Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

fullstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533081#Comment_123533081

He’s looking at it very strongly. It will be released very soon, probably in the next 2 weeks (as he has been saying since 2020).

I see he tried to 1-up Newsom by proving they had spoken “yesterday”. Posted a screenshot of calls 3 days before 😂

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533094#Comment_123533094

This is only 5 months into his presidency, as well. Another 3 1/2 years of this. At the least, another 1.5 years of it until the US midterms, which I don't know how much will even matter by then if Trump can really make his executive branch supreme.

poop emoji

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533144#Comment_123533144

Right after infrastructure week is complete

storker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532478#Comment_123532478

Yes. It's called "killing people". Just look at the kind of leaders he admires.

yagan

I've been saying he'd turn his attention to civil agitation when he got bored of blowing up US trading relations and he really is going at it hard, although I reckon he'll Taco to some degree, but like the baseline 10% tariff he'll keep ICE active but maybe in a compromised form where state agents must accompany them.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533175#Comment_123533175

He's currently 78. Can't imagine what he's going to be like in 3 years when he's still president at 81.

I'd say by that stage if he's still around it'll be more of a Weekend at Bearnie's style situation with Vance pulling the strings.

storker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532995#Comment_123532995

It's funny how MAGA supporters are suddenly OK with the idea of having two dads…

Leroy42

Trump yesterday stated that protest is now considered illegal and will be met with force. He didn't say violent protest, he didn't say insurrection. He said 'protest'. So that's it. Any attempt to voice your disapproval, to show your discontent, will be met with full force.

Americans, your right to peaceful protest and free speech is being removed right before your eyes, and yet it is hardly registering. You even have plenty of people applauding the deployment of Marines, trained to kill US enemies, into a US city.

There is also the less important, but still telling, matter that Trump openly lied in the Oval Office. When asked if he talked to Newsom, he froze a bit and then proceeded to lie. Like a child talking about doing their homework or eating the ice cream.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533267#Comment_123533267

I don't think Trump is going senile, though. He was still able to riff during speeches before last year's election, he had the presence of mind to land that "I don't know what he just said, and I don't think he does either" jab after Biden went off the rails, got up and made sure to get a photo op after that he almost got shot. And he seems to remember every single ever perceived slight against him. He does talk a lot of random nonsense in his speeches, but he's not stopping to consider his words - he's just throwing muck at the wall.

Anyway, it's been Trump's greatest asset that his opponents keep assuming that he'll just self-destruct in some way that requires no intervention on their part. It used to be all the crazy, divisive things he said. That didn't work out so well. These days, it's senility or general fitness. I would say his opponents have to be more proactive and not assume anything….

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533366#Comment_123533366

All the things you describe are like lizard reflexes, but that doesn't mean he isn't actually going senile.

His whole slock is "whatever is the norm I'm against it", which the lazy and discontent lap up. The only pattern seem to be where he introduces a new chaos at the start of each week, probably after something he saw on TV or something someone uttered within earshot over the weekend.

I'd call it instinctual rather strategic thinking.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533340#Comment_123533340

THe boiling frog analogy springs to mind…

aloyisious

As I can't see inside his head [don't want to see the proof of TDS] I don't know for certain if Trump thinks that you have to to deconstruct to reconstruct but looking at the present year Project 2025 plan which he denies exists but which his followers are following faithfully, he is deconstructing the country known as the United States right around its citizens. It's been around now for almost 250 years but not much longer if Trump has his madness succeed. The proof is there for all to see on the streets of LA and California. He's given his spoken approval to his goon squad leader to arrest the elected governor of that state.

fits

what’s happening with the ‘ big beautiful bill’? Puke.

FishOnABike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533144#Comment_123533144

He doesn't seem to know what day it is! Someone should check his cognitive decline.

Stumbling on steps, not knowing what day it is, family history of dementia..... just sayin'

Wolf359f

It's been 2 weeks since he gave Putin another 2 weeks. TACO time again!

He also has 30 days left for the 90 deals in 90 days. So only 90 deals to go!

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533464#Comment_123533464

Seeing as these kinds of zingers and reactive moments are his whole political persona, he may be entirely lizard brain, and so senility wouldn't come into it.

Could Trump become senile in the next three years? I wouldn't say that's impossible. Is he senile right now? I see little evidence of it. When Biden was declining, his public appearances became more coached and limited, needing a teleprompter to deliver even relatively short speeches. Trump just got up and did a whole hour at Fort Bragg the other day, and he's always doing WH press briefings and those weird little Oval Office summits. This doesn't really fit with the idea of a man who has to be coached and cossetted in order to hide a rapidly deteriorating mental condition.

kneemos

They've issued a travel advisory for Italy and Switzerland. Apparently the terrorists are rampant.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533570#Comment_123533570

I think he's already senile. His personality and charisma just cover it up quite well and even if they didn't, corporate media and the Heritage Foundation have too much to gain by publicising his cognitive decline. In other words, whether or not he's senile doesn't matter. Project 2025 is going ahead and if Trump dies, Vance is there to take over.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533570#Comment_123533570

But a whole hour of what at Fort Bragg?

