Donald Trump the Megathread part II

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617135#Comment_123617135

That's the beauty part though. He just has to sign whatever they put under his nose. That's it.

everlast75

I didn't know how to link thread posts properly, so forgive the link, but I was trying to find this clip and use it the other day, but have just come across it again and it's a doozy

https://www.threads.com/@theskinny81/post/DL3zn-siP8C?xmt=AQF0HBpCiZi7sn4x7XF797Xq0VZ2yOpKmACKnvR0YgZMFQ

More sketchy Epstein behaviour from Trump

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617148#Comment_123617148

I think it is fairly clear there are competing factions all attempting to do that though. It is why his policies veer from incoherency to outright contradictory.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617251#Comment_123617251

It was like that in his first term as well. He does that with his businesses. Heck, he encourages it.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617135#Comment_123617135

That's one of the things that Trump will do regardless as he's his own man, which, alongside making most other people seem to be responsible adults and much more preferable to be president, means he will screw up (to an uncertain degree) the best laid plans of those behind him and the 2025 Plan.

His reactions (that being what they are) to what others do and say put even a few of his own team in a good light, even if it's only because they are keeping their mouths zippered (like Rubio) to protect their own individual GOP career prospects. Rubio's foreign travel efforts are doing him no harm in Trumps eyes while distancing him from Washington's gaffes as Trump is given first place in broadcasting them as wins for him.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617251#Comment_123617251

There's also the risk of them making him look/feel stupid.

Take Hegseth (I think it was actually one of the Heritage foundation goons that works for him) stopping Arms shipments to Ukraine using the excuse of "stockpile levels" without telling Trump.

He then looks like a tool because he wasn't aware and he was out there saying that they were going to increase shipments.

He does NOT like that and will now probably increase shipments even more to look "powerful" now.

So while he'll generally just sign what he's given , if he thinks you are stealing his thunder or making him look bad he will react very very badly.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617437#Comment_123617437

First off, I don't have much reason to trust the Daily Mail to publish an unbiased story about Trump, without a tendency to have it show him in a good light or to provide a distraction from the troubles bothering him so I don't know why the items in the following D/Mail story remained unpublished until the present.

There's a 4 hours-old story, by Elena Salvoni, in the Daily Mail that Trump told a 2024 private meeting of donors that during his first term he told Putin that if Russia (Putin) invaded Ukraine, he (Trump) would bomb the (expletive) out of Moscow an audio tape appears to reveal. According to the D/Mail, a recording of a gathering during a 2024 fundraiser seemingly shows the now-President stating that Russia would have never invaded Ukraine in 2022 had he been in office.

Apparently in reference to his first term, Trump said: 'With Putin I said, "If you go into Ukraine, I’m going to bomb the [expletive] out of Moscow. I'm telling you I have no choice."' He then claimed Putin responded: '"I don't believe you, no way"... and I said "way".'

Later in the conversation, Trump can also be heard claiming that he issued a similar threat to China 's President Xi Jinping if he chose to invade Taiwan. 'I said the same thing to them, I said "if you go into Taiwan I'm going to bomb the [expletive] out of Beijing ". 'He thought I was crazy. He said "Beijing! You can't even bomb [inaudible]." I said, I have no choice. He believed me 10 per cent... and we never had a problem.'

According to the D/Mail story, the remarks have been uncovered in a series of audio tapes made while Trump was on the campaign trail at fundraisers in New York and Florida. The recordings were obtained by journalists Josh Dawsey, Tyler Pager and Isaac Arnsdorf, who shared audio of the conversation with CNN. Details of some of the exchanges have been published in their new book called 2024. The White House was contacted for comment regarding the published audio and claims. The D/Mail story has no mention of a response from the White House in its story.

President Trump last night ripped into Putin, accusing him of 'bull[expletive]' in negotiations to end war with Ukraine. 'We get a lot of bull[expletive] thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,' Trump told reporters during his Cabinet meeting. Following on from the Trump statement last night about Putin, Russia continued its night-time blitz on Ukraine's cities unabated.

aloyisious

Does anyone have a stand-alone source as to how many U.S Pharma Co's have subsidiary production plants in Oz? Apparently Oz is one of the countries which Trump has threatened with a 200% tariff on Pharma exports into the U.S.

poop emoji

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123618033#Comment_123618033

It came from a CNN investigation

Daily Mail are just regurgitating the story

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123613696#Comment_123613696

And meanwhile, members of the US Armed forces are goosestepping though parks in LA with zero protestors in front of them. Sickening stuff.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123618033#Comment_123618033

"With Putin I said, "If you go into Ukraine, I’m going to bomb the [expletive] out of Moscow. I'm telling you I have no choice."' He then claimed Putin responded: '"I don't believe you, no way"... and I said "way".'"

