Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404299#Comment_123404299

Yeah unfortunately there's far too much "We're only reporting on what was said" without offering any factual rebuttal on when what was said is demonstrably false.

ixoy

I wonder if they're afraid to push on questions in case they get kicked out of White House briefings?

Cody montana

GDP growth slows to -0.3%, marking the first negative growth since Q1 2022

Oh!

fullstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404357#Comment_123404357

The press briefings are nothing more than a farce anyway. Most of the reporters have been replaced by right-wing ‘influencers’.

ixoy

It's a bit disappointing that CNN aren't going harder on him. He already hates them so they should be pushing the facts out in interviews. Get their own Jeremy Paxman.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404533#Comment_123404533

CNN aren't much better than Fox News or OANN. Trump needs the enemy within for his agenda and CNN fits that part perfectly while they benefit from the current situation.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404533#Comment_123404533

I think as with what happened to the Associated Press when they denied access for not referring to the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America, CNN are likely afraid to go too hard and lose access. After all, reporting on Trump is what brings a lot of their viewers in. If they're on the sidelines and only able to report on what others are reporting/asking, viewers may end up going directly to those sources.

Of course, all those who voted for Trump because of how he'd protect free speech are the ones who are most quiet about it.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404441#Comment_123404441

Now, you see - you got it all wrong...

So, when the figures were great under Biden's administration, it was because the stock market anticipated great times under Trump.

And when figures are poor under Trump, that's Biden fault.

Do you see now?? 🤪

randd1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404569#Comment_123404569

MAGA of course will lap it up. Because they really, really are that stupid, and really, really that much of a cult.

Hillary was wrong when she called them deplorables, retarded deplorables would have been more apt. And by retard I mean being so stupid and lacking in intelligence as be classed as retarded.

Not a brain cell between them.

yagan

Again it's worth iterating, the USA is now under the control of a cult.

Anyone still in doubt?

Only question now is how will it unravel. I won't be surprised if there's civil war.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404569#Comment_123404569

What a pathetic excuse for a leader.

Last quarter under Biden was 2.3% I believe.

Now it’s -0.3%.

That’s some swing.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404661#Comment_123404661

There won't be a civil war. Americans are just too sycophantic and pliant. Trump has continually abused the constitution and the system and all Americans do is clap like seals or wail on social media. They live in a corporate oligarchy and they've convinced themselves that it's somehow the greatest democracy to ever have existed.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404691#Comment_123404691

I agree. So far there has been next to no real resistance to anything Trump has done. The Democrats are asleep at the wheel. Maybe they have some great plan for the midterms or the next election who knows. They would want to do something soon though or there will be not a Democracy or Republic left to take back as Trump will have made it just like Russia.

Penn

So the stock market which was still going up during the last few months of Biden's term, went up when Trump took office because of Trump, but then dropped sharply any time Trump announced his tariffs on Canada & Mexico before rising again when he put a temporary pause on them and tanked again almost the exact second Trump announced his sweeping tariffs on "Liberation Day", is actually all because of Biden who hasn't been President in over 3 months?

What a f*cking loon…

Suckler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404809#Comment_123404809

The Democrats are asleep at the wheel. Maybe they have some great plan for the midterms or the next election who knows.

I don't even think there's a plan; I think they live in hope that someday Trump will do something so outrageous the public outcry will be a wave they can ride. The problem is, as you said, the slow boil will have the populace conned before they can be too vocal. As long as those who are deemed 'different' are being targeted, there's a sizeable population that will continue to excuse everything else going on.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404307#Comment_123404307

Does Chicago still do the firework display every saturday on Navy pier or has that disappeared with Trumps 145% price hike

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404809#Comment_123404809

The narrative that it's all on the Democrats is just a symptom of the problem though. It's much bigger than which of the two morally putrescent parties is running the show. The French don't look to some party to oppose the government, they do it themselves.

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123403869#Comment_123403869

The summer could well be very interesting to see what happens when the effects of the tariffs such as you mention above start to bite and the peak summer tourism trade is also well down.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404930#Comment_123404930

Was seeing that it's already starting to hit Las Vegas pretty hard, which is almost entirely a tourism-based economy. Tourism, visitors, hotel bookings etc all down around 5% from last year.

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123403926#Comment_123403926

Its basically another Mexico will pay for the wall moment utter rubbish but his deluded and hate filled cult will swallow it right after they get done with the bleach!

salmocab

conservatives in general and American conservatives in particular just want someone to blame. They don’t really care for much else out of trump, he blames Biden the media the liberal left foreigners anyone for anything. They don’t want to blame themselves for any ills in their country and he gives them someone to blame for everything. That’s all they want

Champagne Sally

I am currently watching Hitler's Circle of Evil on Netflix. It's chilling really, the comparisons that can be made to USA today. Only thing is that Goebbels the master of propaganda, absolute evil and lunatic bas***d, that he was, was very intelligent, don't know if the same could be said for the sycophants surrounding Trump today. Very good documentary, would highly recommend if you haven't seen it yet.

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404939#Comment_123404939

For sure places like that and Florida will be hit harder by the fall in tourism.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404962#Comment_123404962

The thing with NASDAP was that Hitler was an incredibly lazy man. Like, he never rose before noon. What that created was a power vacuum in which various horrible people such as the aforementioned Goebbels and one Hermann Goring jostled for power and advancement. This created incentives for ever more extreme policies and actions.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404691#Comment_123404691

All that tells me is that they'll boast about having the best civil wars.

I don't mean to be glib, but they'll crater their civil society after they've catered their economy.

It will be mad max territory but at least they've got their f150s and guns to doing at eachother. Their civilisation nodes will be around oil refineries.

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404963#Comment_123404963

Both Florida and Nevada state rely on sales tax for their income, it accounts for 75% of it's income as they don't have income tax. They will be limited in what they can do to raise revenue if there's a drop in tourist spending their money.

I've a feeling it's going to be all these little things that will just compound with each other over time to cause serious issues in the US. All the stats on their own ain't too bad, but put them all together it's like a death by a thousand cuts.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404994#Comment_123404994

The English have the best civil wars but that's besides the point.

I think they've already cratered said civil society. It was constructed and consolidated amid perpetual immigration and booms. Now that the economy isn't doing so well, the cracks and the lack of a safety net are much more obvious. If the state isn't going to look after millions of people when they need it then said people will wonder what the point of the state is.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123405014#Comment_123405014

Good point - Also , the Sales tax is applied to the retail price so the $10 thing that costs $10.75 at the till with ~7.5% sales tax will take a larger hit post tariffs. Maybe the increase will offset the Tourist losses??

The retails price will now pop to ~$25 with 145% tariff and THEN you pile on the sales tax on that too.

Consumers in States with sales tax are going to get hit a little harder than those in States without.

Champagne Sally

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404989#Comment_123404989

Indeed Capaill, and apparently he would have everyone for dinner and rant on in monologues until 3 or 4am keeping everyone else up. Typical narcissist. Also let's not forget Himmler, the genocidal maniac. I could never understand before why the germans just fell for the propaganda, but watching this and seeing what Goebbels did, it all makes sense.

Bocadilloo

Here we go again, another press conference with all the stooges getting their speak in.

As close to a cult as you will ever see, it's exhausting trying to watch what these morons do to the stock market next.

Their plan for more air traffic controllers? Increase the retirement age to keep them on, I kid you not... What could go wrong in a high stress role? Would you be happy with 70 somethings monitoring several dozen flights coming in constantly???

It's not agist, but that role should have an early retirement age, not the other way round