When Micheal Martin went to the White House Trump spoke for 55 minutes, Martin 6. All Trump did was riff on whatever chaos he was pushing that week. Attack and keep pushing, attack and keep pushing, then in the next week attack someone/something else and repeat.

We all know that that's it for the rest of his term, although it might slow down to fortnightly rather than weekly. All his utterances are primal emotional entreaties to his loyal base so they don't need to be coherent.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533592#Comment_123533592

Actual senility, i.e. dementia, means a concerning and increasing inability to complete various basic mental tasks like remembering previously familiar places, people and things. Inability to do basic self care. A general confusion and inability to process the basic information of every day living, like knowing the time.

Once Biden was put in an unscripted scenario last June, his deterioration was glaringly obvious. At times, he failed to even string basic thoughts together and looked completely vacant afterward (thinking particularly of the 'we beat Medicaid' bit). I've seen that same vacant expression with relatives of my own, as I'm sure others here have where you can tell they're not all in there at that time. Haven't seen that with Trump yet.

Loafing Oaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533557#Comment_123533557

Hopefully some journo will bring this up with him over the next couple of days, if they haven't all forgotten it…

everlast75

Just a reminder folks.

Elon said the Epstein files contain damaging material for Trump....

Easy to forget that in the current maelstrom

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533655#Comment_123533655

Right but it's not a binary situation. Compare Trump speaking in the 2000's or even in the past decade to today and the decline is obvious. He can barely construct sentences or stay even remote focused. We also do not know what's going on behind the scenes as well.

Baba Yaga

what beach are the marines using in los angeles…? malibu…? are they going to have a couple of helicopters up a la apocolypse now playing wager with the volume turned to 11…

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533676#Comment_123533676

He looked pretty focused and articulate when he was berating Zelensky at the White House a few months back. I didn't agree with any of what Trump was saying, mind, but of all the thoughts I had about it, one was not 'obvious cognitive decline'.

There have been a lot of whistle blowers on Trump since the start of his last administration who had worked closely with him. Out of all of them, the overwhelming message has been that he's an ignorant, narcissistic blowhard who is bent on vengeance and personal glorification, but words about overall cognitive function don't get much of a look in. I do not say it's never been suggested or claimed by anyone that he is going that way, but the floodgates don't seem to have opened as they have on Biden, and there would be a lot of interest to get rid of Trump within and without the Republican party and they'd be only too happy to stick the knife in on this basis if there was real grounds to do so.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533725#Comment_123533725

Did he? He was rabbiting on about cards and Zelenskyy not wearing a suit for what most people would assume are obvious reasons. Trump at his core is a racist, a bully and a con-man. The only reason I wasn't thinking about Trump's decline at the time was because I was disgusted at his behaviour.

I could offer my own examples of course from injecting bleach to Haitians eating dogs and cats to confusing Biden with Obama to talking about how we could see World War 2.

kneemos

700 bloody Marines on standby for what is a bit of a protest. Much worse in N Ireland band the police are dealing with it.

But of course California would no longer exist only for him.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533725#Comment_123533725

All his Oval office ambushes are prepared, with a supporting cast of grinning goons smiling manically behind Trump and throwing in unsubstantiated dogs at their victim.

No foreign representative other than netenyahu expects a warm oval office reception.

For Forks Sake

Perfectly normal country 🙄 should do wonders for tourism

https://twitter.com/nbc6/status/1932594681235321291?t=1WVioVAXY4bFjM7fw6JvXg&s=19

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533340#Comment_123533340

Hes just done what he's been doing for the last 8 years.

He's said the quiet part out loud. And his useful idiots defend him by saying 'what he really meant was violent protest is illegal' but that's not what he really meant, he really meant what he really said, like he's been doing this entire time.

Most 'respectable' republican politicians are careful to cover up their true intentions with weasel words and platitudes. Trump just says the quiet part out loud.

Protest in the US is now illegal unless its protesting against something Trump wants them to protest about.

Covering your faces is illegal, unless you're a thug working for ICE disappearing people from their school or workplace or off the side of the road

Causing violent disorder is a crime, unless you're shooting innocent peaceful unarmed people in the face with rubber bullets or trampling them with horses

The right to free assembly has been revoked, the right to privacy is long gone, your data, all of it, will be aggregated and used by the US fascist government as a weapon against you. If you have ever been a leader of any group who organise to oppose fascism, you are now on a list.

Americans are free to do as he tells them to do