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Exploding Firearm

  • 28-06-2025 08:12AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭


    Anybody any experience of this happening. Lucky he didn't lose his arm.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IdSh8e4lHMY&pp=ygUbVGhpcyBndW4gYmxldyB1cCBpbiBteSBmYWNl



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭keith s


    Never had it happen thankfully.

    I did get a squib in 22lr, but when i didn't see a hit on the paper, something made me check the barrel and i caught it before putting another one down.

    Not too sure what would have happened, but I would have thought another round would either knock the squib out or else id have 2 stuck in the barrel. But the pressure has to go somewhere.

    There's a video of a lad shooting a 50 cal (it was a weird rifle with a screw cap at the back) the cap failed and your man got lumps or metal in the neck, lucky that his father was there and got him to the hospital.

    I caught



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,920 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That's the "stick your thumb in it" video



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,733 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I did have a flash hider fly off the front of an FN FAL at an insane speed once, went straight down the range after the round. Scared th bejaysus out of me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭keith s


    Haha, I never copped that name, but just googled "stick your thumb in it" and sure enough the video is the first result .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,920 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    How he saved himself was his dad saying stick your thumb in the hole. Mad channel.

    They use surplus military rounds and can get a hot round. Think that was it.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 1,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭otmmyboy2


    Underlines the necessity of always wearing eye and ear protection.

    Definitely ammo related, but very unusual since most of these types of accidents are due to handloads being too high pressure, strange that this is factory rimfire.

    I'd say Hornady will be paying out a chunk over this.

    Never had this happen(thankfully), but I have had a silencer (no baffle strike, bad manufacturing caused a crack in the monocore which then fractured completely when firing) launch itself down range in this fashion:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/4t_hwDn1LaM

    Was quite surprised to say the least, but no harm done to the barrel, action, threads, etc. One silencer replaced but that's all.

    Utterly confused at the time though because there was a very weird recoil impulse, and something big flying away from me, but at a glance my silencer was still attached.

    It's entire core, baffles, endcap etc had taken flight though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭slipperyox


    Rimfire brass is always softer than centrefire, as the hammer has to hit it.
    And those wsm always have been pushing it.
    Not surprised



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭J.R.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭john_aero


    When i was looking at buying a .17hmr, there was a number of threads in uk and usa related to squibs do to miss fire of the rouds. One did have a barrell burst after they ditnt take note of the very quiet last round

    Also there used be a shotgun with a blow barrell in local shooting grounds, shooted didnt check barrel before shooting and was lump dirt inside and blew it open



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Stephenc66


    Anyone on here old enough to remember the gun safety stand at the very early Goffs game fairs. I want to say early '80s

    I think the stand was hosted by the Guards. They had a number of guns on display with burst barrels, mostly shotguns that had blocked with mud and one with snow before firing. In some of cases the firearm was used as a an aid to cross a fence and in others people stumbling and sticking the shotgun in the ground.

    There were some other examples of incidents of accidental discharge mostly from poor handling, people not checking the field of fire or people moving in front of the gun. A couple of cases of guns being brought back in to the house loaded etc.

    I don't believe all the examples or incidents explained came from Ireland other than the damaged guns on display.

    I was in my late teens at the time and while gun safety was drilled into me by my father, the display certainly showed why it was important and it's messages have stuck with me to this day.

    I've not been to a game fair in years are safety stands a thing at them?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    My dad once stumbled crossing a stile while holding his .22 and I don't know the detail of how it happened, except that it shouldn't have, the gun went off. the bullet hit a tree a friend of his was leaning against. Missed his friend's knee by about a foot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    I wonder was the rifle the problem. Maybe the barrel. As it was new with only 70 bullets through it. Any suggestions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,275 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    There's a video of a lad shooting a 50 cal (it was a weird rifle with a screw cap at the back) the cap failed and your man got lumps or metal in the neck, lucky that his father was there and got him to the hospital.

    Scott of Kentucky Ballistics shooting a Mark Serbu 50 cal BMG single shot.

    He was shooting a "surplus" Saboted Light Armour Penetrator [SLAP] round that he had bought from God alone knows off the internet. This is now a discontinued round,for a good while in the US armed forces and was supposedly for heavy machine guns not sniper rifles. The Serbu design has a threaded bolt cap and is incredibly strong in that it can take somthing like 12,000 PSI IFIRR,this round produced I think 16,000 PSI and blew the end cap off and into Scott and demolishing the gun.Thus giving birth to the "Put a thumb in it"In fairness to Serbu,he really looked into this problem as this was a first for him on any of his guns,and really is a very approachable and good guy to work with.

    End conclusion was that the round had been hot loaded with pistol powder,which is much faster burning and sold as a phoney SLAP,IOW he loaded a grenade not a round into the rifle.

    Lessons learned boys&girls. Don't buy dodgy exotic ammo off some dude on the internet,[as if we could in the EU],and if Uncle Sam discontinued giving his armed forces something,there is proably a VERY god reason.Also, this is why in Europe we still proof house test guns before we sell them to the public,to find out faults in designs or bad workmanship.

    As for our friendo with his 17 HMR,his explanation in the end is the most likeliest. That gimpy mag making his life miserable,and then single feeding it,then the extractor overiding the round,creating a weak pressure point,then KABOOM!going to be intresting if Ruger will either product recall or issue a product warning.

    Had one pal of mine launch his brand new silencer,on his brand new Savage deer rifle as well as a round at a deer a few years ago.Forgot to thread it on the muzzle.Neither rifle, silencer or deer were harmed in this incident.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,920 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That's the "stick your thumb in it" video



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Many years ago.

    308 in a new rifle with a new barrel. Head spacing was wrong. It was measured, checked then the barrel removed for work (truing) on the receiver, and when the barrel was refitted there was a new headspace but it was not checked, instead going off the previously checked one which was wrong.

    First round, a standard factory one, was loaded and fired. The bolt held but there was a loud bang at my face and I lost vision in my right eye, but only for a moment. It was a week of blurry vision and watery eye, but it came fully right soon after.

    A silly mistake which I attribute to complancy rather than incompetence. I liken it to changing your car wheel and starting the nuts by hand, and you only realise you didn't run them home tight when the wheel falls off or overtakes you.

    Scared the crap out of me and for a very long time I always leaned to the side when firing the first shot from a new gun. I know it doesn't t make sense as it could have happened at any time with any gun, not just the first shot and a new gun, but to me it made sense.

    The case held, just, otherwise it'd have been full case head separation. Also thankful it was a factory round as they're mostly lawyer friendly even though it's still 45,000+ psi right in front of your face.

    Also reminded me of my own complancy of not always wearing eye protection, which I rectified straight after and since.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    HoHow many people wear eye protection when hunting. How much was the headspace out?



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