Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123539576#Comment_123539576

Ninth Circuit has stayed the order pending appeal.

After reading through the District Judge's opinion, I note the one obvious thing he does not address is the previous precedent of federalisation against the governor's wishes by other presidents. It is possible that he believes they were also unlawful, or that the reasoning he uses does not apply in those cases, but it's an interesting omission I will be curious to see addressed.

Leroy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540544#Comment_123540544

So your only issue is that the truth is told? If this was a once-off off I would be in 100% agreement (although I had already seen the lead up, his asking questions and being removed). But this isn't a once-off. This follows a very clear pattern where the media at demonised. Visiting leaders are ambushed. Anyone who dares to criticise or even ask a difficult question is deemed as nasty and their character is attacked.

Trump always states that he prefers violence. From his "I love to punch him in the face' to saying that protesters will be hit hard. That is his language. He is using the Marines in LA for fear. Intimidation. And this is just the natural extension of that. Those around him, and those who support him will want to show that they, too, are hard and willing to take others down.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540565#Comment_123540565

Do you think he's a fascist?

Pdoghue

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540565#Comment_123540565

I was over in the US a few months ago, and this was a common theme.

Personally, I find it staggering that more people don't think that this guy is so different from any other president who's come before in what he's doing with the courts, congress, the universities, the budget, US allies, cosying up to Russia..… mind boggling..

Leroy42

And in the latest instalment of TACO, Trump yesterday admitted that his immigration policy is causing immense harm to agriculture, and he is going to start rowing back on it.

'We're going to have to do something about that (the removal of illegal immigrant farm workers). We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have, maybe what they're supposed to have.'

Another policy failure by Trump.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540632#Comment_123540632

In the strange world of judges decisions anything is possible when one has a chance to explain away decisions by saying "there is a precedent". I don't see Johnsons decision to federalize the NG, for the purpose of facing down the racist governor refusal to allow a black child attend a school in compliance with the law of the land, as bad in law.

I hope the judge doesn't follow the line of convenience some of the SCOTUS bench use when/where precedent SCOTUS decisions are concerned. He might just be contrary [or leftist] enough to give the Admin a "state your case" extra length of rope to hang themselves with. Having to wait for them to state their grounds of appeal is so dull.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540710#Comment_123540710

Trumps comments show how out of control he is within his own administration. There isn't a hope in hell that Tom Homan or Stephen Miller would agree with those comments he made and they are the ones driving the worst of the activities we are watching being carried out by ICE.

Of course, Trump isn't acting because of any sort of aversion to those activities, per se, but because someone has probably had a word in his ear about the impact on commercial operations if such activities continue.

If Joe Biden had said the statement above, word for word, 12 months ago, Trump and Conservative media wouldn't have responded by calling him a radical communist.

AbusesToilets

A deeper dive into how the voting tallies could have been manipulated.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-165658733

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540937#Comment_123540937

And if it's discovered to be true tomorrow, is it too late to prevent mischief in the midterms? They're next.

Every accusation is a confession with the GQP. Guess they weren't ready in 2020, thank goodness for Covid slowing them down.

AbusesToilets

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541024#Comment_123541024

I suppose the hope is that bringing it to light now, gives time for states to investigate and safeguard. If the evidence is solid, then it becomes increasingly hard to ignore the necessity of action. Even for Republicans.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540544#Comment_123540544

You find Newsom the Governor of California disingenuous. Is that to a lesser degree or more than Trump, Noem or any of Trump`s cabinet ?

What I found disingenuous was your original post where had you taken half the time you took to write it you would have found the proof of how despicable an act it was from Noem`s goons while she at the same time was threatening a coup d`ètat.

If anybody deserved being dragged to the ground, handcuffed and arrested it was Trump`s Barbie doll cosplay warrior.

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541040#Comment_123541040

Fake news.

Those magic words that allow them to ignore anything that they do not want to see

10000maniacs

First of a long line of car parts manufacturers files for bankruptcy. Marelli is one of the biggest car parts manufacturers.

They were hit hard by the uncertainty of Trumps idiotic on/off tariffs.

And now because of this, the car manufacturing supply chains are hit even harder. What a complete and utter clueless moron.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540632#Comment_123540632

The last time a U.S. President went over the head of a State Governor on calling out the NG was 60 years ago, and to compare that to today is a case of comparing apples to oranges.

The Governor in question was George Wallace of Alabama who in his inaugral address in 1963 stated "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever". He subsequently refused to recognise the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 and refused to comply with Supreme Court rulings.

