?

To encourage people to buy 18yr old diesels?

Should I buy one.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058421777/interesting-article-on-evs

That kind of distance will always be more suited to diesels and hybrids. EVs are best suited to cities and the suburbs.

magicbastarder

good idea for a boards poll; 'when was the last time you tried to drive 560km in a day'?

i think the last time i did it was 2017. drove to cork city and back in one day (slightly ironically, to buy a bicycle).

i need to factor this possibility in when buying a car.

edit: dublin to cork city and back is less than 560km.

magicbastarder

next article: 'i tried to rotovate my garden with an inster and it sucked'.

User1998

EV is good for long journeys if you can leave with 100% and just do a quick top up on the return journey. But if your having to charge on both journeys it usually makes more sense to drive a diesel since public fast charging is so expensive. But like I said above, if long journeys are only a occasional thing then its not really an issue

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715572#Comment_123715572

Last Monday 🙂

Flinty997

What I'm reading in that article is that the writer did the journey in an unfamiliar EV on route with no prior experience of the charging infrastructure enroute and had no problems with charging and did the journey with no problems.

And he did from somewhere fairly remote in England, and also used a granny charger for convenience at the destination instead of nearby DC charger.

Didn't seen to have any problems.

Tenzor07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715553#Comment_123715553

Meh… sure most new EV's if you drive them at or below the speedlimit down to say Cork and back from Dublin is achievable with one short 15 min stop at a charger when you stop at a service station for a whizz. No need for Diesels unless you're a Lorry driver.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715662#Comment_123715662

Was it like this...

https://youtube.com/shorts/dnHgjo-9jFA?si=AffdYcBIIJrJrJX3

Gumbo

Anyone else cop the 41 kWh/100 miles figure.
Something wrong here?

Ignore me, that’s only 25 kWh /100km high but normal for that type of car 😂😂

Anyway, I’m off to the ICE forum to give out about my 520d not achieving the claimed MPG.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715705#Comment_123715705

I think its quite clear that it was a lot more expensive and also a lot more inconvenient to drive the EV in comparison to driving their diesel car. No point denying it.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058421777/interesting-article-on-evs

Nope, not that interesting at all. Man does 560km round trip in an unfamiliar car not knowing where charge points are. Other than cost of public charging, it’s a bit of a rinse and repeat to keep the papers selling.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715730#Comment_123715730

Using ABRP and a new Enyaq 85 gives me round trip Dublin to Cork and back with one 19 min stop and 20% left at the end. That's at 100kph.

Using a ID7 and 130kph and 10% left at the end gives me one 22min charging stop.

Which assumes no charging at destination.

I'm sure it's much nicer in a 20yr old diesel though.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715732#Comment_123715732

😀 Only 950km for us last Monday, I had passengers.

I drove that 1.9TDi for 10 years and I never got 1300km. The most I ever got out of it was 1050, could probably have gotten to 1100 km if I'd been braver with the reserve tank but was already 25km past '0' and didn't fancy the walk of shame with the jerrycan. I reckon the only way you'd have gotten 1300km, was motorway driving at 90kmh and over inflated tyres and the panel gaps ducttaped.

Henry Ford III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715795#Comment_123715795

Do you spend your whole life defending the EV agenda?

Flinty997

All those people with petrol cars must be fuming that can't do this.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058421777/interesting-article-on-evs

The obvious one is he states he makes that journey 'every few weeks' but the figures don't add up. Which if that's all you intend to use your car for it would make more sense to take the train than any car

£20 to fully charge a Volvo on 20p/kWh is 100kWh but he also went from 25% to 60% at a cost of £19.62 at a rate of 65p/kWh. 30kWh equates to 35%. He also went from 7% to 84%, adding 77% or 65.8kWh. Which would suggest his battery is around 85kWh... Not the 100kWh he's suggesting in his slow home charger

His beemer clearly doesn't do the stated 55mpg but he forgets this and expects the Volvo to be honest about it's range.

The author is the content editor for lifestyle and money so probably doesn't know much about cars

No such unit as a kw. It's either kW for charging speed or kWh for battery capacity. Lazy journalism but again he's not a motoring journalist

A mere 7% charge left, I hope he never gives up the landline for a mobile phone if that spooks him

The one good point he makes is about the public charging prices, something which isn't much better here but generally I would agree with his view.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715833#Comment_123715833

Do you send your "whole" life attacking them.

What in what you quoted defends any agenda. If any thing what I posted shows they have to stop.

Tenzor07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715833#Comment_123715833

Is this the plan by the WEF to have us all driving electric vehicles that the Government can disable at any time remotely?

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715932#Comment_123715932

Yes that's the plan.... Next conspiracy please.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715949#Comment_123715949

That probably explains why Ireland is so behind with EVs and ahead of everywhere else in diesel sales.…

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715911#Comment_123715911

In fairness he seems to live and work in Cornwall and travel to Bristol a lot.

He has some cracking articles...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/i-make-more-2500-month-35681838

Tenzor07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715950#Comment_123715950

I'm sure Simon Harris is sat in his office now:

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123715971#Comment_123715971

According to his article he makes the journey 'every few weeks for family and footballing reasons'

Looking at his route there's 3 Tesla SUCs at Exeter (1 of which is exclusive) and a few dotted around Bristol and an ionity also on the road so there's plenty of subscription opportunities to bring the price per kWh down for anybody who makes the journey more regularly

To say the figures don't add up purely based on a journey you do every few weeks that you haven't taken the time to plan around is a fallacy

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123716007#Comment_123716007

It's sarcasm.

JeanRasczak

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058421777/interesting-article-on-evs

It's not really interesting.

Go from Hueston to Cork train station and back would be 516km and still less than the 563km the person did

With an average journey in Ireland of maybe 20km for most people it's not really a good representation of how people use a car on a day to day basis.

If you are required to drive over 550km each day then buy a diesel. Nobody gives a ****

If you don't and use a car like the majority of people then potentially electric might be a good idea

Im sure the next article on some of these papers will be someone trying to drive from Glasgow to London and back and electric didn't work for them. No ****