Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

It really needs to happen....

Again, I'm not in x, but this info is from George Conway, so probably accurate. Can others confirm if it's not?

What feels authentic about this is that not only does it ring true with Musks actions and agenda, MechaHitler is extremely cringeworthy and definitely sounds like something the 54 year old edgelord would find funny.

So if it’s fake, it’s a good fake!

It seems that Karoline has taken note of what reporters and other media heads (Fox News Peter Doocy for one) are asking about the non-existent list and has copped on that it can be best to let others answer for themselves.

“According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list. So what happened to the Epstein client list that the attorney general said she had on her desk?” Doocy pressed White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, who insisted Bondi was speaking in generalities.

“She was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork and relation to Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes, that’s what the attorney general was referring to, and I will let her speak for that,” she asserted.

With a degree of seriousness now, how would China react to an attempt by the U.S Govt to persuade Pharma Co's linked to the U.S to up stakes and fly home to the U.S with commercials interests China has invested in for the future commercial good of China?

If one takes it for granted (easily enough if one sees Trump as NOT being as good a commerce genius as he claims) that it is some-one from within his chosen team who is promoting use of the tariffs threat, how far would China go to protect its own commercial pharma interests by nullifying the threat? Would it put a black on any transfer of any part of the U.S companies properties being removed from within China's national interests? It has a lot of its own nationals employed in its pharma industry and an increase in the jobless numbers, along with a cut in U.S. Dollar income, wouldn't be acceptable.

I hate to split hairs but while you are correct to say that Trump does not have a plan beyond satisfying his short term impulses, the creatures he has surrounded himself with absolutely do. The Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society and the like will be doing Trump's long term strategic planning and thinking for him and they know full well what they're doing.

That's the beauty part though. He just has to sign whatever they put under his nose. That's it.

That's one of the things that Trump will do regardless as he's his own man, which, alongside making most other people seem to be responsible adults and much more preferable to be president, means he will screw up (to an uncertain degree) the best laid plans of those behind him and the 2025 Plan.

His reactions (that being what they are) to what others do and say put even a few of his own team in a good light, even if it's only because they are keeping their mouths zippered (like Rubio) to protect their own individual GOP career prospects. Rubio's foreign travel efforts are doing him no harm in Trumps eyes while distancing him from Washington's gaffes as Trump is given first place in broadcasting them as wins for him.

First off, I don't have much reason to trust the Daily Mail to publish an unbiased story about Trump, without a tendency to have it show him in a good light or to provide a distraction from the troubles bothering him so I don't know why the items in the following D/Mail story remained unpublished until the present.

There's a 4 hours-old story, by Elena Salvoni, in the Daily Mail that Trump told a 2024 private meeting of donors that during his first term he told Putin that if Russia (Putin) invaded Ukraine, he (Trump) would bomb the (expletive) out of Moscow an audio tape appears to reveal. According to the D/Mail, a recording of a gathering during a 2024 fundraiser seemingly shows the now-President stating that Russia would have never invaded Ukraine in 2022 had he been in office.

Apparently in reference to his first term, Trump said: 'With Putin I said, "If you go into Ukraine, I’m going to bomb the [expletive] out of Moscow. I'm telling you I have no choice."' He then claimed Putin responded: '"I don't believe you, no way"... and I said "way".'

Later in the conversation, Trump can also be heard claiming that he issued a similar threat to China 's President Xi Jinping if he chose to invade Taiwan. 'I said the same thing to them, I said "if you go into Taiwan I'm going to bomb the [expletive] out of Beijing ". 'He thought I was crazy. He said "Beijing! You can't even bomb [inaudible]." I said, I have no choice. He believed me 10 per cent... and we never had a problem.'

According to the D/Mail story, the remarks have been uncovered in a series of audio tapes made while Trump was on the campaign trail at fundraisers in New York and Florida. The recordings were obtained by journalists Josh Dawsey, Tyler Pager and Isaac Arnsdorf, who shared audio of the conversation with CNN. Details of some of the exchanges have been published in their new book called 2024. The White House was contacted for comment regarding the published audio and claims. The D/Mail story has no mention of a response from the White House in its story.

President Trump last night ripped into Putin, accusing him of 'bull[expletive]' in negotiations to end war with Ukraine. 'We get a lot of bull[expletive] thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,' Trump told reporters during his Cabinet meeting. Following on from the Trump statement last night about Putin, Russia continued its night-time blitz on Ukraine's cities unabated.