Showering is wasteful and often unnecessary

magicbastarder

caveat; i'm bored.

our 10 year old triton t90 (a common shower type) pumps out about 8l/min when running at the cold end of the dial, and less than 3l/min running hot (this is based on a real world test i just did). let's say 5l/min at a happy medium.

i shower for maybe two or three minutes typically, so use 10-15l; that's not too dissimilar from a single flush of the loo.

and it's about one tenth of the per capita daily use of water in ireland; so won't be the main reason the reservoirs run dry.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467545#Comment_123467545

The shortage of water is due to a serial lack of investment in infrastructure. There's a road nearby that springs a leak every other week. Instead of replacing the mains pipe it gets repaired and another leak appears.

A lot of it must be there since the British installed it.

Raichų

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467507#Comment_123467507

The problem the OP is looking to address isn't anything to do with showers: it's down to people not being held accountable for their own actions.

Ah give your head a shake mate he’s spent his entire contribution to the thread accusing anyone who showers regular as having expensive bathrooms and jet fuel powered showers!

He’s literally insulting anyone and everyone that washes differently to him while simultaneously demanding his is the only way and we’re wasteful cretins.

The only thing the OP is trying to do is make himself feel more important than the rest of us while masquerading as the only sensible one.

Smell of ya

Orban6

i shower once a year…….regardless whether I need to or not 😏

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467507#Comment_123467507

I would have no problem paying for water, plenty of people in the country have to pay for water. Only some entitled pricks in cities cried about paying!

fonecrusher1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467659#Comment_123467659

Stop boasting. OP will get cross.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123449100#Comment_123449100

Same as that, about 10 showers a week. A few of them are just a rinse. Shower in the morning and if I go to the gym tonight then a quick rinse, probably without shower gel, and a shower in the morning again.

The rinse showers are probably 2mins total water running time.

Really not sure why anyone gets upset about others showering too often. It's not like they smell of too many showers. There's a bloke in my work and he was sitting a bank of desks behind me and could smell him before I saw him. I'll take the risk of taking too many showers

Sleepy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467686#Comment_123467686

Don't try to turn this into an urban v rural thing. Any analysis of the data shows that the cities generate the vast majority of the tax take and that rural dwellers are net beneficiaries. Even accounting for the lower level of public services rural dwellers recieve, it costs the state more to provide that lower level of services to a rural dweller than it costs to provide the higher service levels to urbanites.

Certainly, there are solid arguments for subsidising those involved in, and supporting, farming activities on the grounds of food security etc. but it pisses me off listening to those who built a McMansion on a plot of Grandad's farm, work from home or do long commutes to jobs in urban areas and then whine about the lack of services they get or the amount being spent on the LUAS or the like. Entitled doesn't cover it 🙄

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467976#Comment_123467976

Dont know why you had that rant. I live in Dublin, I would have no problem paying for my water, and I didn't at the time they were suggested. As I said many people in the country pay for their water. The only entitled people I saw were those out harassing workers and giving abuse to Gardai

kneemos

I think they made the mistake of not having water charges means tested. It gave the left and their followers a drum to beat.

All of those meters lying idle in the ground.

Sleepy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468009#Comment_123468009

The allowances suggested would have been perfectly adequate for anyone not using more than necessary. A loud minority were caved into by a gutless government imo. Anyone who found themselves in financial hardship from water bills would have been no different from someone who found themselves in similar circumstances from excessive spending in any other area of their life. A government funded program to eliminate leaks on the final stretch of pipes from the meter to the home could have alleviated any conerns imo.

@suvigirl apologies. I mistook you for one of those rural dwellers who side-tracked every debate on the water meters on boards to whinge about having to pay for the group water schemes that supply their 3,000sqm McMansion built off a boreen in the back of beyonds (usually with the trades being paid in cash to avoid tax).

magicbastarder

there was a simple step (simple in concept, at least) that the government could have taken which would have gone a long way regarding public worries on water charges.

i am more than happy to pay for water; i have no ideological objection to that. my concern was public ownership of irish water, and a lot of people were worried that the meters were the first step in privatisation; given the context, this was a justified concern as europe were pulling the strings and asking the government why they were not outsourcing public bodies.

a referendum on the topic of enshrining public ownership of irish water would have alleviated a lot of those fears.

walshb

OP, it’s Ireland 2025. Are you living off grid in a forest or something? I shower once a day. Takes 5 mins tops. Some folks just like feeling fresh. I think you’re really over-analysing the function of a shower

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468048#Comment_123468048

I think there was a charge regardless of use. The meters were for overuse.

If I remember correctly those that paid made a profit as the Government gave a kind of bonus with the refunds.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123466613#Comment_123466613

Generally speaking your electric shower wouldn’t be dependent on water pressure from Irish water. Be fed from your attic tank. Once the tank has a trickle of water feeding it you could probably have a nice shower every couple of hours if you wanted to.