Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542023#Comment_123542023

The EU will maul him, it would like literally like flipping a coin in a game of chess.

storker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542054#Comment_123542054

Possibly one in which the EU runs rings around him. With Trump it's always about the drama and fanfare of the deal, the bringing home of the bacon, even if he's been sold a pig in a poke. To him that's uninteresting detail, and when it turns out what a bad deal it was for the US, he'll blame it on the Democrats. He has form here already.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541357#Comment_123541357

Far as I know Federal District Court Judge Breyer did not make any reference to the National Gaurd being deployed in Alabama in 1965. If the final result of this appeal is that both were/are unlawful, then although I would see them being diametrically opposed, it would at least stop, not just Trump`s attempt at using the military to achieve his aims, it would prevent any future President from attempting the same using a pussy-whipped majority party and a stacked Supreme Court by any means other than a change to various Constitutional Amendments.

Johnston deployed the National Gaurd in 1965 not simply because he disagreed politically with the Alabama Governor Wallace, a self declared racist who refused to recognise The Civil Rights Act or Supreme Court rulings. He did it because of America`s own "Bloody Sunday" where Wallace`s racist police force, aided and abetted by civilians of the same ilk with a long history of disappearing those whose skin colour they didn`t like, attacked a peaceful demonstration in Salem 7th. March 1965. Johnston sent in the National Gaurd on 20th. March to protect future protestors from Wallace and his goons.

I cannot think of a more diametrically oppposed examples when the National Guard commander in California has admitted that not only has his troops trained to assist a people going around in plain clothes, showing no ID, armed to the teeth bundling civilians into unmarked vehicles and making them disappear, they have also been assisting them in doing so. I makes me wonder just what training those Marines have been receiving, and just what their role was being envisaged as.

banie01

1st US detention of a citizen by the USMC.

The Posse Comitatus Act (1878) Prohibits the use of the U.S. military (Army and Air Force, and by extension Navy and Marines under DoD policy) to enforce domestic laws without explicit Congressional or constitutional authorization.

In other words, Trump is breaking the law once again.

https://bsky.app/profile/krassenstein.bsky.social/post/3lrjkbzuki22x

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542345#Comment_123542345

Turns out he was a veteran on his way to the VA office. The regime can't go a day without embarrassing themselves. Tomorrow should be fun.

RickBlaine

This guy said he was warned by his liberal friends that Trump would go after all immigrants not just criminals, but he voted for him anyway, and now he's crying foul that his law abiding immigrant employees have been deported. I feel sorry for his employees but f*ck him. He was warned.

https://youtube.com/shorts/CSPy4FmbMFE?si=DqoRwxSM8aVLBz2J

fullstop

https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1933647805995970940?s=61&t=GLVgFVRyXm-jPCnv6S7fXQ

Are we there yet?

Looking forward to seeing where the goalposts relocate to next. Do we go from “well they haven’t detained anyone yet” to “well they haven’t shot anyone in the head in the middle of LA in front of the tv cameras yet”?

Interested in your take on this latest development @Manic Moran

JJayoo

Maga: " oh everyone look a 17 year old trans girl won a highschool race in a town you've never heard of, it's clearly the most pressing issue in Murica"

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542369#Comment_123542369

I strongly doubt it was the first time a US citizen has been detained by Marines in the US.

Perhaps a more balanced view can be found from Reuters?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-allowed-keep-national-guard-los-angeles-more-protests-planned-2025-06-13/

There is no debate that Marines can be used to secure federal buildings. He crossed over some no-entry tape to make a shortcut. He was picked up, handed to DHS, released, and said he was treated fairly and that the Marines were doing their job. Nowhere near the problem some are making it out to be.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542403#Comment_123542403

I had no idea it was the job of the marines to detain people in the country they are supposed to protect. Could have sworn it was the police’s job to do that…

Cody montana

is today his birthday parade?

looksee

6pm today, so not much info about it till tomorrow.

I just watched a video on BBC, a vox pop, of people offering views on whether it was worth the expense and whether it should be held at all, and the overall view was, yes, go for it. Again it was a tightly edited vox pop, which proves less than nothing, but you couldn't help feeling, you are irredeemably thick, you get what you deserve.

machiavellianme

Only a bigliest beautiful 79 years young

Lewis_Benson

Hopefully he chokes on his happy meal toy.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542403#Comment_123542403

Do you think this parade is about the military, or about Trump?

