F1 2024 - Round 23 - Qatar - Lusail

ShamoBuc

Perez gets into Q3 - a nice change for him.

ctrl-alt-delete

This track is getting quicker.

Where have Redbull found this pace from?

Itssoeasy

Perez gets into the top 10.

Andrew76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122906501#Comment_122906501

Not going to get my hopes up just yet, surely Max can’t get pole?

LIGHTNING

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122906501#Comment_122906501

They dropped some of the sandbags out 🤣

PsychoPete

Verstappens car is looking very good so far

niallm77

Mclaren got Mastercard a sponsor now?

Itssoeasy

max gets pole position. Where did that come from ?

Andrew76

Yes!!!! Get in you beauty! Wow. Mega lap from the champ.

Longing

Class pole Max

Itssoeasy

Will that be investigated ?

edit: it’s been noted anyway.

ctrl-alt-delete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122906508#Comment_122906508

He would have gotten pole in the McClaren or the Ferrari too, even Hamilton's Merc.

Might be punished though.

Andrew76

Hopefully he doesn’t lose the pole, Russell wasn’t on a fast lap might be his saving grace.
No doubt Sky will spend 20 minutes analysing it…

Barrett

Mercedes car seems to have improved considerably in the last few weeks. I wonder what have they done to that car.

dulpit

Not a great qualifying session, but mad to see the improvement of the red bulls.

Qatar track is a bore. And there's so few fans there too...

ShamoBuc

Max gets a 1 place grid penalty.

Andrew76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907326#Comment_122907326

What a load of bollix. Russell wasn’t even on a push lap. Well hopefully the Red Bull is competitive on race pace and we get a decent fight at the front.

mun1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907326#Comment_122907326

max wont give a rats ass, he still claims the pole

niallm77

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907035#Comment_122907035

Cooler temps with races at night seem to suit them

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907326#Comment_122907326

The feeling that Max is unfairly penalised for things will continue.

Longing

Wow This sport is gone to the dogs or should I say the stewards. What a load of crap. Corrupt f1.

Russell is such a cry baby, I really hate that guy. A penalty on the out lap. A new rule made up. Its sincredible. But hey Sainz can cross pit lane entry, nothing to see here. Also Sainz didn't get a penalty for unsafe release today either.

There are bigger issues going on here behind closed doors. Dare I say, there are people high up in this sport who have a personal vendetta against Max.

Just read this from the report. Let this sink in.

it was obvious that the driver of Car 63 had clear visibility of Car 1 and that neither car was on a push lap."

LIGHTNING

Whats the bet Max doesnt bother braking for Turn 1 and just wipes out George.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907673#Comment_122907673

The penalty for Verstappen was ridiculous, but there was nothing wrong with what Sainz did in the previous race.

It's not against the rules to cross that line if you're not pitting, Sky just pulled that out of their arse. On some tracks such as Austria the racing line even goes across the pit entrance line. The rule is pretty clear - you can't cross that line from the outside in to pit, but it's perfectly fine to cross it from the inside out and continue on your way. Which is why Sainz did it without a second thought and there was no issue.

Longing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907749#Comment_122907749

Ok was not aware going across pit lane entry was legal. But what about this has a comparison.

Look at Brazil, where Mercedes got away unscathed after altering their tyre pressures, which normally results in DQ. Or Norris, who started the race when the lights weren't green. Nothing! Which would hinder the driver's progress.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907791#Comment_122907791

Oh yeah without question both of those should have been properly penalised. The stewarding has been terrible in general without question. There are specific stewards, Johnny Herbert who has been involved in a host of terrible calls this year and Gary Connelly who is at this race and is no doubt behind the Verstappen penalty as he has a long well documented track record of holding a grudge against Max and taking decisions against him.

There have been a lot of sackings at the FIA recently and MBS looks like he's in the process of breaking up the old boys club that was running things, which might end up with a more professional organisation in the medium term but probably more turmoil in the short term. The new race steward at least is definitely leagues ahead of Wittich who was going to cause a tragedy sooner or later with his repeated delays to safety calls to wait for competitive situations played out.

PsychoPete

At this stage the stewards are just making sh!t up as they go. Nobody got a penalty in sprint quali for doing the same thing driving unnecessarily slowly

niallm77

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907749#Comment_122907749

Except the race directors notes apparently said you cannot cross the line once your inside it IIRC.

Kinda like Hamiltons practice starts in Sochi in 2020, that penalty came from his disobeying the RDs notes

flazio

Just to remind some of the amateur referees here, the race director has no say in handing out penalties. It is at the discretion of the stewards. The race director is NOT a steward. The race director can ask stewards to review (incident noted) the stewards can agree (under investigation) or disagree (no further investigation)

Longing

On data released. Max had to brake because Alonso was slowing down in front. Meanwhile, George was barrelling down the straight as if on a hot lap. Then Russell slowed down after overtaking Max.

Im surprised RB have not appealed. Or will the use this can of worms in the future.

dulpit

Was he done for being too slow across the lap? They have target lap times to ensure they're not too slow. If that's the issue then not as much of a concern.

If he's been done for impeding when the car he impeded wasn't on a flyer than that's suss