Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406367#Comment_123406367

Direct employees are only the tip of the iceberg in the supply chain for any big business like a billion dollar casino

The laundry is contracted, the cleaners are contracted, the hookers are not exactly on the books….

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406461#Comment_123406461

Don't know how long it will take, but like all 'lets wait and see' strategies, by the time they'll have figured it out, it will be way too late to undo the damage.

It took brexiters half a decade to finally accept that they weren't going to get the brexit they were promised, and about half of these people still think that their vote was correct, its just that malign actors got in the way and sabotaged them.

In that half a decade, the forces that caused MAGA and Brexit have already shifted to screwing over the next generation of voters with a new brand of bullshit that they'll eventually figure out, a decade after it's too late for them.

Is there any hope? yes, but not for everyone.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406513#Comment_123406513

As some have pointed out though, this is ten times worse than Brexit as it affects all parts of the US economy, not just certain aspects. This is disastrous stuff - a total clown in charge who knows nothing about economics or finance and he's there for the next four years.

joseywhales

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123403452#Comment_123403452

And at the time Canada was a British territory and if you ask a Canadian they will tell you the forces were largely Canadian

Economics101

How long before the various statistical agencies within the Federal Government get corrupted? Will there be fiddling with the Consumer Price Index, the monthly Job creation numbers, the tariff revenue statistics, …..?

If the administration is corrupt enought to fire the authors of a legally mandated climate assessment report, they are corrupt enough to threaten economists and statisticians who do do not do as they are told.

J Mysterio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406565#Comment_123406565

If you take a look at Wikipedia, you will see it confirmed that the army acting DC was exclusively British.

circadian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123403117#Comment_123403117

Combine this incident with Steven Miller interjecting during a presser and claiming the supreme court 0-9 vote was in their favour. I would question if his staff are just running the show and manipulating him into thinking they're good ideas and will happily let him believe stuff like this.

circadian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406152#Comment_123406152

so it's possible that he's simply an idiot in a feedback loop through right wing media? Amazing, like something out of Idiocracy.

Jinglejangle69

Russia has done on a number on us.

Slowly but surely

Iecrawfc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123405439#Comment_123405439

Nah there needs to be more pain, so much so that the most dim witted cult follower can see that the orange buffoon caused this(whether it be retirement wiped out, unemployment, loved one dying owing to unaffordable/unavailable medicine, homeless from a tornado and no federal assistance, no Medicaid etc. etc.) Think he can get away with blaming Biden for another few months and the cult will believe...

thereiver

There are predictions there will be shortages of products on shop shelves as the rate of imports from china falls by 30 per cent . Production of iphones will switch to India buy there's tariffs on Indian products of 20

per cent .

Experts and scientists are leaving American agencys . In the event of future disasters there could be more deaths as resources are cut from federal agencys

Tariffs are bad news for American business and consumers as they increase cost of goods and parts needed to make cars and trucks .

Consumers are cutting back on spending on luxury goods as they see a recession coming

Even when trump is gone there will still be negative effects as federal agencys will have lost highly trained staff who will take years to replace . The fall in the dollar value increases the we cost of all imports in the future

Old people are seeing their pension funds losing value Most working people have 401k pensions which invest in the stock market

thereiver

The income from irs is predicted to fall by 500 billion in tax revenue due to the laying off of tax officials who specialize in on evaluation of tax retutrns of rich eg the top 10per cent earners

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123405785#Comment_123405785

I will find difficult to believe a

ANY FIGURE that will emanate from the Whitehouse or any of the Federal Agencies going forward. IMO if Trump can ‘ find out ‘ who put out that -3% GDP figure he will present him/her with their ‘walking papers’

Field east

I am expecting this to happen. After all it will be ANOTHER TYPE OF A LIE - albeit a new type. Trump is not going to allow the printing of anything that will not be in his favour. One of the most recent examples of this is his QUESTIONING of the authors of his low popularity figure of 43% - worst of any president over the last 80years. Individuals in a position to put out unfavourable figures might think twice - UNLESS THEY ARE BRAvE ENOUGH TO GO AHEAD

everlast75

In today's edition of "there's always a tweet..."

