Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Pauliedragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535046#Comment_123535046

I'd be **** it if I was FIFA ahead of next year it could turn into a disaster. The way he's going he'll be twice as mad next year regarding borders. Some fans will be crossing between the 3 countries multiple times as the tournament goes on. I'd be seriously looking at my plans if I was hoping to head to the WC.

valoren

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123534969#Comment_123534969

Exactly. From the Democrats being listless and leaderless Trump has effectively created a foil for himself.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123534604#Comment_123534604

Nelson from the simsoms in my head looking at that

"Ah haaa"

mountain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535046#Comment_123535046

trump will give the National Guard and the Marines free tickets to fill the stadiums

aloyisious

It seems that Hegseth may have spoken publicly again about something the White House would prefer not to be spoken about. His reported latest gaffe is that the mobilization of the Nat Gd units in California and the Marines is part of a Trump copybook plan to see if it works and, if so, it will be repeated by Trump in other US states.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535074#Comment_123535074

They hosted a world cup in Qatar and plan to host one in Saudi. As bad as things are I really do not think the US is going to struggle to host one.

patnor1011

Donald Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, revealed that the raids that sparked the violent LA riots were not for immigration purposes.

Homan explained that the raids that took place in downtown Los Angeles on Friday were part of a criminal investigation into a money laundering scheme and cartel activity.' (Sex Trafficking.)

It wasn’t an immigration raid.

It was to service of three criminal warrants at locations based on a large criminal conspiracy that ICE is investigating,' Homan on MSNBC.

 In other words, the outrage over ICE raids that supposedly sparked the LA riots is totally manufactured.

There were no violent federal immigration agents hauling away peaceful immigrant families etc.

 As usual, the left’s entire violence-justifying narrative is a tissue of lies.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/border-czar-tom-homan-says-183008018.html

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535158#Comment_123535158

Is that a gaffe, though? I would have assumed that to be the case regardless.

Near as I can tell, this is basically a win-win-win for Trump, since they have been apparently scrupulous about remaining within the lawful authorities of Title 10 forces.

1. Things blow over without much more trouble, ICE continues its immigration enforcement operations. Win for Trump.
2. Things blow over after moderate rioting and the like, almost certainly going to happen in Democrat-run cities if it happens anywhere. In any case, handled purely by state authorities, with or without the National Guard. Cue talking points of "Democrats being violent against enforcing federal law." Win for Trump, bigger win if National Guard required. And ICE likely continues its enforcement operations.
3. Things don't blow over without getting so far out of control that the state authorities can no longer handle matters, even with EMACs (Basically loans of personnel from other jurisdictions and states) and they are forced to request federal assistance. ICE presumably continues its enforcement operations. Win for Trump.

The only way I see this not coming out in Trump's favour is if Trump (Or Homan) decides to stand down. Anyone want to place any bets on this happening?

Will it utterly terminate chances of Republicans in those areas in future elections? Absolutely. But who was the last Republican mayor of LA? The loss in the big scheme of things does not appear to be major for Republicans. Will it affect chances in Republican areas in swing states where they may not like to see current ICE operations being conducted as they are? Possibly, but I'm thinking it's a bet the Republicans are willing to take on the national level. https://www.newsweek.com/donad-trump-democrats-immigration-poll-2083918

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535174#Comment_123535174

As backward as Qatar is, I don't think they arrested foreign supporters for anything other than public order offences? I would not bet on the same thing happening in the US.

Pauliedragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535174#Comment_123535174

It probably will work out but my point was Qatar didn't have 2 other hosts alongside them. The US does and they don't get along right now with the other two especially people arriving from Mexico in droves. Vance already made comments about it recently regarding the upcoming club wc.

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123534969#Comment_123534969

I think the penny dropped for him that there is a path to the White House out of all this if he's plays it right. He's going in hard.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535189#Comment_123535189

And he'd never lie to the press to suit his agenda now would he??

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535189#Comment_123535189

"Donald Trump's border czar, Tom Homan.."

Yeah... Maybe what he's saying is bullsh1t ...

ilkhanid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123534739#Comment_123534739

There are even stories by prisoners in Stalin's GULAG that they encountered other inmates that still supported the regime.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535074#Comment_123535074

Why? FIFA has conclusively proven that it is morally bankrupt. At least the US didn't use slave labour to build its stadiums.

extra gravy

RE: the Fort Bragg "speech":

"internal 82nd Airborne Division communications reviewed by Military.com reveal a tightly orchestrated effort to curate the optics of Trump's recent visit, including handpicking soldiers for the audience based on political leanings and physical appearance.

One unit-level message bluntly saying: "No fat soldiers."

"If soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration and they don't want to be in the audience then they need to speak with their leadership and get swapped out," another note to troops said

The insecure clown made sure he had the clapping seals behind him.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/11/bragg-soldiers-who-cheered-trumps-political-attacks-while-uniform-were-checked-allegiance-appearance.html

RickBlaine

I like that Jimmy Kimmel ended his segment with a clip of multiple previous presidents talking about the virtues of immigration.

Pauliedragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535337#Comment_123535337

My point was if I was a football fan who was planning a trip to next years world cup most of whom might have spent years saving up money to witness what is for most people a once in a lifetime experience I would feel very nervous about travelling there the way things are. My reference to FIFA was only meant to be about how much of a shitshow this tournament could turn into and the poor punter will end up paying not FIFA themselves. FIFA being nervous meaning they lose money. When that happens the poor punter at the bottom of the ladder has to.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535189#Comment_123535189

ICE have form for violent raids on hauling away peaceful immigrants families though.

Has Homan given a public commitment that no such raids will occur in LA?

Nope.

So when a huge ICE presence is observed near a location immigrants are known to congregate, understandably there is concern about detenion of immigrants.

Why is ICE (border and customs) investigating money laundering in downtown LA without involving local law enforcement? If they werent there for immigration raid?

The protests started over detentions of workers in a Home Depot parking lot, as well as the raids Homan notes.

As usual the Trump administration is not giving the full picture.

The tissue of lies is the false narrative the administration is spinning re sending in the National Guard and Marines for which there is no actual justification. And indeed an act Trump himself has called such an act an abuse of power. So there you go, a tacit admission this just a power play by Trump against a Democratic state.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/la-protests-immigration-raids-ambience-apparel-home-depot-rcna211814

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535380#Comment_123535380

I'm not sure I can trust anyone in the Trump administration when it's an article of faith within that bubble that there are, at the least, major concerns about the 2020 election, despite it being the most heavily audited and examined election in recent US history, if not all time.

That wouldn't be to say you can dismiss other claims out of hand, but they would require a good bit of 3rd party verification before gaining credence.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123534969#Comment_123534969

Its mostly posturing by Newsom, trying to build his own profile much like Cuomo did during Covid.

Remember people saying how they thought Cuomo would make a great President, when he stood up to Trump.

Alot of people even said he should get the nomination ahead of Biden such was the media campaign around Cuomo.

Then the truth started to come out about Cuomo.

These guys are all in in for their own glory.

Lirange

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535205#Comment_123535205

And a slightly more recent poll (June 5-9) shows him underwater on immigration (-11) & (-16) on deportations. These are his lowest numbers across the board this term from the pollster.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3924

The NW article you linked compares polls on the topic from 8 years ago to put a shine on it. I think trends over the last 6 months are more pertinent. Even in the polls you cite above his only alleged favourable policy area isn’t exactly an overwhelming success if his best issue polls put him at +1. Moreover his overall general approval isn’t recovering. Sure his partisan support, as always, remains intractable. But since the outset of this term he has lost significantly among independents & Democrats have never been this aligned against him. It will be interesting to see how Americans react to him throwing himself a Moscow/Pyongyang style birthday bash parade to the tune of $45 million at taxpayer’s expense.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535174#Comment_123535174

The stadiums will be packed to the rafters.

The demand for tickets will be immense, FIFA are planning on using dynamic pricing such is the predicted demand.

The US has the infrastructure to run a big tournamanent, they do do so regularly.

People are believing too much nonsense published in the media.

Just like the Homan explanation for the Raids, the media have an agenda.

RickBlaine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123534371#Comment_123534371

Of all the spineless, gutless, and sycophantic Republicans, Mike Johnson is the most spineless, gutless, and sycophantic. A pathetic hypocritical weasel of a man. Just a gormless smirk in a suit. The fact that he has "Christian" as part of his Twitter bio is either sarcasm or a shocking display of self-delusion.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535396#Comment_123535396

These guys are all in in for their own glory.

Seeing a Trump supporter say this, hilarious.

A Dub in Glasgo

It is surreal… Trump is a destroyer of what we know and yet there are some who ham shank over his every word

https://twitter.com/CalltoActivism/status/1932542053516189992

looksee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT7R48FM1tk

This speech by Charlie Angus, ex-MP in Canada, is worth listening to. He barely touches on what is going on within the US, but his list of trump activities and statements that affect the rest of the world, and particularly Canada, is disturbing.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535189#Comment_123535189

 As usual, the left’s entire violence-justifying narrative is a tissue of lies.

More own goals.

You actually believe this administration? If you do, you will literally believe anything.

interlocked

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535441#Comment_123535441

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/12/mike-johnson-christian-nationalist-lawmakers-moses.html

I don't think you realise the scale of delusion that consumes Johnson. He believes literally that God spoke with him and that he was handpicked by God to be Speaker.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/mike-johnson-america-god-wrath-jim-garlow-1234879233/

A man that believes he was handpicked by God and is on a mission to save America from depravity is a deeply frightening spectre. Anything can be justified in this quest if it eventually leads to the desired outcome.

My name is URL

The EU should just go ahead and freeze Trump's assets. For a laugh if nothing else