Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

nachouser

Checks and balances etc. It'll be fine.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538645#Comment_123538645

It was obviously a hit job. Waiting for him to open his mouth.

Escapees

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538544#Comment_123538544

I'm by no means a supporter of Trump, but in all fairness, it's a bit 'convenient' that all videos I can find of his removal from the news conference don't include the leadup to it. Can someone direct me to a source for this, as it looks like it's just one half of a story that's being put out there, albeit for a good cause!

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538694#Comment_123538694

According to the BBC he didn't identify himself so the secret service thought he was an attacker.

Sounds like an excuse.

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That’s a … good point alright

Trump trying to spin his failures as positives is classic trump

tarvis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538731#Comment_123538731

perhaps the phone videos were only switched on when the violence began -

My name is URL

all videos I can find of his removal from the news conference don't include the leadup to it.

Really? An elected senator was stopped from speaking and asking questions in his own back yard.

The idea that the SS didn't know who he was, and/or allowed him to get as close as he did just raises further questions.

The leadup to it is what has been going on for the last 4 months

RickBlaine

Another utter hypocrisy of right wing Americans is that they cried absolute bloody murder when covid measures were introduced claiming freedoms were being violated. And yet now when very dubious legal grounds are used to justify armed marines being deployed to LA, or ICE agents regularly incarcerating and deporting people without trial, or the president disregarding people's right to protest, there isn't a peep from them.

AbusesToilets

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538694#Comment_123538694

Here you go. Utter lies from Noem and the regime as per.

https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3lrgj6ff52s26

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538776#Comment_123538776

So the cosplay warrior who doesn`t know what habeas corpus means has now declared a coup.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538776#Comment_123538776

They're there to liberate the city from the socialists. Are they planning to overthrow the state administration?

A Dub in Glasgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538731#Comment_123538731

A ridiculous excuse at that

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538694#Comment_123538694

Most people would only start tk film once they saw a kerfuffle.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123536013#Comment_123536013

Tony Gilroy has said The Empire is based on many different civilisations.

He said he isn't drawing from contemporary politics.

The show’s anti-totalitarian and fascist themes are much wider than just a reference to the contemporary political situation, and are clearly not limited to any specific political struggle.

"The canvas that was being offered was just a wildly abundant opportunity to use all of the nonfiction and all the history and all the amateur reading that I’d done over the past 40 years and all the things I was fascinated by, all the revolution stuff that not only I would never have a chance to do again, but I really wondered if anybody else would ever have a chance to do again," he said.”

Gilroy is obviously completely aware though that everything he is pulling from history is currently relevant.

Trump isnt really a fascist though, more an authoritarian, populist and hypercapitalist.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538816#Comment_123538816

I don`t see how it could be interpreted otherwise.

Leroy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538694#Comment_123538694

Why are people continually willing to.give Trump, and his administration, the benefit of doubt.

He has proved time after time after time that he is al liar and is happy to break any norms.

This is the guy that ambushed Zelensky in the WH. That refuses to condemn Russian aggression. That sat idle while the Congress was attacked and has subsequently pardoned anyone convicted. The administration that illegally removed a man to an El Salvador prison and then refused to bring him back but tried everything to paint him as a terrorist and gang member.

But you think it's unlikely they must have had a good reason to arrest the guy

My name is URL

Trump isnt really a fascist though, more an authoritarian, populist and hypercapitalist.

I'm not really religious. I just use the Father, Son and Holy Ghost thing to make others think they have something to get behind

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538899#Comment_123538899

Not saying this poster is one of a cohort, but one certainly does exist where they caution what they say, by suggesting something in defence of Trump's regime by posing a question or infer something, and then when it's proven not to be true, don't comment further on it.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538847#Comment_123538847

The fact that you think your final sentence represents the kind of leadership you favour is slightly worrying.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538847#Comment_123538847

Fascism in a step by step form

1. Exploiting National Decline and Humiliation: Fascism often presents itself as a solution to perceived national decline or humiliation, appealing to those who feel disillusioned with the existing political order. ✅

2. Cult of Personality and Leader Worship: A strong, charismatic leader becomes central, often portrayed as an "infallible" figure who can restore national greatness. This leader exploits existing social and political tensions. ✅

3. Disregard for Democratic Values: Fascist movements often dismiss democratic ideals, viewing them as weak or ineffective, and undermining institutions that uphold freedom and equality. ✅

4. Identification of Enemies and Scapegoats: A common tactic is to identify "enemies" or scapegoats (e.g., minorities, immigrants, political opponents) who are blamed for the nation's problems. This fosters a sense of unity among supporters while targeting those deemed "outside". ✅

5. Promotion of Propaganda and Lies: Fascism relies heavily on propaganda to manipulate public opinion and control the flow of information. This can include the spread of misinformation and the distortion of reality. ✅

6. Military and Paramilitary Strength: Fascist regimes often glorify the military and embrace paramilitary groups, using them to enforce their ideology and suppress dissent. ✅

7. Control of Mass Media: Media outlets are often brought under government control or influence to ensure that the desired narrative is perpetuated and alternative viewpoints are suppressed. ✅

8. Suppression of Labor Power: Fascism often works to weaken or destroy labor unions and other organizations that represent working-class interests. Corporate power is often protected and expanded. ✅

9. Intertwining of Religion and Government: Religion can be used to legitimize the regime and to reinforce its ideology, often in a way that blends political and religious authority. ✅

10. Emphasis on National Security and Order: Fascist regimes often emphasize the importance of national security and law and order, creating a sense of urgency and need for strong leadership. ✅

Would @MisterAnarchy care to debate any of the above ten steps that are in contention?

extra gravy

The Padillo incident has distracted from ICE Barbie's outrageous comments during the press conference:

"We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialist and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country," she said, shortly before Padilla could be heard identifying himself as a senator and saying he had questions for the secretary."

Translation: "We are going to liberate the city from its democratically elected leadership using the military."

Guess it's up to the people now to liberate themselves from the fascist regime as the Dems have completely abdicated their responsibilities.

Economics101

House Speaker Mike Johnson on the assault on Senator Padilla (it was an assault, don't try to whitewash it):

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5347773-johnson-padilla-press-conference-censure/

The MAGA-Republican party is truly an abomination.

10000maniacs

Trump made a comment about the Indian airplane disaster today.

He said he was on a call to the Indian PM and gave him a few pointers. Yeah Trump knows everything about airplane crashes.

What an omniscient clown.

extra gravy

Meanwhile, Israel attacks Iran.

"I’m not going to start wars, I’m going to stop wars."

Great job again.

fullstop

President of peace indeed. Since trump came back to the White House there has been nothing but conflict in around the world.

extra gravy

Weren't we told by the cult members here that he was a strongman and was feared and respected? Putin and Netanyahu must be laughing their asses off at him.

extra gravy

Judge Charles Breyer finds that President Trump exceeded the scope of his authority and violated the 10th Amendment by federalizing the California National Guard and orders him to return control to Governor Newsom.

TACO time?

At least the judges are doing their jobs.

FishOnABike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538579#Comment_123538579

Do not question der Führer's policies or actions.

everlast75

Trump on Oct 1, 2024, said that we are on the brink of WWIII and a “global catastrophe” because Iran just launched missiles at Israel, which never would’ve happened if he was president.

So another bullsh1t lie, to add to the thousands of others, and even more proof that you cannot believe anything that comes out of his mouth..

Also, Trump was told of this strike, told Israel not to do it, and they did it anyway. Where is MAGA's strong leader?

silliussoddius

Lindsay Graham must be burning through the kleenex.