Showering is wasteful and often unnecessary

fonecrusher1

Sometimes I just run the shower in the main bathroom and the ensuite for no reason. The lovely sound of the water hitting the shower tray is relaxing while I'm having a bath.

taxAHcruel

I can have anything from 1 shower to 4 showers per day depending on what I am doing. I get the feeling this would not make me the OPs favorite person in the world :)

fonecrusher1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123476590#Comment_123476590

In fairness thats a bit much.

taxAHcruel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123476817#Comment_123476817

It may be for some. But its life style related for me.

For example I am a Trainer/teacher/leader in a Jiu Jitsu club. That often requires me on Jiu Jitsu days to go in and shower before training and teaching. No one wants to roll or train with a sweaty partner. But due to the intensity of Jiu Jitsu and the close contact with other human beings - it is also necessary to shower again after the training.

So straight away on Jiu Jitsu days that is 2 extra showers.

I also run every morning rain hail or shine. Depending on the day and my time table this can be anything from 5k to 30k each morning. But usually is about 15k. I then need to sit at a desk directly after this and I do not do so steeped in my own sweat. So there you have another shower every morning minimum.

I do other things in my life that often involve dirt grim blood or more. So some days I have to shower for that too.

So yea every day is a minimum 1 - but depending on what each day holds it can be as many as 4.

fonecrusher1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123476841#Comment_123476841

I teach karate, break dancing for over 70's, clay pottery craft and rockwall climbing too at the same time 8 days a week. I'm very very very busy and active. And I run 40k a day. Backwards. While working remotely.

I don't shower at all. I rinse myself with gravel.

taxAHcruel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477025#Comment_123477025

How very nice for you :)

I did give up on Karate myself. Seemed mostly useless to me. In the school I went to it was taught unfortunately as more a solo dance form - not a self defense technique. Bugger all sparring. You basically went through a few motions with no resistance, unlikely to ever be useful in any kind of self defense scenario. I found Capoeira and more intense forms of Tai Chi to be much more fun and rewarding.

That said though - Jiu Jitsu and other grappling sports tend to be more intimate in terms of prolonged physical contact and a lot sweatier and strenuous in terms of physical effort. One really does not want any uncleanliness in partners and opponents. Nor to be steeped in the resulting sweat afterwards or to be covered in whatever other people might be carrying. So I am all in on showering both before and after a class.

Ash.J.Williams

Showering is **** amazing

Ozmodya

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123453770#Comment_123453770

In the Winter with no exercise, yeah every second day is plenty. If there's a stench off someone after 24 hours when the weather is cold and they've done no exercise, that seems like a deeper health issue.

In this weather though, and doing a lot of outdoor activity, I shower daily. Occasionally a second time.

Rubberchikken

I wish more people would wash. Never mind shower. I'd be even happier if they washed their outer clothes occasionally.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123484986#Comment_123484986

Smelly coats and stale bed smell are awful, some people seem to think their coats are immune to dirt.

CelticRambler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467545#Comment_123467545

Okay, so I was bored too and came back to this thread. Bored enough to respond to this:

so use 10-15l; that's not too dissimilar from a single flush of the loo.

WTF??? A 15 litre single flush? Modern toilets use 3/6l … and by modern, I mean anything less than 20 years old!

magicbastarder

I thought they were about 8 to10l.

CelticRambler

In the UK, the maximum allowed flush was reduced in 2001 to 6l ; before that it was 7.5l. That 6l might have been an EU regulation, as in my part of the world, it's impossible to get a flush mechanism that doesn't have split system, usually 3/6l. My new one is 3/4.5l … but it'll probably rarely get used because I have a dry/compost toilet for daily use.

(So does our local major music and dance festival - 5000 people peeing and pooing per day, and you wouldn't even know the toilets were there if there wasn't a sign and a queue!)

Oh, and the vast majority of these people would be sweating buckets all night long, but are well used to getting themselves fresh and clean in less than 1 litre of water, ready to be locked in someone else's arms again the next day/night. :-)

Boom_Bap

I only purify myself in the waters from lake Minnetonka

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123488393#Comment_123488393

Do those short flush jobs cope with logs?

CelticRambler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123488428#Comment_123488428

If the bowl is designed to be swept by a 4.5l flush, then yes.

Of course it will also depend to a certain extent on the size and consistency of the log. A problem which doesn't arise with dry toilets. No blocked pipes either.