Capt'n Midnight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541829#Comment_123541829

The hamburger ration will be increased from a third of a pound to a quarter of a pound.

That happened. A lot of Americans are bad at basic maths and hence evaluating things like number based political promises.

"More than half the people in the focus groups questioned the price of the third-pounder. They wanted to know why they should have to pay the same price for a third of a pound as they did for a quarter pound at McDonald's. They said A&W was overcharging them. You're ripping them off."

Capt'n Midnight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542113#Comment_123542113

The EU is very good at giving the other party a "win" they can show off at home while cutting a deal that's slightly in the EU's favour.

The devil is in the detail, some thing Trump doesn't do.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542369#Comment_123542369

Krassenstein is a grifter with an agenda, he isnt a reliable or objective source.

Leroy42

Trump said yesterday that the Israel attack on Iran was due to Iran not signing a deal within 60 days.

Trump is admitting that he launched a preemptive war. What happened to all those that claimed Trump never started a war?

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542955#Comment_123542955

why is he ‘ up to his neck’ in supporting Israel with arms, finance, etc. why does he not let the schoolboys at it until they get too tired to fight any longer - like he has decided to to with Ukr?

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542403#Comment_123542403

I think there is no event whee you won't make an excuse for the army.

If this becomes the next Ohio 1970 you will be here trying to play it down.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542915#Comment_123542915

I'd actually tend to agree but equally I'd view Trump to be sending the US in an incredibly authoritarian direction. You seem to be fine with it though.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542403#Comment_123542403

I watched the video shown in the Reuters report and frankly what it showed was an over the top gung-ho attitude from the Marines involved. He was approaching the building through a garden wearing shorts and a t-shirt. What did they think he was doing, gathering ingredients to put together some kind of lethal cocktail of potpourri to attack the building with ?

That fair skinned people were ambling around the building itself without the Marines showing any concern while a dark skinned man was being made lie on the ground to be zip tied wasn`t a great look either. And why was he handed over to Homeland Security rather than being detained by the Marines until the police arrived and more-or-less told them all to cop themselves on. To check his immigration status perhaps ?

I would have thought the U.S. military disgraced itself enough at Fort Bragg without the Marines joining in. According to Military.com soldiers were screened on their political views with those that supported Trumps used as background for his speech, (those that were fat and supported him apparently were sent to sit with those that didn`t support him), where the cheered and applauded his attacks on his political opponents and the media.

I can understand the top brass not wishing to have those that may have looked a bit plump front and centre for the cameras, but I was of the impression that the U.S. military was supposed to be apolitical, but it appears I either got that wrong, or things have changed in that regards.

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542971#Comment_123542971

The Marines were deployed to protect federal buildings, a man approached a federal building as was detained by the Marines until local law enforcement came to take custody of the person. It's certainly not the Marines going around arresting civilians on the streets.

I'd imagine the same situation would have happened if one were to try walk onto a military base. They would certainly be within their rights to detain you.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542915#Comment_123542915

Any chance you could engage with my reply to your assertion Trump isn't a fascist?

Leroy42

Arrested for approaching a federal building?

So anyone approaching a post office is now liable for arrest?

And you see nothing wrong with that?

Not sure even they asked if he was just on a sightseeing tour. Wasn't that the excuse for Jan 6th.

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123543062#Comment_123543062

The building was taped off, so it's more like trespassing. It a post office was closed off and guarded by Marines and Nation Guard, then yes, I would expect them to detain a trespasser.

This wasn't some innocent bystander walking down the street and detained by Marines. They were well within the law to detain the person. It's a completely different situation if the Marines were detaining protesters, protesting on a public sidewalk etc...

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542672#Comment_123542672

I think it has been politicized to such an extent that nobody cares what it’s really about, and what should be a simple celebration of the quarter-century of the Army’s existence has been sidelined, to the Army’s detriment.

Ash.J.Williams

I think fast tracking working peoples citizenship might have worked better than mass deportations

Escapees

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123543185#Comment_123543185

Exactly... But, as I'm finding here, some posters are so anti-Trump and biased that they don't consider the bare facts/evidence or the full story - instead they see only the perspective that fits their beliefs. It's starting to seem like there's an anti-MAGA brigade emerging that are just as biased as the MAGA devotees in how they view events, just on the opposite side.

And by the way, given the background of the ex-soldier detained and the likelihood he would be anti-Trump and his immigration policies, it would not surprise me in the slightest if he orchestrated the incident to generate negative publicity for Trump.