Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Oscar_Madison

so, let’s just say, manufacturing of whatever, returned to the US- just how much more expensive would the end product be?

One of the key reasons manufacturing has departed ghettos shores of America is for lower costs .
Would be interesting to see say Pharma products vs computers vs cars etc what products would increase in price as a result of returning to American home ground

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355612#Comment_123355612

Don't know about pharma but there's been a good few estimates about iPhones ranging twice to triple what they cost now if made in the USA.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355636#Comment_123355636

Then you have the whole complication of tariffs - unless all parts of wherever good are made in America, there’s gonna be higher costs there straight away - leaving aside the recklessness of what Trump is doing, the end game is completely unworkable

randd1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355084#Comment_123355084

That would involve smarts.

Who needs that when you have Jesus and Trump?

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355504#Comment_123355504

Pushback is highly unlikely. The policy in Trump-sceptical congressional districts is just not to really mention him and try to create distance that way.

Besides, that'll be too late. Trump and co got busy with their agenda on day one and you still have his opponents going, 'Ohhhh, just wait until the midterms' as if there'll still be a democracy to protect by then. This is like starting a fire in your kitchen cooking breakfast and instead of calling the fire brigade, you say 'Nah, it'll rain at midday. That should sort it.'

People call Trump an idiot, but if he is, he's been more than facilitated by the extreme complacency which has met his every move.

odyssey06

Bit of a stretch to claim Viagra, Botox et al as essential to national security!

There's a list of essential medicines somewhere from the WHO, I'd be surprised if the US isn't producing any of those it needs already.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355641#Comment_123355641

The tariffs of parts might actually shutter the bit of production apple does do in the US making MacBooks.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355648#Comment_123355648

Bit of a stretch to claim Viagra, Botox et al as essential to national security!

Both of these are required for MAGA to breed offspring...

Will_I_Amnt

Just went thru US Homeland Security at Dublin airport. No queues whatsoever, anywhere. Sitting at the gate and the whole place is eerily quiet. I've travelled to the US many times, often on Monday mornings and I've never seen it quite like this, ever. It would usually be extremely hectic at the start of Easter holidays.

That says it all doesn't it.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355557#Comment_123355557

There is no "plan" whatsoever. Trump hasn't got a clue what he is doing, hence the constant flip flops and U-turns. That would be fine if he was playing it very safe, but someone who is clueless trying to turn the entire global economy on its head is clown show territory.

trashcan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355532#Comment_123355532

My comment has really gone “whoosh” for some people it seems. I was referring to Donnie very kindly explaining to us all what groceries are last week. It’s fantastic when he learns a new word and takes time out to explain it to the plebs (that’s sarcasm btw)

Will_I_Amnt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355478#Comment_123355478

His crypto coin launch the Friday before his Monday inauguration

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355724#Comment_123355724

For holiday goers, price (of ticket), exchange rate etc will be taken into account - if the dollar falls against euro to the degree that it becomes unbelievably cheap to fly to America and stay there, I think a lot of people will set aside their “concerns” and go.
It will be interesting to see if Aerlingus starts a “sale” and promotional campaign on America - if numbers are down, then prices will fall to try and attract passengers

poop emoji

https://extra.ie/2025/04/13/news/irish-news/dublin-airport-phones-checked

apparently 30% drop in travellers too and falling, assume people who had flights booked before the revolution

Notice how non anonymous Americans on forum like @Manic Moran suddenly disappeared

They now **** themself about posting anything publicly from the “land of the free”

Baba Yaga

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355522#Comment_123355522

seems donnie vonshitzinpants is the bestest golfer ever,wins the biggliest competitions….im guessing he was golfin over the weekend?

everytime i type "donnie vonshitzinpants" in reference to trump im waiting for one of those blacked out helicopters filled with special army type lads to come to whisk me away for a holiday to el salvador of guantanamo bay…

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355612#Comment_123355612

More expensive, and lower quality in the case of home-grown cars. Fords, GM, and Chrysler largely lost their mojo when their cars were widely perceived as crap buckets. I don't think anything's changed in that regard, just that the US manufacturers seem largely to build trucks & SUV's and have ceded the sedan/sports car market to the overseas manufacturers.

This isn't anything new, at least since the 1970's US cars began being regaled as junk (see: Ford Pinto). Toyotas were in the US prior to that and were perceived as lower quality, but by the late 1970's/80's that perception had flipped.

Just because it's build in the US, doesn't mean its good anymore. I won't get into US branded white goods (dishwashers, dryers,…) Also crap.

Peregrinus

It's not just us, and I wouldn't bank on exchange rates to address this. The dollar has already fallen by more than 10% against the euro but, despite the falling dollar, there has been a steep decline in European travel to the US in the months since Trump's inauguration. And I don't think the problem is steep airfares.

https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3lmmne3zsq22v

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355746#Comment_123355746

The issue isn't just how far your Euro will go in the States, or even your ticket fare. An impression has been created, through stories in the press and also offical Travel Advisories, that travel to the States could land you in a detention center for the smallest of clerical mistakes.

