Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Oscar_Madison

How many more of these decisions will be made I wonder over the coming months ?

The company is US based so can presumably, “easily” take back manufacturing - 300 jobs gone, just like that- and many more I’m sure local jobs impacted. I don’t blame the company per se- if I was head, dealing with all the Trump sh1te, and threat of tarrifs I may well do the same .

Hopefully these folk will get work elsewhere but must be very stressful

https://www.thejournal.ie/carelon-limerick-6717260-May2025/

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495515#Comment_123495515

That's got nothing to do with Tariffs.

They are a healthcare tech company so no "manufacturing" jobs.. they are just a company in trouble shutting down an office, they aren't moving the jobs, they are cutting them completely.

Crap news for those involved obviously, but nothing whatsoever to do with Trump's nonsense.

thereiver

Texas is passing a bill to make all cannabis products illegal .1000s of people will lose their jobs selling hemp and other cannabis products

Cannabis can have positive health effects when used in moderation

The housing market is struggling in Florida due the high cost .of insurance insurance go,s p as more areas are hit by hurricanes and flooding due to climate change There's extra charges to maintain buildings and apartments .

Insurance and other charges can be as high as paying a small mortgage.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495515#Comment_123495515

€1.2m pissed away on a company that can wind up operations inside 6 months. What kind of crazy investment strategy has the IDA that allows a company receive money that has given zero commitment to any type of wind down period should they decide to leave. Not all these people are going to walk in to other work so you will have potential issues with loans and mortgages off the back of it. Money like that should be conditional. Minimum 24 months notice or else its refundable pro rata.

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495515#Comment_123495515

The Carelon plant in Limerick is not a manufacturing plant, so this is not a case of anyone "taking back manufacturing". Carelon's products ("information technology application support, data analytics, and business process services") are not goods, and are unaffected by the Trump tariffs. Also, this decision was flagged some weeks ago, well before Stupid Thursday.

Not to say that Trump's policies and actions definitely have nothin to do with this, but on the information we have at present it's not easy to draw a line connecting Trump's policies and this decision.

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495322#Comment_123495322

Biden was president at a time when there was worldwide inflation mainly due to the Russian invasion but Americans believed it was due to Bidens handling of the US economy. All the economic indicators like growth and employment were excellent but Americans believed Trump when he said it was a disaster.

aloyisious

Trump launched a sales effort of Trump Media shares yesterday on the market in an effort to raise/buy US$2.5 Billion worth of bitcoin. Is he running short of ready cash in accounts with people he relied upon for large donations retreating from him?

I don't know if he settled the legal row he had with the two other co-founders of the Trump Media Parent Co last year over his attempt to "short" them of their share of the expected profit, claiming they did not own any share of that Co, which might give him sole ownership of the Co.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495447#Comment_123495447

I'll always remember watching them broadcast a Bernie speech while having a small box which contained an empty podium for an upcoming Trump speech. They cut away to the podium periodically, despite the fact that nothing was happening.

I think it was John Oliver who carried out a computation of the amount it would have cost trump to pay for the screentime and it was in the millions...

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495607#Comment_123495607

He always has numerous grifts going on. His plan is to walk away from this as wealthy as possible. He also spent his day pardoning a number of people involved in fraud cases. One couple tried to defraud some small financial institutions of €30 million, their daughter spoke at a Trump rally, the other guy who stole €10 million from company pay cheques His mother paid €1m to go to the Trump dinner and he was pardoned just yesterday. They might even get jobs in the administration if they keep licking his hole.

thatsdaft

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495653#Comment_123495653

The same US media are now avoiding Trumps senile cognitive decline which is visibly getting worse (which in itself is an achievement)

Man camera woman tv

And don’t get me started on BBC americast coverage, those guys can’t contain their excitement about Trump episode after episode

Patrick2010

What a corrupt country the US has become….

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/28/trump-pardon-power

Donald Trump pardoned the hosts of a reality TV show convicted of defrauding banks to fund their luxurious lifestyle in the same week that he pardoned a sheriff who accepted bribes from businessman in order to make them into law enforcement officers.

Trump started his second term with a massive act of clemency: granting pardons and commutations for all those convicted for their roles in the January 6 riot at the US Capitol, including some who had engaged in violence that day.

Since then, he has pardoned a host of people convicted of fraud or public corruption, as well as a group of anti-abortion protesters who blocked access to a clinic.

Those pardoned include the former governor of Illinois who now calls himself a “Trump-ocrat”, the founder of the Silk Road darknet online market, two police officers convicted for their roles in the death and coverup of a young woman, a former state senator in Tennessee, the founder of an electric vehicle company, a nursing home executive and a woman who collected money for a police memorial who used the money for herself instead.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495475#Comment_123495475

What on earth are you on about. I was asked a specific question and responded to it. I have also made reference to several different European countries.

The median US worker is better off than everyone except a Luxembourger.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495658#Comment_123495658

The same US media are now avoiding Trumps senile cognitive decline which is visibly getting worse (which in itself is an achievement)

Don't worry. Jake Tapper will write a book on it after Trump's term is over. You'll understand… he's a bit busy, shamelessly promoting a book which sh1ts all over an 82 year old who has cancer, and his scandal free and extremely successful tenure.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495673#Comment_123495673

FFS he might appoint Blagojevich as an ambassador. I guess he has prior art there with Charles Kushner the ambassador to France, though at least Kushner served his prison sentence.

10000maniacs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495566#Comment_123495566

There has got to be a clause in those IDA grants that says if the company pulls the plug within a certain amount of time, they forfeit the money.

If there is not this clause, it is negligent.

