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The game we all love - what would you change?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Review Referees after matches and get them to explain their decisions.

    The Ref for the Arsenal United game was brutal yesterday. Gave a lot Arsenals way for 105 minutes then gave United some soft free outs in the 2nd half of extra time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭youtheman


    I'd try stamp out 'cheating', specifically feigning injury to get an opponent sent off. I can (kinda) accept 'going to ground' to win a penalty. But keeling over like you were taken out by a sniper is hard to accept (on any contact with an opponent).

    I also think that the corner kick is no longer 'fit for purpose'. It's the only time you have 10 players in contact with 10 opponents, in a single motion, with no offside, and several infringements taking place simultaneously. How is the referee supposed to decide which infringement it to be adjudicated on!.

    Referee scrutiny is here to stay. And with technology there is going to be even more scrutiny. But it's a very 'one sided' debate. Part of the same conversation needs to be the aforementioned cheating by the players.

    If you are injured you go off the field of play for treatment and the game carries on. If you can't then you are taken off and substituted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Corners one is a simple solution, if the opposition puts the ball behind the goal, instead of a corner, have a kick 45 metres out from the goal for the taker to punt it into the box. No player is allowed into the box until the ball arrives in the box to prevent crowding the keeper, otherwise it's a square ball and a free out

    I call it the "45"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭jacool


    I thought you wanted to prevent players protecting the crown jewels when they are not in danger, as the ball is going to hit them in the head or the arse, as they are facing away from the action!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,203 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    When the ball is out of play, just stop the clock, its a simple thing to do that would really improve the game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,203 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I remember Coutinho scored a couple and everyone seemed to be putting a man on the ground then,.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    It would make it go on forever.

    There's been games in the PL where ball was in play for less than 45mins



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,150 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Remember when they done this in the world cup and everyone bitched about 110min matches? It cut out all time wasting by the knockouts!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,426 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Yeah it's one part of that World Cup I really enjoyed, it felt weird the first couple days but once everyone got used to how it was gonna work it really benefitted the games, at least from an entertainment point of view.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Nalz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭jacool


    Forest fans held onto a ball and threw it onto the pitch last night when Liverpool were attacking up the right wing late on. Fining would be the only way to resolve this. The ball was actually there for a while before it got booted off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,245 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    only a small one but i would make the person closest to the ball take the throw in. hate waiting for a full back to stroll over.

    funnily enough, when a team needs to get a goal the closet player always takes the throw in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Wouldn't that mean you can punt the ball into the corner when you win it back in your own half as a tactic forcing the keeper to take the throw as he's closest?

    Would be like a 50-22 in rugby union



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,245 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    should have clarified, i would exempt the keeper from that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,426 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    In general there are a few rules that could be updated with "not including the goalkeeper."

    The offside rule actually states that the forward can't be beyond "the second last opponent," because 99% of the time the last opponent is the goalkeeper.

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    The problem here is that sometimes the goalkeeper isn't in his goal and this is where it gets messy. By the current rules the image below is offside, but I don't think that was necessarily what the rulemakers had in mind when making the rule.

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    Imo they could just change the rule from "beyond the second last opponent" to "beyond the last outfield opponent."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Eldudeson


    Just have the refs enforce the rules that are there. Every year there's a focus on one rule that gives a couple of controversies and then just disappears. This year it's a yellow for delaying a free kick. Rice gets a 2nd yellow for a farce decision that is in this category along with a few other examples I'm not bothered to look up. Haven't seen it in a couple of months.

    Weak refereeing is 90% of what's wrong with football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Seems clunky. I'd imagine it could slow things down, e.g. arguments over which player was actually closer, time spent when player deemed to be slightly further away by the ref goes to take it is whistled and he has to pass it to the correct player, throw in taken a few yards further up the pitch than where it went out (which always happens) so the player closest to where the ball went out might not have been the closest to where it's retaken - will refs see that as an issue

    And then, what is the punishment if a throw in gets taken by the wrong player? I assume this is treated like a foul throw and it goes to the opposition? Then do we care who takes it from the opposition side or is it the opposition player closest to the foul throw?

    I can see this resulting in a lot of time added for nonsense carry on from players either intentionally or inadvertently



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    No rebounds on penalties

    Stop booking players for taking off shirts or celebrating with the fans.

    Start booking players for deliberately preventing goal kicks/throw outs and free kicks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    No opposition outfield players allowed to stand between the goal and the ball for a free kick. Stop all that faffing around when there's a 25 yard free kick. Also makes it more penalising to commit a foul just outside the box - not fair that a couple of inches makes the difference between a very high percentage goal chance and a very low one.

    Free kick for a cynical foul may be brought forward between 0 and 20 yards (but not into the opposition box).

    Kick-ins instead of throw-ins.

    Corners taken from where the ball crossed the line - or taken from where the box meets the end line if opposition team hits it over their own crossbar etc.

    People look at you like you're insane when you suggest that offside should be abolished. But I'd be in favour of seriously looking into this. It would speed up the game. It would eliminate very contentious decision making. It would free up the assistant referees to help with the refereeing. It would spread out the play. I'd also like to see some trial games broadcast where there is no offside. Offside was eliminated in other sports without harming the game.

    Remove technology altogether. I'm a fundamentalist when it comes to this. The game should be the same game at all levels. Decisions should be made in real time by a human involved in the game. Goals should be celebrated in the moment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I agree with all that except I'd keep the yellow for celebrating with the fans. You don't want a 10 year old trampled by some pissed up fat bastard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭jacool


    There's very few pissed up fat bastards playing the game now since Gazza.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭dave_o_brien


    I'd like to see points deductions to teams in situations where players have been retro-actively found guilty of simulation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Clattenburgs recent idea about penalising throw in delays and gaining ground made sense to me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Max 20 seconds to take a corner. The amount of time wasted with the trotting over to corners and delay tactics is fūcking frūstrating



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Last one from me, but the taking a yellow by pulling someone back or tackling from behind when a clear counter attack is on really grinds my gears.

    Taking a jersey off, kicking the ball away a few yards to waste 5 seconds or so, or a simple trip in an insignificant part of pitch is penalized the same.

    A sin bin, automatic 2 match ban, or even something crazy.... like a free kick where only the players who were on the ball or in front of the ball during the attack can be in front of the ball for the free kick. Others must remain 10 yards behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    Salary cap. Abolish agent fees. Restructure the transfer fees to level the playing field.

    I know these are not what you have in mind, but these are the things that are ruining football. Some handful of clubs able to buy and pay what they want ruins the trough for the rest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    In this day and age, regardless of league, there should be a way for fans to buy a subscription to watch all games their team plays in. Regardless of the competition. In 4k with choice of commentary feed.

    Whatever your argument about multiple tv providers having rights, its completely ludicrous for games (say the Premier League) to be played every week with no live broadcast and no legal way to watch them. These are games that are broadcast all around the world but in the Ireland there's no legal way to watch them. It's even worse in the UK where you can't watch half your local team's games sometimes because it's either not broadcast live or there's a blackout

    IIt's an archaic system



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    bin VAR



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