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Irish Rail New Proposed Timetable - August 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I haven't had one train arrive on time from Clongriffin to the city since this timetable came into place. The trains are arriving at the old time, so 5 minutes late.

    The problem always seems to be the commuter. The Dart in Malahide obviously needs to let the commuter over take it and it always passes through Clongriffin before the Dart shows up. Shambolic.

    OK the flip side, the train from the city to the Northside are working great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Internally I have heard that many drivers are extremely unhappy with the new timetable as is; set and driver changes being fitted in at rush hour along with some tweaks foisted onto the fleet department who knew well that they just won't work out. Expect some minor changes in the next 2 weeks to try and oil things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Another late from from Clongriffin tonight. It was due at 6:31, didn't arrive until 6:41 or so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,950 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Every single train has been late for me too, at one or both ends (some did leave the starting point on time).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    It's funny, leaving the city had been spot on for me which is great. I'm just having awful hassle getting to the city.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Same issue here, I usually get the 17:27 from Connolly to Drogheda during the week and it hasn't been on time once, usually between 5 and 10 minutes late. Then when it gets to Malahide, it gets stuck outside for about 5 minutes while waiting for a platform.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Another evening and another Dart from Clongriffin to the City Center delayed nearly 10 minutes by a late commuter. It wouldn't be so bad if the commuter picked passengers up, but this one doesn't stop at Clongriffin.

    Is the delay just train departing late or is it a bigger issue?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Irish rail posted a comment on the article on new timetable

    Timetable update: 6th September

    Dear Customers, As with all major timetable changes, we closely monitor its implementation to identify any issues which arise which may impact service performance.  We have experienced some issues impacting punctuality performance in the first two weeks of the implementation of the new timetable, notably arising from congestion in the Connolly Station area affecting Commuter routes feeding into Connolly.  We are analysing these issues to improve punctuality for our customers, examining any minor modifications or platform changes which will assist in addressing these issues.  Should this require any minor modifications to service times to resolve, we will liaise with the NTA to seek approval for these and advise customers in advance of any changes.  We apologise to customers for any inconvenience they have experienced, and assure customers we are working to resolve these initial issues.

     



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    10 minutes late leaving the city tonight. Absolute **** show.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Last Friday a commuter train heavily delayed the DART from Malahide such that then, in their infinite stupidity,they can sped that DART through all the stations. Since the next DART was also late people from Howth Junction onwards were waiting half an hour between DARTs instead of ten minutes. Did they inform us about this or apologize? You know the answer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Got caught in this gap, I thought there was a 18:47 train. I just missed the 18:35 (even though it was 6 minutes late), and then had to wait for the 19:17. Previously it would have been possible to get the 19:00 from Docklands instead, but they moved the Dockland services 5 minutes back as well.

    And the 19:17 was just one train, so it was super busy.

    One thing I hadn't noticed before is that all the "quick" services from Clonsilla seem to be gone, earlier there were a few Docklands trains and at least one Connolly train (around 4:40pm) that only stopped at Broombridge.. now they stop at all stations. Except the 8:03am from Connolly to Maynooth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Didn't IE do a massive city centre resignaling project a few years back to improve the throughput of the loop line bridge? Why is Connolly struggling to cope. The problem shouldn't be facilitating the train movements at this stage, rather it should be how can we get trains to transit the city centre faster given that all services crawl between GCD and Clontarf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,665 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    this is why I'm very dubious when people say on here that the new trains and signalling will fix the reliability problems. It'll still be Irish Rail running the system and as a company they are incompetent at an organisational level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭TranslatorPS


    Reading all of your comments the main feeling that I'm getting is that IE schedulers aren't paying enough attention to potential routing conflicts at stations…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Sounds like they need another Conolly-Maynooth service leaving at about 18:52 to plug this gap.

    Can't go any earlier to avoid conflicts with a Newbridge-bound train; can't go any later so as to stay ahead of the 18:55 ex-Docklands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭thomasj


    duplicate post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭thomasj


    i thought they did it before the phoenix park tunnel services came in ? Wasn't it needed to get paths for these services into GCD?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,149 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    PPT services started in 2016. Resignalling was 2020. Resignalling just allows them to stack more trains closer together, coming into Connolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Connolly does need some track work to improve however the core issue with this timetable is the adjustments they made to DARTs are causing a lot of problems.

    The whole signalling re design for more trains is a bit like this timetable. Looks great on paper but not workable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,149 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    8.24 Malahide to Greystones was 12 minutes late into Clontarf Road this morning. Train rammed, and passengers left behind on the platform. Prıck had a bike on the train too.
    Gets into Connolly, and while a good few got off, the platform was packed with people waiting to get on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,149 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Changes to Maynooth services coming in next Monday. Guaranteed to make things worse. 😂

    Few changes to Dundalk/Drogheda services coming in too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,950 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Every single Maynooth service I've taken has been late at the city end (and some at the far end too) since the change. Today was particularly bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Wow. when will we see the changes to Maynooth line services online?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I struggle to get off the train at Connolly sometimes because people are the platform literally won't step back. Once or twice I've had to push through and actually nearly fell off the platform.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭Daith


    In the summer I used to be able to get the 40e to Broombridge and the M3 to Docklands train around 7:15 or something. Was this changed with the revisions?

    The 40E now arrives about two minutes after the Docklands train departs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The train was advanced by 8 mins in the recent timetable change.

    Also bus journey running times (in general) have been lengthened since the schools returned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Sounds like they should have left the running times as they were and not reduced them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,950 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Looks that way. Does show systemic problems if they have degraded to needing such flabby timetables.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,113 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    They admitted from early on that things aren’t working as well as they planned - I would prefer that they were honest about that and let people know that they would try to address the problems.

    I think that I would prefer that approach, rather than taking the approach that the NTA have taken each time when it came to the bus running time issues with each BusConnects phase, which was to say nothing at all and leave people in the dark for weeks on end.

    Obviously we would all prefer that they had got it right in the first place, but better to be honest about it than taking a vow of silence.



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