Leroy42

So, after all the turmoil, after all the bombast from Trump and the claims of success from his cabinet and his supporters, it turns out that the issue that was brought up right at the start, that POTUS did not have the power to set tariffs, turns out to be completely true.

Obviously, they knew this, or should have known, and tried to bluster and bully their way through.

Que massive lawsuits for anyone that either had to pay the illegal tariffs or lost business because they didn't order stock due to the tariffs.

What a massive screw up by Trump. What a joke of an administration. What a complete and utter failure. We all thought his failure to have any sort of plan to remove and replace Obamacare was pretty bad. But this is much worse.

What will his next call with China or Ursula be like? "Hi Donny, heard you have no power over any of this, so let's call it a day and you go back to playing golf. Just enjoy being a lame duck for the next 3 years and tell Congress we can talk after 2028".

10000maniacs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495655#Comment_123495655

The only thing he can't grift on is extending his mortal coil. He is 79 and seems to be getting more feeble minded and insane with every interview he gives. He is going downhill. I bet this is the thing that annoys him the most.

All that money and he is like everybody else, only as good as his weakest link.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495878#Comment_123495878

Yes, but as much as he dispises his own kids he still wants to feather their nests. As much as he wants to live forever, he also wants the name to live on. The Brand can't die with him.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495907#Comment_123495907

True but like Tywin Lannister, he did nothing whatsoever to prepare them for it. The MAGA grift, like anything else, can't last forever and Tywin produced a single worth successor. Don Jr, Eric and Ivanka are just people of privilege who have had everything handed to them. Like Donald, they've never worked for anything.

The name will live on because, odd as it sounds, there are Trumps who have legitimate achieved success in their fields.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495922#Comment_123495922

If there is a familial successor to Trump, it's probably Barron, but he needs a few more years at least.

Maybe it doesn't matter because the founder of a cult of personality can remain leader of it even in death. The next person at the podium isn't a leader so much as they are a caretaker - a steward of the movement, and they use their proximity to the founder as a way to claim legitimacy, ie the Kims in North Korea.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495962#Comment_123495962

I think the most likely scenario is the MAGA snakes tearing each other apart after Trump dies. They're happy to play second fiddle to the man himself but once he's gone, they'll go for each other's throats.

Damien360

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495566#Comment_123495566

I am certain the IDA has a minimum requirement for remaining in Ireland on their funding to companies. Otherwise, they look for it back. It’s a grant agreement on their website but I can’t find the terms.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495985#Comment_123495985

I somewhat imagine a combination of this and the North Korea scenario that Briany describes. MAGA will fracture, but my guess is that it’ll likely fracture into a set of groups who will compete into being the «true» follow-up to Donnie’s nonsense. This is where a total lack of political policy beyond following Donnie’s whims will come back to bite them.

Each MAGA faction is going to have a hard time building a distinct message to rally around, because there’s really isn’t any message now beyond placating Donnie and in return getting permission to be as anti-social as they want. That fracturing is going to make the GOPs job all that much harder after Donnie is gone. As abysmal as the Dems have been, they can at very least change leaders and keep going. I’m not sure if that is true anymore for the GOP.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495962#Comment_123495962

I highly doubt it..

Melania and he are far more likely to take the cash and run as soon as they can.

I just don't see her hanging around post Donald , if for no other reasons than that Jr, Eric and Ivanka will do everything they can to cut her out.

She'll take her money and Barron will go with her.

yagan

I can't see the reputational damage being undone. Looking in from the outside no one will be confident that another anti business cult won't emerge after Trump.

Even if MAGA splits and flounders there's still the risk that a US state or two have a Waco style showdown with the federal government.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496115#Comment_123496115

Melania is going to be an interesting one. I also wonder how her simps will feel when she does eventually jump ship. (They really do seem to get upset when any of us speak poorly of her. She’s «stunning» don’t you know?).

I still believe that she would have bailed had Donnie lost in 2024. Now she’s there until at least 2028 or whenever Donnie expires…whichever is sooner. If Donnie pulls a «Russian» and runs from office with a large amount of assets, then she might hang on in the hope of inherenting after he dies.

However, if the Financial Wolves that were circling him in 2024 make a comeback and gut the Trump Org for everything it’s worth, then I expect she’ll bail during his lifetime with as much as she can take with her.

ancapailldorcha

Looks like the tariffs have been blocked:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2dekzjg6gzt

Every time that place looks like it can't get any stupider, they surprise me.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496136#Comment_123496136

Exactly.. After his first term , people could say " They made a mistake, they tried something new and it was a disaster, they won't do that again"

But now , no one can ever really trust that they won't elect another nutter again in the future.

That damage, that loss of trust will be impossible to restore.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496115#Comment_123496115

According to Michael Wolff's book, she was in tears when he won in 2016. I think she's just waiting out the clock so she and her son can be secure.

Leroy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496156#Comment_123496156

You can be sure that Trump and the Whitehouse will simply ignore this. Well, first off, the Press Sec will come out today, to slam the woke justice system, trying to undertake a coup against the most respected and biggest vote winner ever.

She will claim, and this will be repeated by the cabinet, that POTUS must have full power to negotiat,e and it is because Congress is so poor, and weak, and the democrats and evil socialists, that the country is dead and that only a single decision maker - some might say dictator - could lead the contry through this emercengy.

And anyway, the US has been making 200 quadrillion dollars a day from tariffs, paid for by the other countries, so really this is an attack by the woke liberal left by weaponising the courts system, to stop everyday Americans from getting jobs, from lowering inflation, from having free IVF and proper schools.