I, for one, did not have Trump threatening World War 3 via a Wayne's World phrase on my 2025 Bingo card…

Dr Turk Turkelton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123618033#Comment_123618033

I've been given exclusive pics from this conversation:

For Forks Sake

Very presidential, and not at all racist 🙄

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123618328#Comment_123618328

I have little reason to doubt that Trump told those stories to his supporters in closed door fundraisers.

However I do not believe that what he said was true or that anything remotely like what he describes happened anywhere outside of his imagination.

Stanley 1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123615991#Comment_123615991

Reckon she has guys on the side walls of the press briefing room who would jump all over the journo with a mere nod of her head, under the term, security, journo would be gone like a flash and never allowed back in.

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123618229#Comment_123618229

Did you not see the parade a few weeks ago? We can barely march, let alone goose step.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123618565#Comment_123618565

REPORTER: Yesterday you said you were not sure who ordered the munitions ordered to Ukraine. Have you figured it out?

TRUMP: I haven't though about it

REPORTER: What does it say that such a decision could be made without you knowing?

TRUMP: I would know. If a decision was made I will know.

Where's Jake Tapper when you he's needed?

everlast75

Bribery and extortion in full view. Jfc...

Thinking on this further, this is the use of tariffs as a punishment. It has nothing to do with the best economic policy for America.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123619083#Comment_123619083

Not happy being King of America, he wants to be king of the world. The sooner other nations decide to ignore him and America the better it will be for everyone. Hes only laying a template for a more dangerous idiot to follow.

looksee

Trump's German ancestry is showing in his random capitalization. That letter is outrageous in intent and threats, as well as being an offence against the American language.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123619436#Comment_123619436

Also; is this his new thing? Sending out photos of typed letters on White House letterhead?

Tweeting on his Tesco-Value Twitter doesn't seem to get him any respect, and talking to the press never seems to go well for him. Perhaps this is an attempt by him to appear all grown-up and capable…without having to blunder his way though normal human interactions. Alas, the stupidity in the text almost always shines through.

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123619443#Comment_123619443

German capitalises nouns. Trump capitalises randomly — nothing to do with his German ancestry.

So far as I can find out, Trump speaks no language other than English, and he doesn't speak that very well. It's very unlikely that his errors in written and spoken English are the result of the influence of any other language.

brickster69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123619083#Comment_123619083

The US has a trade surplus with Brazil.

SuperBowserWorld

One advantage of Donald is that he reminds us of how bad things were and could get again if we continue down the hallowed path of greed.

https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2025/0710/1522777-trump-egg-prices/

FishOnABike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123619083#Comment_123619083

... all the subtlety of a semi literate mobster shakedown.

It will take a complete reform of the political system in the USA for the country to undo the damage being done to international relations. Just a change of personnel would not be enough. Significant structural changes are needed.

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123619530#Comment_123619530

Thank you for that erudition. I…oh never mind!

Economics101

Threatening 50% tariffs on Brazilian copper is nuts. US importers will go elsewhare, importing more from places like Chile, and Brazil will export copper to countries which previously imported from Chile. Basically tariffing imports from one country of a globally traded standard commodity like copper just divcerts trade and makes it less efficient, largely by adding to logistics costs.

I wonder will the US try to tariff Brazilian high-tech products, like the excellent aircraft made by Embraer? That might give an advantage to ricals in the small airliner market, most notable Bombadrier (Canada). 😁

Tell me how

This period in American's period of history will get a lot of negative attention in future years. For various reasons. This is another one of those reasons that will leave a particular stain.

The inimitable and highly principled Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories has been directly target by the Trump Administration in having sanctions imposed on her. Her crimes? calling out the US, its leaders and multinational corporations for their role on the suffering inflicted on the Palestinians.

She is a remarkable and principled woman and the world would be in a much better place if more of her kind were in leadership roles in the governments around the world.

She is someone who is deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize but instead, is being threatened and tried to be silenced by the US. I imagine this action won't cost her a wink of sleep but will instead reinforce her certainty of her position.

Imagine how these headlines are going to be viewed in years to come when Israels actions have been accepted as being Genocidal? A forever stain on the US and just one more on this administration.

newport2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123616518#Comment_123616518

Trump doesn't give a toss whether any manufacturing ever moves back to the US or not, the only thing he cares about is what is currently being perceived by his supporters. He's playing the tough guy, putting it up to those foreigners ripping off the U.S of A. They laud him for it and that's his only objective.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123619928#Comment_123619928

100%

He thinks this plays well with his base and makes him look strong and dominant.

He couldn't care less otherwise.

An analysis I read the other day said that if the tariffs he's been talking about were actually implemented it would be an additional $1600/year cost for every single tax payer in the US.