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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    That ear !!!!!!……….looking well, totally unmarked !!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The ones I can find are those such as this lass from the UK

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/i-was-a-british-tourist-trying-to-leave-america-then-i-was-detained-shackled-and-sent-to-an-immigration-detention-centre

    For those who click the link, the subtitle is "But as she tried to leave the US she was stopped, interrogated and branded an illegal alien by ICE. Now back home, she tells others thinking of going to Trump’s America: don’t do it."

    Reality, the headline should be "After working illegally in the US, I was denied entry into Canada, then arrested by US border agents trying to get back into the US"

    Suddenly, according to Guardian readers that's a "Trump's America" problem instead of a "her not understanding the rules of two different countries" problem.

    She had successfully left the US without coming to the attention of ICE agents. Has she picked a flight to Heathrow instead of Canada, she would have least made it home without a stopoff in any detention centers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,664 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The fact that there's an active concern about being prevented from entering the US because you're critical of Trump, that is Trump's America.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/france-academic-denied-entry-united-states-donald-trump-personal-opinion-messages/



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    That's fair enough to bring up, but not related to the earlier matter of "feeling stuck in the country"



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Or they could have handled it without a detention centre at all..

    It's the blunt instrument approach they are taking just to appear "tough".

    That could have been handled in a much much better , less contentious way, without a stay in a detention centre.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,783 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Only if you drop down to his level. For instance, you never trash talk like he does, you never react like he does, fake news etc.

    You stay respectful and criticise intelligently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    The regime is turning the way of Russia/ North Korea,say anything critical of government and you will be punished,, he has the media gagged already because they were his first targets.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Being put in some kind of detention centre if denied access to a country is pretty standard. Now the manner of how the US is currently doing it is a whole other thing of course - the shackles are ridiculous and most people would be detained in the airport (though she was crossing by bus) and there is no plausible reason to keep them in detention for 19 days if they are willing to book prompt travel home. But well, yeah, in most countries she would be sent to detention under these circumstances. The cruelty of ICE detention is, of course, the point. But some perspective is still useful here.

    Unlike these other cases, Burke had been trying to leave the US, rather than enter it, when she was detained for nearly three weeks.

    This bit from the article is fundamentally incorrect though. She was essentially detained trying to re-enter the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I have a buddy in the US that is fairly MAGA orientated. He's also super in to the Epstein stuff. It's at the same time amazing, hilarious and depressing to see how people like that are folding themselves into having nothing left



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,568 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.threads.com/@aaron.rupar/post/DL2o2eSJwzv?xmt=AQF0YkUUQQ6zlzYfe7Vm_krotdl_2w_Cnv8B42PeHAJb-Q

    Very sketchy behaviour by Trump, as he interjects on a question about Epstein.

    It's almost as if there's something to hide....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    The orange clown is gonna end up burying people under the WH, and all his small government cronies will celebrate it. His proud military men will happily do the lifting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Pam Bondi’d body language says a lot in that clip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    As well as the tremble in her voice. Useless ghoul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    America is a weird place.

    I can't get my headd around the fact that no one just turns around to trump, tells him he is a gobshyte and to cop on to himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭yagan


    By their own wording which I linked to their government page they will detain you even if you attempt to self deport.

    Do you want me to post that link again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭mikewest


    Oh but they do. His very first Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (former CEO of ExxonMobil" confirmed he called him "a fcuking moron" when he quit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    He's the President and unquestioned leader of his party (much more so than 1st term). Trump just banishes anyone who doesn't suck up to him enough.

    Was struck by Hegseth praising him after the bombing of Iran. I thought way he phrased it, you'd almost think Trump was right in there planning out the operation and directing it! Think I have heard similar from others (e.g. Rubio).

    Can you imagine it here if all the cabinet ministers had to do a little spiel about the visionary leadership and the strength of Our Taoiseach, M. Martin or whatever everytime they opened their beaks about something in public? It'd be ridiculous, a joke.