Johstone sent in the NG so people could protest peacefully rather than be assaulted, snatched of the streets and made disappear by masked thugs backed by the Governor of Alabama.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541117#Comment_123541117

Barbie never missed a beat. It's as if nothing was happening.

Stone cold.

Patrick2010

The US government has supported right wing governments for years, from Chile to Nicaragua, now Trump has decided to become the leader as he campaigned as per project 2025

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541246#Comment_123541246

In fairness, she's incapable of any facial expressions anymore, so…

poop emoji

https://www.capetownetc.com/news/afrikaner-family-stranded-in-the-us-appeals-for-help-after-seeking-refuge/

the family were under the impression that upon their arrival, they would be provided with comprehensive assistance including housing, jobs, and healthcare.

Unfortunately, their experience has been marred by the harsh reality that few have the resources or network to facilitate such support in a new country.

‘They were understanding that they would be arriving here for complete assistance,’

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I don’t even know where to begin, my sides hurt laughing

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541219#Comment_123541219

I'm not attempting to make any equivalence of the moral purpose, I'm looking at the legal authorities. The bottom line is that in both cases, the Guard was federalised despite the non-assent of the governor. There are presumably differences in the legal environment or processes supporting this move. If not, then Judge Breyer has just declared that the activation in 1963 was also illegal, which I'm willing to accept even if I don't like it. I think it would be a good thing for the future if we were clear where those legal differences lie.

My name is URL

Bishop takes King

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/pope-leo-to-speak-virtually-in-chicago-and-it-will-happen-right-when-trump-military-parade-rolls-out/articleshow/121805509.cms?from=mdr

Igotadose

Well, there's been a lot of discussion about the behaviour the US military, especially Marines and National Guards deployed in LA should follow. One thing seems certain - they shouldn't listen to the idiots at the top of hierarchy in the Pentagon. To call Hegseth useless is being generous, he seems as nutty as a fruitcake and not good at anything at all. Hopefully, as this article predicts, we'll soon see the end of him at the helm.

"Playing Secretary As war looms, Pete Hegseth’s Pentagon is beset by infighting over leaks, drugs, and socks. How long will Trump stand by his man?"

Yes, socks. Apparently there's concern that Hegseth's former chief of staff is a drug abuser and doesn't dress the job.

Also, despite claiming an investigation into 'leaks,' it just looks like internecine office squabbly led by that CoS.

Definitely worth the read, showing how bad things are in the DoD

(https://archive.ph/eIo90)

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541246#Comment_123541246

Someone needs to treat her like she treated her puppy. Evil vacuous wench.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541355#Comment_123541355

the family were under the impression that upon their arrival, they would be provided with comprehensive assistance including housing, jobs, and healthcare.

Should have come to Ireland...

storker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538524#Comment_123538524

It's the way he tells 'em.

storker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538737#Comment_123538737

"The chocolate ration will be increased from 20 grammes to 15 grammes…"

storker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123539946#Comment_123539946

Trump & co aren't even bothering to hide their reacism and misogyny behind a veil of process. They didn't even look at the hiring process that got people their jobs, or evaluate their skills and abilities; they just jumped straight to the conclusion that someone who is female, non-white, or LGBT cannot posibly have obtained a job on merit, regtardless of what those people may actually have achieved in those jobs.

storker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540565#Comment_123540565

I think you haven't been paying attention. How many previous presidents have….

• Refused to accept an election result and fired up a mob to attack the Capitol?
• Killed over half a million Americans by botching the response to COVID?
• Been convicted of 32 felony offences?
• Put an anti-vax conspiracy theorist in charge of the nation's health?
• Cosied up to totalitarian dictators?
• Threatened to withhold disaster funding for political reasons?
• Threatened to annex the territory of allies?
• Informed Vladimir Putin that he can help himself to anywhere he wants?
• Torpedoed the US arms industry by declaring the US to be an unreliable ally and weapons supplier?
• Torpedoed the US tourist industry by alienating visitors from hitherto-friendly countries?
• Torpedoed US agriculture through mass deportations of people who are actually necessary.
• Authorised a gutting of public services that was supposed to save trillions but actually saved bugger all?
• Authorised the kidnapping of people, even American citizens?
• …etc

JJayoo

Just a slightly better aim

kneemos

He wants a trade deal with the EU. What are the odds it turns out to be worse than what was already there?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41650313.html

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542023#Comment_123542023

The EU won't sign a deal with a lunatic