CelticRambler

Slight tangent further to one of the anecdotes posted earlier, I find it highly amusing that someone learning martial arts would be disconcerted by the thought of having to grab a hot and sweaty adversary.

It makes me appreciate all the more how formidable are the dainty damsels with whom I spend my weekends, women (and girls) wouldn't let something as ephemeral as a sweat-soaked shirt stop them from grabbing a man who knows how to dance. :-D

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123488579#Comment_123488579

Well my old school toilet definitely has trouble with a stiff one. Though there is quite a sharp bend on it.

Ozmodya

I don't think the OP said he doesn't wash regularly though, just that he uses a different method to showering.

BrianD3

Of course you don't understand. the whole point of the thread is that a basin wash is often sufficient yet somehow people don't get that - or don't want to get it because there is no social capital to be gained from basin washing and it is deemed by normies to be for poor people and luddites stuck in the 1950s.

If you have knob cheese or other guck, you aren't washing often enough. If you have sweat on your body, how much dilution are you getting with 5 litres of water in a basin. Answer, a lot.

Clothes are different to skin. Clothes wick up sweat and it can't be wiped off. Skin is more akin to leather. if you pissed on your leather shoes, how would you clean the outside? Wipe with a damp cloth or blast them with a pressure washer?

Former Former Former

Ah come on. This is pure contrarianism, hence referring to people with basic levels of hygiene as "normies" as though this is a bad thing.

If we were all washing ourselves with a basin you'd be posting about how gross we all are.

I don't shower for social capital, I do it so that I don't smell. There is absolutely no way the OP doesn't smell, just no one has said it to him.

Ozmodya

I agree about the use of normies (plus what relevance is being Irish?) and it's not a status symbol of course (maybe so if someone gets a really expensive setup but a shower in and of itself is just a practical appliance) however I don't agree that it's impossible to give yourself a good wash without a shower. Of course you can - hot water, soap and a sponge or cloth is all you need.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477025#Comment_123477025

Gravel? Luxury…

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493840#Comment_123493840

All we ever had was polystyrene peanuts .

(am with the OP btw but I hate baths or showers anyway-find them dismal and depressing)

Ozmodya

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493843#Comment_123493843

Explain how I'm wrong if someone gives themselves a few really good scrubs with hot water and soap, and then rinses of with hot water.

Ozmodya

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493918#Comment_123493918

Out of curiosity, what do you find dismal and depressing about an appliance/space for washing oneself? What do you use instead?

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123494384#Comment_123494384

It is the small enclosed space that I hate.(am not claustrophobic)

I just wash the groin area ,the feet ,the face and hands/arms-not my hair.(I do change /wash my clothes)

In over 70 years I have never had a comment about a bad smell (even though I have noticed it myself if I don't change my trousers soon enough.)

Some people actually have a stronger sense of smell than others(there have apparently also been studies that scents may been beneficial fior the brain -memory,at a guess)

This might be interesting (about cats)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg5v11dv29o

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123494539#Comment_123494539

In over 70 years I have never had a comment about a bad smell (even though I have noticed it myself if I don't change my trousers soon enough.)

That's because people are either too polite or don't spend too much time around you due to your smell.

Trust me, if you can notice a bad smell on yourself, other's most definitely do as well.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123494539#Comment_123494539

Yeah but people don't say. I've smelled lots of smelly people in my life and never said it to them.

There's a cheap supermarket near me where lots of people positively stink and I've never said anything. It's not my job.

There are two people in my work who smell and I've never said it to them either. I've heard one of them had a talking to by management, so people definitely talk about them, but not too them.

I quite like one of those lads. He's odd but generally sound. He smells of greasy hair and what I can only describe as sedentary sweat (gamer smell, maybe?). The other fella smells of plain old BO and dirty jocks.

I presume there are lots of reasons someone would smell. They might have been poorly taught about hygiene as a child, might not get the social cues that people are uncomfortable with their smell, or might just not care. Probably loads of reasons.

You'd never know if someone showers too much, but you know when someone doesn't wash enough.

fonecrusher1

I worked with a stinker in an office environment a few years ago. Sound as a pound but there was a bit of a pong off him alright. Quite noticeable at times. Didn't bother me much but it did bother someone else i'd say because he was pulled on it. There was a 'chat' with management I believe.

I guess it was more than one person who complained. Talk about an awkward conversation …

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