    When it comes to the Republicans and Trump's cabinet + officials, the US is now very much the land of the lickspittle, shamelessly brown-nosing the boss!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Thepoet85


    He has the nerve for them to talk about Epstein during a time of awful crisis in Texas, but did he not brag about having the tallest building in part of New York hours after the 9/11 attacks. What an absolute Kunt he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 564 ✭✭✭pad406


    Not only did he brag about it, he either lied or got it wrong. Trump Tower wasn't the tallest but the 2nd tallest left in Manhattan.

    Given what we know now of him, I'll be going with lied.

    But what an utter douche bag to be talking like that after the attack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    The perfect scenario would be for a reporter with accreditation for the WH ask little miss bimbo press secretary a question or two and then go off on a rant telling the assembled what the majority think of Mr. Plump these days, tell it like it really is and fu*k the consequences. Would make great television.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    What were the options? The Canadians wouldn't let her in, the Americans wouldn't let her in. Was she to float downstream, perhaps to the Pacific and swim to Japan? Or just live on the bridge like that guy in Paris Airport who wasn't allowed in and couldn't go back whence he came? She was going to get detained in one country or the other, until deportation proceedings were conducted.

    Post edited by Manic Moran on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    So here’s the thing. I read it before I posted, and saw nothing supporting such a claim.

    Then you posted the above, and so I read it again. And I still saw nothing supporting such a claim.

    I like to think I’ve a pretty good mastery of English, even American English, but if you can find something there which says they’ll happy nab you in the airport or border crossing as you’re on the way out, please point it out for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    Its so they can contribute to causes or people they want to or like, non white people area in disaster, naw not going to help them, good Christian folk that's a yes, they can play God then with their money and not trust the government to use it wisely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    yeah, probably see the first TV live broadcast summary execution in US history…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Trump back on the pharmaceutical bandwagon again. Touting 200% pharmaceutical tariffs on some countries. Probably Ireland is top of the list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,560 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Ah yes, more outlandish nonsense he hopes people will focus on instead of his friend Jeffrey, whose client list he definitely wasn’t in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,348 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    On the Ukraine/Russia war front, it seems from Trumps response to media questions on whom cut back on Air defence supplies to Ukraine "You tell me, you seem to know the answer" that he was getting tetchy on several topics. It seems that after a conversation between Trump and Hegseth as to whether the U.S forces in the Middle East had enough ammunition in reserve to keep up a strong defence if needed, that Hegseth and one of his Pentagon civil deputies discussed the matter and one or other of them came up with the idea that stopping the planned flow of air defence munitions to Ukraine was necessary to the U.S forces in the Middle East and a cutback was put on the Ukraine supply. The problem for Trump began when the media heard about the cutback as, apparently, neither he nor his National Security Advisor Sec State Rubio were informed beforehand.

    Last night, the issue came front and centre for Trump with the media and he apparently lashed out at Putin directly talking about the bullshit (Trump's own word) Putin was saying. It seems that Putin's close Kremlin ally, Medvedev had given an earlier release to the media in Russia which was not complimentary about Trump and the U.S. It seems that Trump was getting hot under the collar and needed to lash out at some-one, this time not Zelenskyy.

    Back to what apparently happened in the Pentagon between Hegseth and his Pentagon deputy on the supply cutback decision, it's not clear yet whether there will be any repercussions for either of those last two people in leaving Trump without a "by your leave" hint or plausible deniability and with no answers in front of the media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,104 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Trump doesn't really do anything to help himself when it comes to Epstein. I expect a lot will come out after he dies, just as it has with so many other celebrities. Wishing Ghislaine Maxwell well wasn't a good look and then there's this gem: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZJorAVgHy7Y



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Handy enough, remove people's health insurance and then increase the cost of medicine by 200%, sure what could go wrong?



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    He's already saying that he'll be giving companies a year to 18 months before the tariffs allegedly kick in, the TACO will be served long before then.

    They'll ask for more time and get it as even if they were really serious about coming back to the US (they aren't) they'd need at least twice that long to get new production facilities up and running.

    They'll smile and nod and spend a bit of money on "planning" but ultimately do nothing significant.



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