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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    similar to Brexit in the UK. It’s difficult to argue passionately for moderate policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Yesterdays clown moment. This clown thinks China will pay the tariffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    No I completely get that. My point is that Trump is claiming his reasons for wanting Canada to become their 51st state are that the US can't continue financially supporting Canada through their trade, there's no need for a border between their countries, and it'd be a benefit to both countries if Canada became part of the US. So it should be put to Trump that if there are all these benefits, would he accept Canada joining if they joined as 13 new states rather than one. Then the facade of what a benefit it would be to both countries would be dropped, because the only difference between Canada joining as one state versus joining as 13 states would be the fact it would be politically disasterous for the GOP in terms of vote share.

    I mean, it's an idea that shouldn't be entertained to begin with for a vast multitude of very simple reasons, but I'd just like to see Trump trying to defend his plan while showing he'd put the GOP over these supposed great benefits to both countries. It would definitively highlight that Trump's wants regarding Canada would be for exactly what you say; stripping Canada down to the bone and forcing all the healthcare, insurance, control of education, deregularisation etc onto Canadians and Canadian businesses rather than making them a true part of the USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,096 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Isn't it also funny how he's pushing to get rid of that imaginary border on the land mass and make Canada the 51st state, but doesn't seem to care about that imaginary border at the south and making Mexico the 52nd state???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,173 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The Director of the Economic Council doesn't understand tariffs. Or lying more likely.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,297 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    From his speech yesterday:

    "gasoline prices are down by a lot" - they are slightly up

    "just hit $1.98 in a lot of states" - The lowest in any state is $2.67

    "Since I took office, the cost of eggs is down 87%." - False

    If any leader in our country stood up and gave such blatantly false petrol prices there'd be war.

    Even Trump's contrarian supporters here have gone deathly silent. This stuff and so much from the past 100 days is un-spinnable even for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,198 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He's a well known racist and his hatred of Mexicans is common knowledge. It's like when Nigel Farage was talking about deepening Commonwealth ties during the Brexit debates but he only ever mentioned white-majority countries.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭threeball


    Its mental how cheap their fuel is and these fcukers keep moaning about it. They're nearly getting a gallon for what we pay per litre and its still too much for them. The sense of entitlement is palpable. They went ahead an intentionally wrecked an economy in the vain attempt to reduce egg and fuel prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Just looked at the BBC and RTE websites' reporting of Trump's 100-day rally. The lack of critical rebuttal of his lies is depressing. I suppose "balance" means they must give as much credit to Trump as they do to his rivals. I really wish the reporting uf such events would come with a robust fact-checking: I am sure it would be easy to construct a list of, say the top 10 lies he utters in a speech

    Listing all the lies would take up too much space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,781 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    According to economist article I read this morning the chickens are coming home to roost

    Or in case of trade the sailings from Asia to US fell off a cliff, the stock markets are in for a surprise once shelves start to go empty USSR style



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    8.45 is bizarre and the guy gives me such weird vibes.

    "I don't think that Americans want to give President Trump a chance because they like the way he looks on TV. Although, I think he's great on TV."

    I'm surprised she just let him get away with claiming suppliers pay the tariffs. He even claimed that Amazon doesn't know how tariffs work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Yes, the likes of RTE and the BBC are complicit by itheir lack of flood defences.

    Meanwhile, retribution against FBI agents for taking the knee 5 years ago: real totalitarian stuff:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/30/politics/fbi-agents-blm-protest/index.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,105 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It's nice that China is so kind it'll foot the bill the US is applying to Chinese imports - another bar of soap in mouth occasion. When Christmas arrives, who'll foot the bill for the seasonal lights?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭threeball


    They won't need to. No toys for the kids so instead of bringing Christmas back, he cancelled it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Miriam O'Callaghan took it to a new level last night.

    She had a Maga spokeswoman on who proudly proclaimed that the tariffs are working and that the government had taken in billions because of the tariffs since April 2nd.

    Miriam didn't challange her and make the point that the reason is that it's an import tax and US citizens are being shook down for this money at the ports. And ultimately it will be passed on to their customers.

    Miriam rarely asks the probing questions in any interview. She was useless when Brexit was happening too. I really miss Marian Finucane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,436 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Too brown and wrong language. On that note, would they force Quebec into speaking English? That wouldn’t go down too well!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,828 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    That's the problem, very few reporters challenge them.

    Like Trump claiming $2bil a day in tariffs were collected when in fact it was only $200mil. Why can't reporter ask where the missing $1.8bil has disappeared to? That's a massive amount of fraud committed daily under his watch etc… Spin it around.

    Or Trump insisting tariffs will mean there will be no income tax but when he rows back on the tariffs and doing deals with countries, why is he doing that? It's basically taking money out of people's pockets because they will have to pay income tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,013 ✭✭✭yagan


    The problem with not challenging MAGA pronouncements is that the news outlet that regurgitates them appears to tacitly accepts those assertions as facts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,197 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I've been calling it journalistic malpractice for quite some time.

    As the old saying goes... If one person says it’s raining and another says it’s not raining then the journalist should look out the window first and then report the truth

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    never mind Xmas guess where 95% of fireworks they use on 4th of July come from



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah unfortunately there's far too much "We're only reporting on what was said" without offering any factual rebuttal on when what was said is demonstrably false.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I wonder if they're afraid to push on questions in case they get kicked out of White House briefings?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    GDP growth slows to -0.3%, marking the first negative growth since Q1 2022

    Oh!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,375 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    The press briefings are nothing more than a farce anyway. Most of the reporters have been replaced by right-wing ‘influencers’.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    It's a bit disappointing that CNN aren't going harder on him. He already hates them so they should be pushing the facts out in interviews. Get their own Jeremy Paxman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,198 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    CNN aren't much better than Fox News or OANN. Trump needs the enemy within for his agenda and CNN fits that part perfectly while they benefit from the current situation.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think as with what happened to the Associated Press when they denied access for not referring to the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America, CNN are likely afraid to go too hard and lose access. After all, reporting on Trump is what brings a lot of their viewers in. If they're on the sidelines and only able to report on what others are reporting/asking, viewers may end up going directly to those sources.

    Of course, all those who voted for Trump because of how he'd protect free speech are the ones who are most quiet about it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,197 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Now, you see - you got it all wrong...

    1000007392.jpg

    So, when the figures were great under Biden's administration, it was because the stock market anticipated great times under Trump.

    And when figures are poor under Trump, that's Biden fault.

    Do you see now?? 🤪

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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