That might not nessisarily be the truth, but the impression exists, and combined with general negativity towards Donnie's America, I suspect that tourism to the States from most of the Western World might crash through the floor. There is an image problem that they'll seriously need to work on, or US Tourism will essentially be toast until at least the end of Donnie's term…and possibly even a bit longer.

looksee

It will be interesting to see if Trump makes the same mess of tariffs on China when he starts trying to sort pharmaceuticals as he made of tech products. Will he miss the fact that the little tablets in packets that he recognises as pharmaceuticals depend on Active Pharmaceutical Ingredients many of which come from China at some stage in their manufacture? The US does product a lot of these APIs but the complexity of the supply chain is going to become quickly evident when he starts messing with it. He could beat his Covid record of killing people if he gets it wrong.

Will_I_Amnt

🤣🤣

Absolutely nobody who's sane is gonna believe he wrote that!

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355824#Comment_123355824

Well, it does have the random sprinkling of capital letters that characterises much of what he writes. But in other respects it is not his style at all, and it displays a level of doctrinal awareness that, though very basic, he certainly would not possess.

looksee

'As we approach this Joyous Easter Sunday, I want to wish Christians everywhere, including all the horrible people who claim to be Christians but hate me and treat me unfairly…' etc

everlast75

Throwback to when Trump gave "I definitely read that book for our homework" but can't talk about it vibes when questioned about the bible....

https://youtu.be/ERUngQUCsyE?si=gNsW9NV0r-D5Nt0x

Dohnjoe

I've noticed there's barely a Trump supporter in this thread or any thread any more. Normally there are a handful of contrarians but even they appear unable to support his actions. I did a quick Boards poll before the election and he had around 20% support on this site. So they are out there. Albeit completely at a loss.

Damien360

imagine Simon Harris or Michael Martin or at EU level someone spouting that nonsense. They would be laughed out of the room. I don’t know the US demographics for religion but it seems strange for a president to only talk of Christians. I’m guessing he didn’t say much during the Muslim festival (name escapes me). Yes it’s Easter but even we don’t spout that level of silliness in Ireland since the 70’s, maybe 80’s.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355900#Comment_123355900

They're lurking. One of them was in here over the weekend.

I often think of this poster and how they were so quick to act in the hours after Trump's victory but won't defend the conviction of their viewpoint through posting regularly.

I'm sure whoever they are on their regular account, they drop in here to have a look before running away again.

Of course, posters can post as they wish, and no one is obliged to post here at any sort of frequency but it is telling, the silence from his defenders.

Like with the Brexiteers in the UK, they're being less and less vocal on what they advocated for when the reality is revealed.

The kicker with Trump is that it had been obvious after his first term what he brought to the table and yet they still advocated for him.

He's had more "Oh F*ck" moments within the first 3 months of his admin that Biden had in 4 years!.

The embarrassing treatment of Zelensky in the Oval office, Signal chat fiasco, not receiving bodies of dead servicemen, the tariffs debacle. All things that surpassed Biden's achievements in terms of making Trump's supporters cringe.

Edit Note: Things are so bad in the Trump admin, that I forgot to mention the most shameful treatment of leader of a supposed ally in the Oval office that we have ever seen. That's how much a sh!tshow all this is!

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355900#Comment_123355900

The typical "centrist" position on Donnie is a little harder to maintain when the crass stupidity of MAGAworld is so naked to the world, for them to maintain their position.

Although Donnie's election has brought so many bad things (with more to come) the one little positive of him winning is that all the theories of Trump or the GOP being good at anything evaporated the instant the light of reality shone upon them.

Defending all of this is considerably more work than I suspect most "Centrists" are willing to put in. Thus silence.

As I have stated earlier for the sake of anyone still pro-Donnie. The rest of us remember what he says, and we will continue to apply reality to what he will say. It would have been better off for posters with that mindset if Donnie had not won. Then they could have spent the next 4 years opineing about how Donnie would have done things better than "K.Harris". But now it's him in the Oval Office…and now you can't do that. It's less fun, isn't it?

yagan

Trump has fans because he's normalized unacceptable behaviour, but they're quiet now because they're learning that unrespectable childish behaviour has financial real world consequences.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355900#Comment_123355900

Depends how you worded the poll I guess - there’s a big difference between someone who “thought” Trump would win, and someone who “wanted” Trump to win - towards the end I “thought” trump would win - that doesn’t necessarily mean I “wanted” him to win - albeit it was interpreted by many at the time as an endorsement of Trump which was just idiotic reasoning

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123356098#Comment_123356098

That was the great fallacy in my view. Posters telling us he was hugely popular, but still not being willing to own their support for him. That in itself should have been telling something they refused to listen to. Why, if he was as capable that they claimed "others" saw him to be did so few of them say they agreed with that assessment.