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406945#Comment_123406945

Someone challenged him on that yesterday;

https://twitter.com/TheMaineWonk/status/1917639593928561036

"…grumblegrumblegrumble… Not my fault …grumblegrumblegrumble… the border …grumblegrumblegrumble… Inflation …grumblegrumblegrumble…in the history of our country …grumblegrumblegrumble…still not my fault …grumblegrumblegrumble…"

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406367#Comment_123406367

FYI on National Parks: https://www.npca.org/resources/3971-the-dismantling-of-our-national-parks-and-public-lands

FYI: If there is a major reduction of tourist-numbers visiting casinos and staying at hotels. there will be negative effects on the industry. Who do you imagine will be coming in to take up the jobs left vacant, even if the hotel owners would choose to hire when there's no work for the workers?

CFlat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406960#Comment_123406960

The rest of the Press need to grow a pair and start challenging him. He rambles worse the Abe Simpson...non sequitur abundant.

thereiver

We can look at examples in history tariffs slow down the economy and increase inflation and reduce international trade .America simply does not have the workers to make many products like iphones apple is simply moving production of American iphones to India

Trumps economic policys make no sense .

Meanwhile measles is spreading rapidly in America as rfk Jr refuses to promote a full vaccination program as he is a anti vax extremist

Penn

It was funny when Trump was taking questions yesterday, he basically said that with the tariffs and store shelves being emptier, instead of children having 30 dolls, maybe they'll just have two, and maybe those dolls will be a bit more expensive.

Economic genius running the capital of capitalism.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123407045#Comment_123407045

You could clearly see yesterday his eyes were looking downwards when he was blaming Biden for the economy- even he couldn’t look at his own hand chosen press corp to say those words - this is a good sign in my view- he knew damn well what he was saying was b0ll0x but he didn’t have the ability match his body language to the words coming out of his mouth.

I believe he’s worried, he’s agitated he’s demonstrating that he’s lost control of the economy - He can’t blame Biden for whatever Junes figures will show - although he might try- and God willing, they won’t be pretty either.

But yes- the press need to call him out - I think America is paralysed with the MAGA administration including the press- whilst they may implode, they can’t just sit and hope- they need to make it happen

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123407069#Comment_123407069

We're seeing what happens when you hand over the keys of a country to a bunch of right wing, 'anti-woke' populists with three word slogans - predictably it's a total car crash / clown show. They and their supporters are not serious people.

Economics101

Just to follow up on what I posted yesterday (#21413), I now see very specific reasons for concern that the attack on Truth threatens the integrity of US economic data:

https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/disbanded-us-advisory-committee-raises-concerns-about-economic-data-integrity

BailMeOut

Ryanair threatens to seek alternative to Boeing order if tariffs impact price

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ryanair-threatens-seek-alternative-boeing-085444223.html

EltonJohn69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123407085#Comment_123407085

how does no one there just fully snap and just interrupt his empty conspiracy monologues and just tell him firmly to his face that he is talking absolute bolloxs and that he is a full shitehawk and he has scutter for brains… all those journalists must be so frustrated.

Get Karl Pilkington into the White House.

https://youtu.be/1lRIQGU2RRk?si=Gzls4A9TDYk0Zzuq

For Forks Sake

We are living in a peculiar timeline

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123407155#Comment_123407155

Because none of them are there on merit and having him yell at clouds distracts the press from Project 2025.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123406152#Comment_123406152

I don't think he cares at all whether something is a truth or a lie.

His only criteria is whether or not he thinks it's useful to him or if he thinks it makes him look good.

Fact or Fiction is utterly irrelevant to him.

twinytwo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123407148#Comment_123407148

They can threaten all they want - there are no alternatives. Only 2 companies (in the west) make large commercial planes Boeing and Airbus. Airbus is currently at maximum production capacity. Ryanair could technically buy planes from Russian or Chinese companies but I cant see than happening for a multitude of reasons. Even moving to Airbus would cost a fortune.

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123407333#Comment_123407333

also Ryanair's business model has always been to limit the variety of planes in service - always buy large numbers of exactly the same plane. This allows standardisation of everything they need to fit them out as they're all exactly the same size and makes it significantly easier for service and maintenance as all engineers in all locations are working with exactly the same parts, simplify pilot and crew training etc etc. Look at any seatback in AerLingus and you'll see a diagram of about 10 different models they have in their fleet of all different sizes and configurations. There's a lot of overheads behind that which Ryanair doesn't have.

I'd imagine going to a Chinese manufacturer is significantly costlier for them than, say, an updated model of a Boeing plane they already have in their fleet.